[quote=Anne Auclair][quote=The Lord Breakfast][quote=Gul al-Ahlaam]Impersonation/delivery of false testimony: We’re out of masters now, but we’ve still got two ‘false’ masters, Sacks and Chimes. Sacks is a creation of the Bazaar, so he can’t have existed before the masters and the Bazaar met one another. Most people agree that Chimes is all of the masters taking turns, but Failbetter never confirmed this. Even in the Mysteries thread, they explicitly avoid saying anything particular about Mr Chimes one way or another. And in Nemesis, where it explicitly tells you that Sacks isn’t a real master, it never says anything to that effect about Chimes, and lumps them in with the other real ones. So I’m saying maybe it’s the other way around. Maybe Mr Chimes IS a real master, and imitates its colleagues. It could trade in influence, or lies, or something like that.
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This is an interesting point of view, and it does mean the numbers work out a bit better. I’m a fan of this conclusion. And having a Master who imitates the other Masters for lulz does strike me as a fun idea.[/quote]
If this were so, then the House of Chimes is something of a fraud. The House gets its exclusivity by being patronized by all the Masters, rather then simply being the hangout/establishment of one Master in particular. Furthermore, this indicates that if a Master is not clearly identified but merely gives you behavior "hints" it might not actually be that Master, but rather the Master who impersonates all the others.[/li]
Does anyone remember Mr Chimes having a Sackmass Noman though? Like, Mr. Eaten has one, so Mr. Chimes would presumably have one, if he was a separate Master.
On the other hand, if Mr. Chimes really is a collective product of all the other Masters, then maybe they’re all guilty of impersonation, with Mr. Chimes simply a collective expression of this tendency.[/quote]
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Perhaps Chimes is a separate master, but he simply never leaves the House of Chimes. If I recall, the Master Nomen were created using Master’s blood, so if Chimes stayed safe, inside the House of Chimes, perhaps his blood was never used, thus why he didn’t have a Noman. This would also mean that whenever you encounter a Master outside the House of Chimes, you can be assured that it is the real Master, rather than Chimes impersonating them. Perhaps that’s even the specific purpose of the House of Chimes. Perhaps it was created for Chimes by the other Masters to enable him to continue his "criminal" activities without interfering with their business in London proper, even as they all use the privacy of the Neath to commit theirs. The House isn’t so much sponsored by all the Masters as a club for Exceptional Friends, but instead sponsored by all the Masters as a place for one of their own to take refuge.