Estival 2025 Discussion Thread: Hell is Missing

.. I actually got it to 8 right now .. is it maybe connected to nightmares, because I raised mine over 5 on the first (failed) attempt & since then nothing happened?!

edit: wrong idea. but it is possible to go higher that 7 nevertheless.

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I didn’t do that and I don’t see anything there now either.

Oh that did work, yay. I took a break and a nap and finding only one thing in " The Book of All Hours: Cydnidae" was a bit of a shock!

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Only a few hours before the Candied Door opens!

Yeah, I just wish it was signposted a little better.

I can’t ever get it above five. Is this still the mercy of the RNG? Because if so I’m inclined to ignore it.

“Marked by Kindness has not changed from 1 because it’s higher than 0.”

I got this EARLY on with no idea it would apparently lock me out of the erratum?

I’m sooo behind //cries

Aaand there go the menaces so I have to spend actions getting those back down to a reasonable level again.

No, I don’t think it’s locked you out of anything. I assume it must be the RNG, or maybe there’s some other factor to it we haven’t figured out yet. maybe give it a rest for a little bit and try again later?

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I bet the candy door has elephants. That’s what I’m guessing. Elephants. On a string.

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Repeat after me:
I won’t miss out.
My fear is not real.
It has no power over me.
I set my own pace.
I am a strong confident woman.
I don’t need to smoke.

And you might want to send Calia de Lirpe a calling card, she loves to help with menaces. Unless you have someone helping you anyways.

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Aww, thanks. //deep healing breaths //takes suggestion

SUCH a good idea. “I must not FOMO. FOMO is the mind-killer…”

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If The Kings’ Song is really just ruled by RNG and nothing else, I’m probably going to ignore it from now on.
I didn’t want to believe it since usually during Estival everything is a riddle that can be solved by players. It’s unusual for something to just be completely random AND come with a massive menace hit to boot. If that’s what it is, it’s a waste of time and I’ll rather go back forging Laws. Really liking the payout there, so nice to be able to stockpile Whirring Contraptions for my newspaper!

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I’ve got my new crew, time to hit the Brass Embassy a bit just for the sake of it.

But honestly yeah, hunting laws looks to have the more interesting payout for now.

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There is a relatively new and pretty effective source of Contraptions in Burgundy.

Is King’s Song useful for anything?

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It is now! We’ve reached a new scene in the Time progress. One option requires King’s Song 7.

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I have completely different options that don’t sound like aiding the Bishop, so there must be some sort of quality tie in. I have “Raise practical concerns” and “Try to crush the man’s hope”. Maybe I’m closer allies to Hell than I realized.

Edit: Nevermind, it keeps going.

It was always there ; )

Kinda useful I would say. Since it requires KS 7, I think you can play it only once for 6 echoes and a small nightmare reduction. Then you have to gamble for reaching KS 7 again.

It’s not useful, you have to spend a ton of actions and constantly fight Nightmares to get it back to 7. And there are currently way better things to do in terms of EPA. (e.g. Furnace in the basement)

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