Right, I see what the issue is.
Still it’s a bit weird having to get the book to get the book.
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You mean you have to pack at a tier that includes postage, in order to add the deluxe book on? Yeah.
Also, update:
The Sullier of Probabilities will not be made available on another tier, or as an add-on.
This reward was designed as a thank you to the highest backers. Something essentially priceless, where the realistic cost to maintain economic parity with other rewards (real-world or Fallen London economy) would be more than we would reasonably want to charge for it on its own.
By itself it’s a weapon which gives +1 Artisan of the Red Science (equal best in slot with existing items). The meat of its rewards are designed so that all of the benefits propagate from player to player, without having to return to the original owners to keep the supply going. We expected there to be very few original owners, but that won’t stop the joy spreading far and wide.
I hope you’ll still enjoy the free Acquisitive Magpie (available to everyone, regardless of whether you back the Kickstarter) and Benthic Kriegsspiel (available to all backers). I’m sorry to disappoint everyone who asked to be able to buy it on its own, and I hope you nonetheless enjoy making and spreading Boons yourselves once the Sulliers are released into the world.
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What sort of expansions or additional options for the game itself will probably be in stretch goals?
eta: like, is it likely to be more character options, expanded equipment, more detailed information on playing in different parts of the setting?
I’m afraid they’re under wraps so we can reveal them during the campaign, but you’re along the right lines with the types of thing to expect. :)
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Another piece of feedback from me:
I would appreciate having a bit more details about both set of dice. I realise it’s far from the focus of the campaign, but it is also the least straightforward physical item (since we know how books usually look, even more so with the quickstart being available).
Of course that is purely my dice hoarding gremlin bias talking.
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We only have placeholder art for the d6es but I think it’ll be updated at least once more before the campaign starts, and we’ve added a bigger image of the neathbow dice but we don’t have official video of them being rolled or anything yet. :D I can’t wait to get my hands on them!!
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Ah that’s very fair! I was very curious about both, because on the one hand the d6s sound like they’re “normal” so I was wondering about the engravings.
The enlarged picture of the neathbow ones is a major plus, but a video would be ideal. I’m guessing though that for now they’re just prototypes so there’s nothing to actually roll or anything?
Additional (and probably last thought) about dice, but would it be possible to introduce the company making them (FanRoll) a bit? If only so people can check out what other dice they’ve made to get an idea of the neathbow ones.
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I do hope the game will include options for… higher level play doesn’t sound quite right. Stories and character options that are more heavily involved with the deeper-lore, more esoteric parts of the setting, with the skillsets to match. It’d be great to have someone who really is a Crimson Engineer or an Oneirotect, with skills to match and still facing real challenges, or to take a character who starts small and grows into that.
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Will there be any sort of digital exclusives as stretch goals that backing at the highest level would not automatically get you?
The reward tiers are explicit about including stretch goals. Some include only digital, the top tier includes all stretch goals.
All of the tiers include all of the digital stretch goals, Midnighter and up include all of the physical ones.
In terms of in-depth play, I think if you want to get really esoteric that’ll be a matter for your table! We’re going to include lots of juice but there are 4.5 million words in Fallen London and we won’t be able to put all of that in a book. :D
Ok, so, to be more specific, will there be mechanical support or options in the book for characters who are very proficient in the Correspondence or the Shapeling Arts or Glasswork, or will those need to be homebrewed by players? I’d like to know how much extra work on part of the GM would be involved for making a Concern with a duelist, an artificer, a society lady, and a street urchin vs with a crimson engineer, a fractionist, a heirarch of the hunt, and an oneirotect. To me, the draw for a Fallen London rpg is being able to play with the stranger abilities and parts of the setting that are only in FL - if the rulebook expects me to always be playing someone who’s at roughly ‘normal human’ abilities with one or two weird and costly tricks, then I could get the same experience with a refluffed Blades in the Dark or Monster of the Week. But recreating the Shapeling Arts or some of the things my Teratomancer PC can do in another game is pretty hard, so I’m hopeful a Fallen London RPG can support that.
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I guess the best steer I can give at this stage, given that the majority of the book text is yet to be written and finalised, is that it will be as specific to Fallen London as possible without straining the bounds of what we can achieve in printed form. We want to include specific professions and whatnot, otherwise as you say, why this book?
Anyone who wants to up their hype level by at least 37% should have a look at the campaign video, which is now up on the preview page. Less than a day to go!
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I see there’s a new add-on to upgrade the corebook to its deluxe version. Thanks a lot!
And there’s also a better look at the d6s! \o/
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The Sullier of Probabilities will not be made available on another tier, or as an add-on.
I would argue that you should consider offering more than one digital tier.
Many players these days use virtual desktop solutions exclusively, and physical books and materials not only pose environmental challenges but are also inaccessible to some of us (like me, a disabled vision-impaired woman).
PLUS - You don’t offer shipment to some parts of the world at all (e.g. Middle-East) which also locks us poor fans out of pledging high…
Yet I would like to support financially through a high tier (and get the Sullier…)
Any chance you might reconsider?
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It’s passed 200k, so we’re currently out of stretch goals. Anyone have guesses for what the next might be?
New Stretch Goal: Iconic NPC: Sinning Jenn and Character Sheet Upgrade! I am still baffled that it didn’t lost its momentum! And the USA just got online!
Various parts of Europe getting off work/getting home will do that when it’s a very western Europe-focused project.
I know FBG shared their numbers some time and a lot of players are from the USA. Other data included the fact that ~30% of the players are PoSI and 20-25% own a ship.
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Plenty of people will probably back once they’re home from work, rather than first thing in the morning.