The option’s the same for all top-tier professions.
Thank you Elderfleur! That clarifies the math and confirms my initial suspicion. Not terrible, but not a good profit-making scheme even against basic grinds like the Sunken Embassy/Rat Market sales of Parabolan Parables.
Unfortunately, I do not support the destruction of all causality and reason in the universe, so can’t take that option. Oh well! I’ll just discard moving forward unless I have a bunch of random glim.
Not true. I was a Silverer and the option to raise Master of the Bazaar isn’t available. I checked the wiki.
Anyway I’ve resigned from my profession, and everything’s fine.
That’s because you didn’t have a top-tier profession after you resigned. The option for Silverer is not different from any other top-tier profession.
I’m not sure of the math vs. The glim option, but "Society" is one of the favors that can be converted to tribute, so "Defuse a Society feud" is excellent and has no cost. You should definitely play that instead of discarding it.
[quote=PJ]I’m not sure of the math vs. The glim option, but "Society" is one of the favors that can be converted to tribute, so "Defuse a Society feud" is excellent and has no cost. You should definitely play that instead of discarding it.[/quote] An action that awards a Tribute-ready favour can be valued at 6.25 EPA*, so with the 2 Secluded Addresses you’re up to ~7.25 EPA which is slightly less exciting than the Revolutionaries, but definitely better than Glim-Wine.
*5 acts to collect favours, 1 to turn into tribute, 4 to cash out for a 62.5 item; amortizing two 6-action zee trips across a maximal 13 turn-ins brings the actual value down to ~5.72 EPA, although if one’s already zailing to, say, Khan’s Heart it becomes a bit ambiguous.
Add another action to turn the Night Whisper into 85e worth of Rat Shillings and the Society option goes up to about 8 EPA. Which, mind-blowingly, still isn’t as good as the Revolutionary option.
[quote=PJ]Add another action to turn the Night Whisper into 85e worth of Rat Shillings and the Society option goes up to about 8 EPA. Which, mind-blowingly, still isn’t as good as the Revolutionary option.[/quote] The limiting factor in all this is just drawing the Standard-Frequency Card, I think. RNG may be fickle, but anecdotally despite my fairly attentive Card Drawing these past few days I’ve only seen it twice. Which, given its ludicrous lucrativity seems perfectly fair.
grumblegrumblebloodyRNG got lots of glim but no sodding card. Does it appear outside London? I’m considering soothing my grumps with a boat ride at Jericho.
I assume you can only draw it in London, I’ve been spending lots of time in the hinterlands and I never drew it there, I did draw it three times in London though
It seems the devils storyline actually does pay out a second time.
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This is what I did:
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Soothe & Cooper Long-Box.
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Semiotic Monocle to raise Scholar of the Correspondence a bit.
I now have 5 Taste of Lacre.
Should I get the Noman, or one of the other weird lodgings?
Last year, I got a Dripstone-Snared Temple, it lasted me for quite a bit before I got the 4-card lodgings. No Vice cards in my deck is very helpful.
I’ve drawn the Calendrical Card a third time and it’s worth noting that either the Revolutionary range is wider than previously recorded, or has regrettably (but justifiably) been lowered. I just got 15 Scraps of Gossip, which is still wild but at least brings the Society option into a competitive place.
Also, to get more Christmasy (this New Years stuff is only kinda Christmasy in that its planning, cancellation, and conclusion all overlapped Christmastime), the new Bohemian investigation concludes with +1 taste of lacre, a bucket of lacre, an Aeolian Scream, and a new +9 Persuasive/+3 Respectable Companion. Might have utility in a fixed-equipment zone somewhere, but otherwise just a memento for a late-game player, probably.
The extra lodgings are really only for bragging rights, since they don’t confer any extra advantage once you have avoided the city vices cards.
To play the Noman really requires a seriously large stash to keep it alive. People save from year to year to maintain it until the Feast of the Exceptional Rose. Last year is the first since I arrived here that I remember someone managing it.
You don’t need to keep the Noman alive until the feast. There’s the regular storyline, just with his opportunity card. I think that’s definitely worth playing. Most efficient would be to make one as soon as possible after your next Time, the Healer.
Thanks for the advice, but I’ll skip Noman for this year. When I’m more settled I’ll try and keep Noman alive till the Feast, maybe aim to get that silly tattoo.
Currently I have too many other in-game distractions.
Incidentally, Time the Healer happens for me tomorrow. What I’m not sure is whether the price of Noman will increase to more than 5 tomorrow or the day after. Noman would have cost me 4 Lacres today.
This isn’t quite as rare a feat as you’re making it out to be. Multiple people do it each year and it’s quite manageable if you’ve done advance preparations. I’ve kept Nomans alive until FotER (and thus gotten the Gant tattoo) on two separate accounts, six years in a row, each.
edited by hwoosh on 1/5/2022
As hwoosh said, it eminently possible to keep the Noman alive until the Feast with casual item accrual over the course of a year.
[quote=Toran]As hwoosh said, it eminently possible to keep the Noman alive until the Feast with casual item accrual over the course of a year.[/quote] To corroborate, I spent 18 buckets on mine when I got the tattoo, which was excessive (it had 160 health left after 3 weekly hits of -61, -106, -97), but even were they all necessary and if I’d bought them all from Urchins that’s just 2700 echoes of fairly accessible items. Which is a fair amount for a vanity quality, of course, but an end-game player could get the Nightwhispers from Tigers and Storm-Threnodies from Underclay in 3 fairly relaxed weeks if they wanted to, quicker if they were especially dedicated!
Assuming, of course, the melt values don’t get worse again, but I can’t imagine them doing so; enough people have gotten tattoos that there isn’t much exclusivity to "protect", which I think was the original argument.
So, how best to spend 6ToL?
My main has got her lodging upgrade, so that’s done. My alt has spent nothing, but both are at 6 ToL, so umm, now what? Try out a Noman story, not hoping to last for this feat of the rose (which will be my first)? There’s a thing in the cave of the nadir, how much does that cost?
Main character probably wants a ZeeZnail retreat for pure zee monster hunter fun, if there’s no better option.
DO I understand this conversation correctly, that ToL lasts indefinitely? While pails of "snow" just vanish if you hold them too long.