WARNING; Sunless Sea hidden ambition SPOILERS, as well as a bit of discussion/possible SPOILERS of SMEN. If you do not wish to be spoiled, pass thee not beyond this sentence.
Alright, I tried using post links, but upon testing…links didn’t go where I wanted. So meanwhile, if you want to find one of my keystone posts, ignore any remaining links, and use the page numbers and keywords in Ctrl+F:
(Page 1) East Information Post: THE FINAL HORIZON
(Page 2) Salt Information Post: TRAVELLER RETURNING
(Page 2) Questions Post: WHERE ARE YOU GOING, OLD SOUL?
(Page 3) Speculation Post: DREAD SURMISE
(Page 3) Parabola/East/Salt Post: MIRRORS AND CHANGE
(Page 4) Zubmariner Post: SUN WITHIN THE SEA
Has gone NORTH. Has taken the Who Is Salt? path. Really wishes I could discuss, but such is forbidden, and I shall not be the one to break the pact. Does not regret any of it. Can say this much: This line of inquiry is likely to be of vast importance.
First, just out of curiousity, and to get things maybe rolling a bit, what are all the mentions of the East in Fallen London right now? I know the Zee-ship option is there, telling me that the Widows Brandy is suggested to come from there, but are there any other mentions? (Asides from Fate-locked content, I’d rather not be devoured by a swarm of rats).
Second, what mentions of Salt are there, as as far as I can recall, I haven’t run into too many mentions, with two mentions of TRAVELLER RETURNING, one in content I cannot and the other when I did my destiny at Hallowmas. I know the other two so called ‘Gods of the Zee’ have their many mentions, but honestly, they don’t pique my curiosity as much as Salt (Again, asides from fate content, and especially aside from SMEN, as not only would I be drowned in a well by multiple parties, I intend to one day complete it for myself, and I’ve spoiled myself enough with that which was mentioned prior).
MAJOR OP EDIT: Wow, seems I’m not the only lunatic interested in this. To cut down a bit on the rambling, I’m going to edit out most of this preamble, and just make a list of references to the East and Salt, a list of possible references, and a bit for speculation (coughtinfoilhattingcough).
(Prelist note: Due to the fact that some storylets that reference the post topic being fate-locked, I cannot divulge where the storylet can be found, post the storylets. To accomodate said rules on FATE, I will only use the most miniscule amount of information that I can, without making it impossible to discuss at all.)
List of Easty References:
1.) Freeing the Genial Magician during the Wednesday in Parabola Destiny storylet mentions the presence of a Riddle of the East of Everything.
2.) When selecting a destination after getting your travel quality to 10 in the Southern Archipelago, one destination is East, with a requirement of a
Celestial Cinnabar Compass, and the description: ""If one could cross the Unterzee to the uttermost East, what would one find? Is it really thence the Widow’s brandy comes?". (Possible Widow connection to the East).
3.) There is a certain storylet that involves you being denied passage East…at the moment. Also involves good old Kingeaters, for Exaltation players.
List of Salty References:
1.) When returning from Sea of Voices, the intermediate storylet between SoV and the Archipelago has one of your zailors praying to the Three Gods (Storm, Stone, and Salt). When he/she/it gets to Salt, they start by asking Salt to not tempt us (the crew) and is then immediately cut of by the bosun before they can say what the temptation is.
2.) A seemingly major story-chain in the Seeking Mr. Eaten’s Name content. Via what information I can glean from spacemarine9’s fantastic tumblr (saint arthur’s candle, in particular, the Riding Immortal on the Seeking Road post) a hidden path in the End-Game of Seeking involves the question: Who is Salt? Said path can only be accessed by completing all "optional preparations", and doing so will allow you to acquire the "Sun Beneath the Sea" quality. I do not know anymore, as near the end of SMEN, there is apparently a request to keep secret anything past that certain point, and even were someone to reveal the information, I would not post it here.
3.) Apparently some storylet at the Panopticon during the Rose feast.
4.) Any mention of Traveller Returning (Often done in all caps). If you take the Hallowmas Visitor option of the Special Constable, it does say "perhaps you’ll soon dream of a traveller returning" (Turns out I’m not cra…that crazy). I do know of one instance involving a Bazzar Permit with "Services Rendered" being filled in with the aforementioned phrase, but alas, Fate-Locked, so that’s as detailed as I can get.
1.) In the SoV, you can hear voices on the wind (or the wind is actually alive and speaking to you, Sea of Voices is pretty f’ing weird like that). You aren’t quite able to make it out, and what you think it might say is ‘A future consumed and forgotten’. Yes, I get that this sounds really Mr Eaten’y, but something important to recall is that while yes, SMEN does involve the consumption of your Destiny (Or getting the Torment destiny, I’m no SMEN expert by any means), something similar also occurred in the Exaltation Ambition, the Sunless Sea hidden ambition that had you cross the East. At Kingeater’s Castle, the Place of Pacts,can sacrifice your past, your present, your future. Not only can you no longer exist, but those directly connected to you, such as your wife and child (Really, consider the Exaltation ambition to be SMEN put into Sunless Sea. Both involve sacrifice, seeking a name, and it is bloody hard to find the text for either on the internet). While yes, this SoV storylet could just be SMEN referencing, it could just as well be Salty.
2.) Also in SoV (I got super tinfoil hatty about this one a little ways down the thread), there is a storylet where you pass a Lighthouse. This being the super freaky SoV, of course the Lighthouse is alive. In it’s rambling, it mentions that some unconfirmed male entity was seeking after a name, and Mr Fires came by in his super-awesome dirigible and didn’t even pay the living lighthouse any mind, and so forth. Again, could be SMEN reference, could be Salt. I also have no idea what Fires was doing so far from the Bazaar (The Unterzee alters every now and again, cuz of Treachery, but at least in Sunless Sea, which should still be canon, Polythreme is ALWAYS far from London). Worth pointing out I suppose that Fires could/maybe be the patron Master of Travellers, as he rules the fuel trade, dirigibles, and has a huge part to play in Zee Travel. Also worth mentioning that Polythreme, at least in Sunless Sea, is ALWAYS in the Eastern half of the map.
3.)Really, not sure which particular storylet this was, but on some Card with the Urchins, there was mention of one singing a song: ""…an’ we all fall down when the Mark’s passed around, but we climb up the ropes to the SKYYYYYYY!". Your character even mentions that the word Mark had a distinctly capital letter,
A.) In Sunless Sea, you can pass over horizons and get particular qualities for doing so. You get Scars for going North (appropriate), The Western Stigma for passing West into the bowels of the Dawn Machine, and the Touch of the South for braving Adam’s Way. Attempting to go East without achieving the Exaltation Ambition (Part of the process in achieving said ambition is actually crossing all four horizons, so you have to try) is The Mark of The East. Also worth noting is that the East is where the roof of the neath opens up like an eye (IIRC, you can see…well, a sky after passing the East).
B.) Also important is the fact that the Urchins, asides from being the bestest faction ever, have a LOT of connections to some of the deeper mysteries of the Neath. The Wild Words item category involves them in all item actions. They have explicit connections to Storm and Stone (To get into Old Downy in Heart’s Desire, you have to say a bit of Presbytereate verse praising the Mountain, AKA Stone, the treasure they guard is a sliver of the Mountain itself, and when you promise to return it, they say that the thunder told them so, which is connected to Storm and his dream chain).Not sure if they have even explicit storylets with Salt, but since Salt, (or what I understand is his embittered ex-boss, the White) tends to wipe a lot of details from history, wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t anything more specific.
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