The location of the 40 renown item is absolutely perfect, tied intimately as it is to the Urchins. If you’re not at the endgame, you shouldn’t be anywhere near 40 renown. If you’re at the proper endgame (stats nearing 200 etc), you’ve unlocked Stormy-eyed already. If you’ve unlocked stormy eyed, getting it to 19 at Mutton Island is fairly trivial.
Agreed, I think the spot it’s in seems perfect. I’m not sure the highest tier items are supposed to be super easy to find, and should required you knowing the factions well enough to make an educated guess as to where they are which makes sense from a lore standpoint. And there is a forum and a wiki for people who do get stuck trying to find them.
[quote=loredeluxe]Sorry about the false information:(. I finally hit the lucky result after 4 times through the carousel, and did get a favor. The text for the Urchin’s final exam didn’t mention it, but it does in fact give a favor. RIght now this is the best and quickest way to grind favors, since it also refreshes the opportunity deck which gives a chance for more favor cards.
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How many actions for each go of the carousel?
While I agree that it’s fitting, if you’ve been to the Mind before, raising your What the Thunder Said back up after that assuredly isn’t quick or grindable, and totally relies on cards. (In my position, it’s trivial to reach 19 Stormy-Eyed, but What the Thunder Said is at 3.) In this position, for anyone who’s already been and as a result of this hasn’t been focussing on re-raising WtTS, it’s still very tough and time-consuming, almost as time-consuming as raising the Renown itself.
I still think it’s a great place for the item to go - it’s just not necessarily as easy, even for endgame players, as those who already qualify or are close to qualifying may make out.
Despite having 50 renown, I imagine it’ll take me quite a while to get the 40 renown item. My stormy eyed is at 7 and my thunder dreams are at 20 (I wanted to stop drawing dream cards, see). Lots of time at Mutton Island is ahead for me, though I think I’ll do it after I’m done grinding connections, since I don’t want to spend so much time away from london while I still have time pressing things to do.
I’m nowhere near having enough renown, though I’ve long been at endgame level… and have never been to the mind of a dead god. I think I’m just resigned to the renown stuff being utterly ridiculous now.
On the bright side, I mostly only want companions for my collection, so it won’t matter unless it’s a companion.
I love the fact that there is challenging end game content to grind for. I don’t think the requirements are too high at all. I’ve had very little to do in the game besides hoarding resources so this new content is welcome.
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[quote=IgnatuStone]I love the fact that there is challenging end game content to grind for. I don’t think the requirements are too high at all. I’ve had very little to do in the game besides hoarding resources so this new content is welcome.
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The problem is that I don’t equate challenge with an extensive grind. The only thing it challenges is my attention span and my patience. As a result, I don’t look for challenge in a browser game.
There’s a new option on What will you do with your Grubby Kitten to get a Favour: Urchins!
Not sure it’s worth more than the tales of terror if you’re goated enough to auto-pass the Dreaded check, but it’s a cute new option at least.
I’m currently stuck in jail, so can’t check - what does the change to Renown mean for Orphanage owners? Has the Connected: 20 option to boost your Orphanage been replaced with a favour option yet?
[quote=MidnightVoyager][quote=IgnatuStone]I love the fact that there is challenging end game content to grind for. I don’t think the requirements are too high at all. I’ve had very little to do in the game besides hoarding resources so this new content is welcome.
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The problem is that I don’t equate challenge with an extensive grind. The only thing it challenges is my attention span and my patience. As a result, I don’t look for challenge in a browser game.[/quote]
This is also going to be a lot of grind once it’s converted over, maybe there should be an easier way to get to 20 or something, since that’s usually where storylets stop unlocking… (And the amount of renown you have lags behind where you are in the game. Early players who want the first item can’t buy the bazaar item to get renown, so that delay makes many of them obsolete by the time you can get them)
Has anyone discovered what the quirk effects of the third renown conversion action are yet?
[quote=Frenzgyn](A lot of stuff I mostly agree with, sort of.)
[…] With the exception of the bellringer, there aren’t any interactions, unlocking or whatever. Just a completionist obsession.
Why? Why so harsh? […][/quote]Because of that, I’d assume. Because it [b]is[/b] just a completionist’s obsession.
[quote=Frenzgyn]I think this is getting out of hand.[/quote]Hmm. I’ll make up my mind on that when I will have seen where and how exactly they will have hidden the Tier 3 Hell Renown Item in the Iron Republic. :D
Also, this at least gives a reason to (re)visit that stormy place. It’s not like there’s much else to see there, really.
It’s great flavor-wise, yes. But mechanically? I don’t agree.
- "If you’re not at the endgame, you shouldn’t be anywhere near 40 renown." Says who? Why "shouldn’t" a new PoSI for example have Renown 40? A dedicated midgame player could get C: Urchins to 301 before the conversion.[/li][li]"If you’re at the proper endgame (stats nearing 200 etc), you’ve unlocked Stormy-eyed already." Again, says who? What’s the "proper endgame"? There’s no stat threshold granting Stormy-Eyed or What the Thunder Said. There’s no guarantee of drawing enough dream cards, especially as not everyone trims their decks.[/li][li]"If you’ve unlocked stormy eyed, getting it to 19 at Mutton Island is fairly trivial." It’s mechanically trivial, assuming players already have their ships. But there’s no in-game indication that option is special, or that anything happens with Stormy-Eyed 19, or that there’s a reason to grind WtTS up again.
The thing is that the Mind of a Lond-Dead God isn’t just a hard to find location. For most (all) practical purposes this location is an Easter Egg.
Remember that we forum participants are a tiny percentage of the total player base. How is an average player (who doesn’t read the forum) even supposed to even know this place exists? There are no hints to it in the game. There’s never any indication that raising Stormy-Eyed might lead to something.
So using this location for a Renown item isn’t simply making it a difficult challenge - it’s also hiding it from the vast majority of players.
I guess I never looked at it as an Easter egg, but rather, the end result of getting your stormy-eyed up to a certain level. Unless you specifically decide you don’t want to grind that particular quality, I assumed you’d probably end up there and become aware of its existence eventually.
No other dream has an end state or any kind. There’s really very little reason to grind any of it other than raising numbers, so I can easily see how most people would miss this entirely.
Well, not that I’m not excited about the eventual Devils and Constables rework; but is there any word on the Great Game or the Church getting the treatment as well?
not that I have a great amount of Urchins renown, but I’m almost at the end game (story-wise I’ve been at it for a while, but my stats aren’t all at 200 yet), and I still don’t have stormy eyed. I’ve had WTTS 18 for quite a while, and the card never showed up.
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For some reason my connected didn’t convert…until just now, when I went to make this post.
Anyway, my two cents is that Mind of a Dead God may be obscure, but it’s still more fair than putting it in a fate-locked location.