[quote=Anagram]Fallen London
This is the Echo for time. i’d love reading the others.[/quote]
This is the one for Love.
This is the one for Power.
This is the one for Escape.
edited by The Curious Watcher on 4/26/2020
[quote=Matthew Enigma]
- How does Mr. Pages intends to be granted his desire if he wins, knowing now who grants? [/quote]
I was under the impression that the Masters have to do their best to give the winner what they want, like some sort of vow they can’t break. But that’s really speculation, so you raise a good point! [/quote]
My point, exactly. [spoiler]We now know that Mr. Pages desires to go home- meaning, he wants to fly in the dark of the High Wilderness. That brings some implications I will try to dillucidate. So, my train of thought runs like this:
- Mr Pages desires to go home.
- The Masters of the Bazaar are under the obligation, as it seems, to do their best attempt to make true the desire of the winner of the Marvellous. Mr. Pages seems to be confident in their skill to do so.
Two possibilities stem from this:
One: - Mr Pages is playing to win the Marvellous.
- That means either the Masters of the Bazaar HAVE a way to make Mr. Pages desire true, meaning they have a way to go to the High Wilderness- which also implicates that either such an attempt is so difficult that it requires a joint effort on their part, or Pages does not know such a way, but suspects they do: if he could make his desire true on his own, he would already do so, except in a case I expound later,
- Or Pages merely hopes that they can make his desie true, and is delusional on the matter.
- Anyway, this also implicates Pages belives that their obligation to make that desire true trumps over their promise to the Bazaar- which could also be the reason as to why he has not tried it on his own, as to not break his promise.
Or: - Pages is not playing the Marvellous to win, for reasons I can only suspect, and is merely the “house” of the game.
Either way: - This give us precios insight on the character of Pages, especially if the first option is true, and specially if you take into account that Pages was one of the few Masters, if I got that right, that believes that the Bazaar misión is still doable.
This also raises two questions: - When did Mr. Pages grow such a desire? He is a Master. He could cheat trough the game.
- If he wins, and the Masters do make his desire true, would at least some of them be tempted as to follow them, specially the ones, like Mr. Irons, that loathe the Bazaar and the Promise they were made?
Anyway, I now know my Heart Desire: to make him go home!
(Do you imagine it? “My cromulescent buddies, I WON! Take me home!”)
Also, I laughed so hard with the Custodian. But who do you think was the Lord of Blood? Veils?[/spoiler]
Also, open question to you kind ones:
How many Lumps of Lamplighters Beeswax do I need to make 1001 Memories of Light?
And what would they cost me,in Echoes?
[quote=Preacher Tzara][quote=Matthew Enigma]
- How does Mr. Pages intends to be granted his desire if he wins, knowing now who grants? [/quote]
I was under the impression that the Masters have to do their best to give the winner what they want, like some sort of vow they can’t break. But that’s really speculation, so you raise a good point! [/quote]
My point, exactly. [snip]
Also, open question to you kind ones:
How many Lumps of Lamplighters Beeswax do I need to make 1001 Memories of Light?
And what would they cost me,in Echoes?[/quote]
This is not my Ambition, so I’m speculating without some primary source information. But.
First, I’m about 90% sure that promises can be made in a way that makes them Law. Like, enforceable-by-the-Judgements Law. And the Masters seem to make that type of contract regularly. Whatever binds the Masters to the winner, expect it to have the effect of a literal law of physics.
Second, it’s possible that "escaping to the High Wilderness" could be interpreted as "accelerating the timeline of the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh cities so as to discharge the obligation to the Bazaar." This is, of course, Bad News for London. It’s the sort of stakes that are in play for an Ambition.
Now for beeswax… long story short, you’re trying to obtain 500 echoes worth of stuff. The fastest way is still not that fast, and it’s expensive. Straight-up purchasing beeswax and upconverting is the most action-efficient pathway, but buying from the Bazaar comes with a markup of more than 100%. So a thousand echoes. I believe most players side-converted from other T3 items.
Two works in Court (one Song and one Poem) pay out in thousands of beeswax. If you happen to have a Rubbery Hound on hand, one breeding option gives a bunch of beeswax. It’s not efficient to go to Flute Street to obtain one, but if you already have one it’s fast.
I immediately thought of Mr Hearts.
Also, why is everyone talking about grinding enormous amounts of memories of light? I don’t remember running into such a requirement. Or did I avoid it by being a glassman?
[quote=Tsar Koschei]
Also, why is everyone talking about grinding enormous amounts of memories of light? I don’t remember running into such a requirement. Or did I avoid it by being a glassman?[/quote]
Yep. Laboratory research of Route to Parabola - which not-Glassmen do to, well, get to Parabola - requires 1001 memory of light. Also 1 uncanny incunabula and 1 antique mystery.
edited by Alpha900i on 4/27/2020
Right, thought that might have been it.
Does screaming at each other incoherently count as talking? If yes, then I already had a nice chat or two…
Very excited about Arbor, too.
The Manager’s desire is not really that surprising to me. It was either do some more things to his beloved, or do something to himself to be more like his beloved.
In this case, it’s the latter. He wants to become another Polythreme.
I do wonder what it means for our promise to the Hundred not to let the Manager win, that the Manager’s desire is not at all what the Hundred thought it was.
So for those curious about who the past winners are…
[spoiler] The first is October of the Calendar Council, who you have to visit in Parabola. People who are companions with the Curious Contrarian save on Revolutionary Favors, while flavor text changes depending on whether you met her during the Exceptional Story: The Shallows.
The second is Gregory Beechwood, a former (and deceased?) lover of Cora Bagley and left a record of his work at the University.
The third is the Amused Lordship, one of the founding members of the Dilmun Club.
[/spoiler]
You have to revisit all the players again in order to locate the past winners’ whereabouts. The locations are the same, except that Mr Pages is relocated to the Side-Streets for now.
Aside from item requirements, you will also eventually need the card-based opportunity "The Seekers of the Garden" in order to progress.
Then the Honour will start: you will have to go the northernmost part of Arbor to play against everyone in the first round.
edited by The Curious Watcher on 4/28/2020
Regarding Mr. Pages, spoilers from the Bag a Legend:
[spoiler]Masters as a legal entity are authorized to make deals and promises on behalf of the Bazaar itself. Every deal made by the Bazaar is written as a contract in Correspondence and acts as a Law, making it very hard to renege on or break. While the Masters are tasked with fullfilling the conditions of the deal, they act as proxies of Bazaar.
So, if Mr. Pages were to win such a deal, this could be a way to make the Bazaar free him from the original promise without incurring penalties - this would be literally achieved by the Bazaar declaring “Okay, I free you”.
The main question is whether or not such a contract regarding Marvellous was actually made. Most likely yes - such a premise is a great generator of many kinds of stories for the Bazaar.
Though he indeed could simply represent the host, with his desire not being at stake.[/spoiler]
It’s a bit embarrassing how much Fate I’ve burned trying to get to Arbor and still nothing.
I think the RNG Gods have something against me today.
But going in and out of your university lab refreshes your deck for free.
I may have spent over 100 Fate on refreshing Actions alone. To say that I am slightly disappointed that I still haven’t drawn the necessary card is an understatement.
A warning and an encouragement for those deciding what to do with the Monkey and Virginia:
If you succeed in defending the monkey, your Renown: Hell will be reduced. However, the Bright Brass Skull is not consumed, which makes this option significantly cheaper.
Finally got to Arbor, after popping in and out of my laboratory about 30 times (my poor students must be quite confused). I’ll admit, the text describing arriving and taking your seat for the Honour got me genuinely emotional. I’m enjoying this Ambition conclusion so much!
Gotta say, that was pretty cool.
I didn’t fold at the table, I defended the monkey, and I pressed Cora on where her husband was. It’s only the last one I kinda feel bad about. Also I guessed that the monkey was Breechwood before I got the book, and I don’t know when or why. Ah well.
Does this Ambition ending hurt a lot? The Curious Watcher’s Spoiler made my heart hurt.
Finding the previous winners goes too smooth for me. I didn’t quite catch how we know that our chosen pairs of consultees talk about the same person and we get a definite answer out of this vague clues too easily.