Ah yes, that’s a 20% hike. That’s probably it then.
Knew I had seen it somewhere. I don’t know if your bank’s foreign currency transaction fees would be more harsh? They probably are, they tend to be steep, but it could be worth having a look at? Especially if you have a good exchange rate between another currency and Sterling?
Nota Bene et Caveat Emptor - my Latin is better than my Economics and Maths by a long way :)
Thanks. :)
[li]Sorry if this is a bit of a repeat of what’s already been said, but I’m trying to parse through all the details and what makes sense in terms of strategy. I’m a newly-Goated POSI with SotC 10, and this is my first Sacksmas. I have all the four card lodgings and a remote address, so I think I’m aiming for one or more five card lodgings as my goal.
[li]I currently have three buckets of snow, a Semiotic Monocle, two Tears of the Bazaar, some Storm Threnodies and four Last Hopes waiting to be turned into Night Whispers if need be… so I think I’m pretty well if not ideally kitted out for getting a lodging or two.
[li]My questions relate to the mechanics, which I know have been touched on up thread:
[li]1. Specifically, I’ve seen on I’m a Candle that I should be getting Taste of Lacre up to 8 before Mr. Sacks shows up - why is that? What would I be missing out on by not looking at/dunking/otherwise interacting with my pails before then?
[li]2. I’ve seen a strategy up thread that suggests waiting and getting a first TOL from Mr. Sacks then using pails to get the first five card lodging. Is this a better strategy than doing #1? Any risk to going this route?
[li]3. I’d like the Bazaar lodging and one other (would love all three but doubt I can swing it this year). Is that feasible and how many buckets will I likely need to buy (and when do I buy them)? I have no soul.
[li]4. Anything else I should be aiming for? I’ve seen reference to getting your TOL up really high through Tears, Dreadful Surmises and the like - does that have any benefits or it just cool to do?
[li]Thanks in advance for any tips as I try to unravel the mechanics without wasting all this tasty lacre. Feel free to PM rather than cluttering the thread if these are really basic questions. Appreciate it
edited by Kilrathi on 12/18/2015
[quote=Kilrathi][li]Sorry if this is a bit of a repeat of what’s already been said, but I’m trying to parse through all the details and what makes sense in terms of strategy. I’m a newly-Goated POSI with SotC 10, and this is my first Sacksmas. I have all the four card lodgings and a remote address, so I think I’m aiming for one or more five card lodgings as my goal.
[/li][li]I currently have three buckets of snow, a Semiotic Monocle, two Tears of the Bazaar, some Storm Threnodies and four Last Hopes waiting to be turned into Night Whispers if need be… so I think I’m pretty well if not ideally kitted out for getting a lodging or two.
[/li][li]My questions relate to the mechanics, which I know have been touched on up thread:
[/li][li]1. Specifically, I’ve seen on I’m a Candle that I should be getting Taste of Lacre up to 8 before Mr. Sacks shows up - why is that? What would I be missing out on by not looking at/dunking/otherwise interacting with my pails before then?
[/li][li]2. I’ve seen a strategy up thread that suggests waiting and getting a first TOL from Mr. Sacks then using pails to get the first five card lodging. Is this a better strategy than doing #1? Any risk to going this route?
[/li][li]3. I’d like the Bazaar lodging and one other (would love all three but doubt I can swing it this year). Is that feasible and how many buckets will I likely need to buy (and when do I buy them)? I have no soul.
[/li][li]4. Anything else I should be aiming for? I’ve seen reference to getting your TOL up really high through Tears, Dreadful Surmises and the like - does that have any benefits or it just cool to do?
[/li][li]Thanks in advance for any tips as I try to unravel the mechanics without wasting all this tasty lacre. Feel free to PM rather than cluttering the thread if these are really basic questions. Appreciate it
edited by Kilrathi on 12/18/2015[/quote]
To get the bazaar you need 2 buckets and 3 point ToL from sacks, or 4 buckets and 1 point. Personally, I’d go up to 6 ToL, then use sacks. (i have a dreadful surmise, which means i don’t need to do the easy-but-caps-at-5 dip a soul in it instead, but if you don’t think you can prepare well enough to get the ToL, that’s fine, use the dip a soul in it.)
I’m going to assume that you read the list of how to get ToL from sacks- and that getting 3 points isn’t that hard for you, so you need 2 pails. Then you’d need 3 for the brass embassy and 2 with a single extra point ToL from sacks for the royal bethlehem. (which can be substituted with 3 pails)
So you’d need to get 4 buckets and 4 points ToL from sacks (viable for free, though if you’re not doctor/notary, it’d require taking advantage of the melting mr. sacks, which also gives a bonus bucket.), or 5 buckets and 3 points ToL from sacks- viable for free with mr. eaten’s sacks, i believe.
either way, you’ll need to pay to get another ? buckets- depending on what else you do- to get the last lodgings. i believe the most free buckets you can get is 6, and you’d need all of them to get 3 lodgings, as well as being a doctor/notary.
don’t forget that you can, once you open the wicket gate (passing through requires ToL but doesn’t consume it), use a 1-lacre consuming option to go from 6 to 5, then use another bucket to go from 5 to 8.
edited by Grenem on 12/18/2015
[quote=Kilrathi][li]Sorry if this is a bit of a repeat of what’s already been said, but I’m trying to parse through all the details and what makes sense in terms of strategy. I’m a newly-Goated POSI with SotC 10, and this is my first Sacksmas. I have all the four card lodgings and a remote address, so I think I’m aiming for one or more five card lodgings as my goal.
[/li][li]I currently have three buckets of snow, a Semiotic Monocle, two Tears of the Bazaar, some Storm Threnodies and four Last Hopes waiting to be turned into Night Whispers if need be… so I think I’m pretty well if not ideally kitted out for getting a lodging or two.
[/li][li]My questions relate to the mechanics, which I know have been touched on up thread:
[/li][li]1. Specifically, I’ve seen on I’m a Candle that I should be getting Taste of Lacre up to 8 before Mr. Sacks shows up - why is that? What would I be missing out on by not looking at/dunking/otherwise interacting with my pails before then?
[/li][li]2. I’ve seen a strategy up thread that suggests waiting and getting a first TOL from Mr. Sacks then using pails to get the first five card lodging. Is this a better strategy than doing #1? Any risk to going this route?
[/li][li]3. I’d like the Bazaar lodging and one other (would love all three but doubt I can swing it this year). Is that feasible and how many buckets will I likely need to buy (and when do I buy them)? I have no soul.
[/li][li]4. Anything else I should be aiming for? I’ve seen reference to getting your TOL up really high through Tears, Dreadful Surmises and the like - does that have any benefits or it just cool to do?
[/li][li]Thanks in advance for any tips as I try to unravel the mechanics without wasting all this tasty lacre. Feel free to PM rather than cluttering the thread if these are really basic questions. Appreciate it
edited by Kilrathi on 12/18/2015[/quote]
Sigh. Sometimes the forum tries to fox me, but now that I’ve typed and lost this three times I’m determined to see it through. You shall not defeat me, evil backspace!
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Gains from Mr Sacks cards are uncapped. Without a dread surmise (difficult to obtain, risks wasting your pails for no gain) or tears of the bazaar (expensive and frankly a waste to use here) you cannot raise taste above 8 without using Mr Sacks, and you need 9 for the Spire Emporium.
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That’s just a way of saving on pails. Giving snow to the first Sacks means you miss out on some connected:masters but otherwise there’s no risks as such.
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Follow this plan: Either raise your taste to 8 (needs 3 pails) and gain one point from Sacks or raise your taste to 6 (needs 2 pails) and gain 3 points from Sacks. Once the Wicket opens, purchase the Emporium. For the Royal beth or the Brass Sanctum, use two buckets to reach six, then descend to the wicket and search the shore or take the air(leaving you with 5 taste). Use a third bucket to reach eight and purchase. So, you will need 2-3 pails for your first lodging and three for each subsequent one. Buy the buckets from the urchins as soon as possible - you can always use favourable circumstances to force draw the card. You may need fewer buckets depending on how many points of taste you are able to get from Sacks (or if you are taking the fate route).
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Aside from fun, the only reason to raise your taste above 9 is to create an expensive noman in the hopes of keeping it alive until February. This requires months of preparation. However, you may want to buy a noman anyway (the first few days it will be at its lowest price) as it provides a wonderful story and, with proper care, an elemental secret. You may also want a remote address (cost 3 taste each) or to buy a longbox (6 taste - no current use). If you have 7 taste you can buy tears of the bazaar in the Nadir, but this is really only useful if you’ve already got everything else youw ant and are swimming in excess taste.
The soothe and cooper long-box does have a use though. If you go to Wolf Stack docks, there’s a story called Aspiring Zee-Captains where you can sell the long-box in exchange for a storynexus metaquality that carries over to sunless sea if you own that game and link your accounts. The quality lets your sunless sea captains always start with one free soothe and cooper long-box which is nice.
Oh, yes, sorry - it’s been a while, and I forgot about the crossover. I think I must have tried to blot those particular longboxes from my mind (so. much. camping.)
Noooo ! The advent calendar has raised my ToL to 6, and now I can’t use the Semiotic Monocle anymore… Damn it !
How can I raise it to 9, now ? Do I have to buy more pails from the Urchins and each time dip a soul in it (is that even still possible ?) ? Or will I get enough Lacre from the 12 days of Sacks ?
Damn, I used to love the Advent Calendar, but that was really ungentlemanly.
You can’t raise your taste further by dipping souls. The best way for you to reach nine now is by using the Mr Sacks cards - if you pick the right options, you will easily reach 9. If you’re really stuck for taste, the only other ways to raise it now would be feeding a pail to a wild boar (needs high dangerous and a dread surmise, risks wasting the pail but you won’t lose the surmise), or huffing tears of the bazaar (expensive). But Mr Sacks will get you there with no bother.
edited by Màiread on 12/19/2015
I have a Surmise, I guess I’ll just do that next time I get the pails. Okay, I’ll be careful about what I choose during the days of Mr Sacks, thanks.
No, don’t…
Monocle trades 1 pail for 3 ToL. Surmise only 1 for 1.
Achieve ToL with Mr. Sacks cards - another 4 or 5 ToL. That will get you as high as you need for any prize (if nothing new added).
Then, after acquire a prize (lets say, 5 card lodging Bazaar) you will be reduced under 6 ToL again and can use your pails more wisely (exchanging 1 pail for 3 ToL).
Unless you have those prizes and only wish to achieve high ToL for the Tears of Bazaar.
That, also, you can do - when reaching 7+ ToL with Mr. Sacks cards enter the nadir many times as possible (several weeks until the date of melting pails) and draw the Tears’ card. purchase it and be reduced to under 6 ToL. Use monocle for a better ratio and repeat.
Addition:
Even if you reach 6 ToL the next time, and no source for free ToL (lets say, Mr. Sacks is over) it is better to reduce 1 ToL at the wicket for a nice prize and use monocle to reach 8 ToL than to use Surmise and reach 7 ToL
edited by Gonen on 12/19/2015
Oh, ok, thanks for the tips ! And the Wicket stays open until the end of January ?
Hmm. I have all the 5-card lodgings, and don’t wish to return to the Nadir really (because I boosted stats over 200); is there anything useful for me to do with this ‘snow’? :)
If you play Sunless Sea a Soothe and Copper long-box might be a good use for it?
-And you could collect some remote addresses also, if you don’t have them all already?
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/19/2015
Hold onto it? Each pail will sell to de gustibus for 50 echoes. i forgot about this earlier. i believe if they melt, because you missed de gustibus, it’ll turn into direful reflections (vendor trash worth 12.5 echoes) instead.
My turn to ask a question- does anyone know when the holiday urchin cards stop manifesting?
If you play Sunless Sea a Soothe and Copper long-box might be a good use for it?
-And you could collect some remote addresses also, if you don’t have them all already?
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/19/2015[/quote]
I believe that works on sunless sea only once.
Yea, collect all out of city lodgings. or sacrifice your 200+ stats for Tears of Bazaar at the Nadir and rebuild it the next month and a half (that’s what I guess it takes to reach 15 notability). Could be worth those 2-3 Tears. And do you have something better to do with your notability?
Edit: Ah, Grenem suggested 50 echo per Pile. Did not know that option existed.
edited by Gonen on 12/19/2015
If you play Sunless Sea a Soothe and Copper long-box might be a good use for it?
-And you could collect some remote addresses also, if you don’t have them all already?
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 12/19/2015[/quote]
I believe that works on sunless sea only once.
Yea, collect all out of city lodgings. or sacrifice your 200+ stats for Tears of Bazaar at the Nadir and rebuild it the next month and a half (that’s what I guess it takes to reach 15 notability). Could be worth those 2-3 Tears. And do you have something better to do with your notability?
Edit: Ah, Grenem suggested 50 echo per Pile. Did not know that option existed.
edited by Gonen on 12/19/2015[/quote]
Only at De gustibus. They usually do show up before lacre melts, though. you could also do the more ineffective option of using the monocle to reach 6, then spending them all on the 1-ToL actions, which return between .5 and 62.5 echoes worth of items. If they returned the right ones, that’d be what i’d be doing with any extra Pails, but they don’t
Again, does anyone know when the urchins stop appearing? I need another dozen pails to get my desired levels of ToL.
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Again, does anyone know when the urchins stop appearing? I need another dozen pails to get my desired levels of ToL.[/quote]
Another dozen???
How many ToL do you need? Doesn’t it cap at 15 with Surmise? Or do you intend to buy the whole real estate in the Neath?
i wish the urchins would appear a bit more - seems like when i didn’t need them they popped up all the time, and i’ve only seen them once since the start of sackmas…
can someone tell me how to get past 6 ToL, because that’s where i seem stuck - do i need to go down a level (and if so, how) to be able to go from 5-8 with the monocle? or is there a way to just shoot right up from 6? i do have a dread surmise, so i could try that, and as a correspondent i have the option to write a monograph on the blasted stuff - that also only has a 40% success chance though. suggestions?