Hello. I’ve been thinking about getting obtaining a lodging at the Brass Embassy, and I think I might have found a more efficient way to gain 1250 brilliant souls other than using Thefts of a Particular Character. Grinding for memories of distant shores in the labyrinth by breeding a somnolent hyena and then converting them to brilliant souls may be preferable. The only issue is that it’s partially luck based, and I don’t know the luck percentage. Either way, breeding and converting MoDS to brilliant souls is worth more epa than Thefts of Particular Character.
After hearing from xKiv, accounting for the prisoner’s honey needed to capture a Somnolent Hyena shows that breeding no longer appears to be the most efficient way to grind brilliant souls. This post will be left as a reference, to prevent another person from crunching this math.
- Thefts of Particular Character (most straightforward)
[ul][li]25 brilliant souls are gained attempt[/li][li]32cp of casing used on success[/li][li]using a gang of hoodlums gives 18cp of casing[/li][li]every 16 uses of a gang of hoodlums allows 9 attempts at brilliant souls[/li][li]1250 / 25 = 50[/li][li]16 (gang of hoodlums) * 5 actions + 9 actions = 89 actions for 9 batches of brilliant souls[/li][li]89 actions * 5 rounds = 445 actions for 45 batches of brilliant souls[/li][li]5 more batches come from 9 uses of a gang of hoodlums and 5 actions for cashing in (9 * 5 + 5 = 50 actions)[/li][li]total number of actions needed is 445 + 50 = 495 actions[/li][/ul] EPA
- (1250 * 0.5) / 500 = 1.25 epa[/li][li]if only doing 9 batches at a time: (225 * 0.5) / 89 = ~1.264 epa
- Breeding a Somnolent Hyena and Pulling out the Stops (80 MoDS/55 MoDS, 70% or 80% luck check)
- getting 100 honey (Doing the decent thing), going from the 4th coil to the 2nd coil, capturing the hyena, and back to the 4th coil takes 7 actions[/li][li]using the 3cp options raises a quality to level 6 in 7 actions[/li][li]raising all three qualities to level 6 requires 7 * 3 = 21 actions[/li][li]breeding the hyena takes 1 action[/li][li]7 actions for obtaining + 21 actions for preparing + 1 action for breeding = 29 actions needed to breed the hyena[/li][li]80 MoDS for a success, 55 MoDS on failure (70% or 80% luck check)
assuming 70% chance of success
[ul][li](80 * 70%) + (55 * 30%) = 72.5 MoDS per breeding[/li][li]1250 / 72.5 = 17.24 => 17 or 18 breedings needed for 1250 MoDS (dependent on breeding luck)[/li][/ul] if 18 breedings are performed
[ul][li]72.5 * 18 = 1305 MoDS obtained[/li][li]converting MoDS to brilliant souls is done at a ratio of 50:51[/li][li]converting 1250 MoDS takes 1250 / 50 = 25 actions[/li][li]1250 * (51/50) = 1275 brilliant souls[/li][li](18 breedings * 29 action per breeding) + 25 actions for conversions = 547 actions with 55 MoDS and 25 brilliant souls left over[/li][/ul] EPA
- [(1275 brilliant souls * 0.5 echoes) + (55 MoDS * 0.5 echoes)] / 547 actions = ~1.216 epa
assuming 80% chance of success
[ul][li](80 * 80%) + (55 * 20%) = 75 MoDS per breeding[/li][li]1250 / 75 = 16.66 => 16 or 17 breedings needed for 1250 MoDS (dependent on breeding luck)[/li][/ul] if 17 breedings are performed
[ul][li]75 * 17 = 1275 MoDS obtained[/li][li]converting MoDS to brilliant souls is done at a ratio of 50:51[/li][li]converting 1250 MoDS takes 1250 / 50 = 25 actions[/li][li]1250 * (51/50) = 1275 brilliant souls[/li][li](17 breedings * 29 action per breeding) + 25 actions for conversions = 518 actions with 25 MoDS and 25 brilliant souls left over[/li][/ul] EPA
- [(1275 brilliant souls * 0.5 echoes) + (25 MoDS * 0.5 echoes)] / 518 actions = ~1.255 epa
The best case scenario is when 16 breedings are performed. 15 breeding successes and 1 failure give 1255 MoDS, which is highly unlikely.
[ul][li]70% => 0.7[/li][li]0.7 ^ 15 = 0.00474756… => 0.475%[/li][li]80% => 0.8[/li][li]0.8 ^ 15 = 0.035184… => 3.518%[/li][li]only 489 actions would be needed, and 5 MoDS and 25 brilliant souls would be left over[/li][/ul] EPA
- [(1275 brilliant souls * 0.5 echoes) + (5 MoDS * 0.5 echoes)] / 489 actions = ~1.309 epa
The worst case scenario is when 23 breedings are performed. 23 failures gives 1265 MoDS and is almost impossible.
- 30% => 0.3[/li][li]0.3 ^ 23 = 9.4143… * 10 ^ -13 => 0.0000000009414%[/li][li]20% => 0.2[/li][li]0.2 ^ 23 = 8.3886… * 10 ^ -17 => 0.000000000000008389%[/li][li]only 667 actions would be needed, and 15 MoDS and 25 brilliant souls would be left over[/li][li]about as likely as getting struck by lightning in the Neath while you are being declared as a new Master of the Bazaar
EPA
- [(1275 brilliant souls * 0.5 echoes) + (15 MoDS * 0.5 echoes)] / 667 actions = ~0.9671 epa
edited by yang573 on 8/8/2015
edited by yang573 on 8/8/2015
edited by yang573 on 8/11/2015