I’d suggest that, if people are going to hurl invective in-character, they do so in the Fabularities, and make clear they’re simply writing fiction. Out-of-character discussion is to be kept civil!
There’s a difference between discussing events within the story’s own internal logic, and roleplaying as a character in that story. Roleplaying should be done in Mr Pages’ Fabularities; the other boards are for discussing things as yourself.
edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 6/28/2017
Maybe I should’ve added “Doffs bandages” to the end of my passage to make it clearer.
Yeah, that’s a good point. With regard to Fixer, though, I’m not sure where to put election-specific feedback. Because I had more fun and faster advancement switching to campaigner in an afternoon than I did in a day and a half of being a fixer.
They didn’t take over, they were always part of the Contrarian’s campaign…because the Contrarian is a member of the Calendar Council :P[/quote]
The Contrariant was thoughly against them taking over, which is rare for a man who goes back and forwards on everything.[/quote]
Actually we don’t know his opinion on the matter as he has never stated what he thought. He could have invited February to take the job for all we know.[/quote]
…I’m pretty sure he hated it. There was text and everything. Anyone got the exact quote?[/quote]
Yes, I do. Kept links to all the candidates here.
And I’d agree with your assessment of the situation based on reading Failbetter’s actual storylets… but there was a great deal of head canon being interjected as hard facts during last years election. Perhaps a foreshadowing of the "fake news" and "alternative facts" that were to come in real-world events. :(
Yes, the Contrarian seemed unhappy with February’s interference, along with implications that he was not entirely on board with the whole business of the Great Work. Baffling that ANYONE should oppose the Liberation of Night, which is:
But some souls have always lacked the eyes to see in the dark.
Err, requesting aid from any available fixers, failed one too many persuasive rolls
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edited by Reinol von Lorica on 6/28/2017
Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.
[quote=LillianAranach][quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
And for all of his heroic acts against the aristocracy of hell, he seems to be very thick buddies with the devils of London…
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Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.[/quote]
Indeed, even amongst devils he helps the little guy stand up against tyranny.
[quote=Akernis][quote=LillianAranach][quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
And for all of his heroic acts against the aristocracy of hell, he seems to be very thick buddies with the devils of London…
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Indubitably. He helped the devils of London overthrow the aristocracy of hell. The Princes are exiled. The devils of London are the revolutionaries who formed the current republic. It makes sense that he would be close with them if he directly aided against the aristocracy.[/quote]
Indeed, even amongst devils he helps the little guy stand up against tyranny.[/quote]
Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat!
[quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat![/quote]
Don’t worry, I am well aware of how ridiculous such an argument is. It was mostly for fun.
One might as well have countered with ‘only amongst the devils does he help the little guy’, or point out that there really is no innocence at play at all when dealing with the politics of Hell.
And while I do think that the devils we have now are the lesser evil compared to their monstrous princes and princesses*, they are still devils. But that is irrelevant to the election at hand.
*Of course, me being my nefarious self just means that makes me want to meet and work with them all the more.
[quote=Akernis][quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
Oh god, this backwards logic is making my eyes bleed. Retreat! Retreat![/quote]
Don’t worry, I am well aware of how ridiculous such an argument is. It was mostly for fun.
One might as well have countered with ‘only amongst the devils does he help the little guy’, or point out that there really is no innocence at play at all when dealing with the politics of Hell.
And while I do think that the devils we have now are the lesser evil compared to their monstrous princes and princesses*, they are still devils. But that is irrelevant to the election at hand.
*Of course, me being my nefarious self just means that makes me want to meet and work with them all the more.[/quote]
I get it, though.
Feducci’s supporters are primarily players who feel a fairly large degree of detachment with their characters or the actual setting, so they pick the option that’s most likely to amuse them and stir up things. Either that, or their player characters are so powerful already that they’ll only really be able to benefit from Feducci’s victory.
As a DTC supporter, I’m just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I’d personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that’s been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I’m putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I’m doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I’ve written everything but the name-list myself).
I think I’m getting too carried away at times, I absolutely love campaigning but I’m making it more of a hot-button issue than it is.
I LOVE the choice of candidates this year.
Sinning Jenny had no serious contender because she won over both social-minded and badassery-enclined citizens. No one else could outweigh the combined force of the do-gooders and the self-serving lawless!
… And so now, we get to set the two groups against each other. Let’s see who shouts the loudest. <3
I threw my support behind the Detective, after a long hard thinking, because I figure if either of the two others win, they won’t care whether I supported them or not; she might be cross!
Also, her plan to investigate the authorities might be foolish, but no more than "let’s take down all the oppressors" the two others are promising. And if anyone has a shot at actually getting some of their grand plan to fruition, it’s her and no one else (assuming Feducci’s plan isn’t to just wreck havoc of course), I think.
But unlike last year, I’m LOVING this season and I don’t think I’ll mind any of the three getting to power, it’ll be a fascinating year anyway this plays out… \m/
Wait, that’s how it’s supposed to work? I received a message and clicked Respond, and on the response page the acceptance led to the invite-a-contact page (on which the original sender wasn’t an option). Should it have? If so that seems weird and clunky.
I think you are spot on there, Infinity Sim.
I do not care about the issues. The poor of Fallen London are nothing to me <whisper>because they’re not real</whisper>. They can all go hang for all I care (in fact from an RP point of view, I think my character would actually want things to get worse for the downtrodden Londoners, as then the likelihood of them swelling the ranks of the revolutionaries might well increase). I care about being entertained, and about what’s interesting. From where I’m sitting there isn’t all that much that’s interesting about the ID and the DTC when you compare them to old bandage-features.
I don’t want to know about how worthy, noble or progressive candidates are, I want to learn interesting, quirky and funny things about them. I want to be entertained.
So when folks take to the forum arguing their case like we were talking about real world issues, for me it somewhat sucks the fun out of things. It becomes dreary and tiresome, much like our own politics and so much not like what Fallen London is normally all about to me. So occasionally I start getting snarky (apologies for that). Clearly some folks do get a lot of enjoyment out of treating it like it is real. I find that hard to imagine, but perhaps I need to try and be a little more understanding.
And while the DTC is the dullest thing to hit London by a country mile, there is one thing about her that is tantalizing, and that’s her murky past with the Revolutionaries. I really hope we get to find out more about that. And I hold out hope that should she win, because of that connection, there might be an option on her mayoral card that post-conversion gives out Revolutionary favours (some kind of secret dealings perhaps). That would be one super nice silver lining to the cloud of having her in charge for a year. :)
Dammit, the preview window seems to be up the spout now. This place is falling apart.
I find the instructions confusing to the point where I am frustrated. It seems like the writers changed the mechanics of the election but didn’t update the directions. I chose a career and then when I tried to do anything, it said I need to choose a candidate by waiting for a card “Election is heating up” or something like that. The card never showed up. Instead I discovered that choosing a candidate is a storylet.
[quote=Plynkes]I think you are spot on there, Infinity Sim.
I do not care about the issues. The poor of Fallen London are nothing to me <whisper>because they’re not real</whisper>. They can all go hang for all I care (in fact from an RP point of view, I think my character would actually want things to get worse for the downtrodden Londoners, as then the likelihood of them swelling the ranks of the revolutionaries might well increase). I care about being entertained, and about what’s interesting. From where I’m sitting there isn’t all that much that’s interesting about the ID and the DTC when you compare them to old bandage-features.
I don’t want to know about how worthy, noble or progressive candidates are, I want to learn interesting, quirky and funny things about them. I want to be entertained.
So when folks take to the forum arguing their case like we were talking about real world issues, for me it somewhat sucks the fun out of things. It becomes dreary and tiresome, much like our own politics and so much not like what Fallen London is normally all about to me. So occasionally I start getting snarky (apologies for that). Clearly some folks do get a lot of enjoyment out of treating it like it is real. I find that hard to imagine, but perhaps I need to try and be a little more understanding.
And while the DTC is the dullest thing to hit London by a country mile, there is one thing about her that is tantalizing, and that’s her murky past with the Revolutionaries. I really hope we get to find out more about that. And I hold out hope that should she win, because of that connection, there might be an option on her mayoral card that post-conversion gives out Revolutionary favours (some kind of secret dealings perhaps). That would be one super nice silver lining to the cloud of having her in charge for a year. :)
Dammit, the preview window seems to be up the spout now. This place is falling apart.[/quote]
Rest assured that all sides will indubitably become more interesting by the halfway mark.
Once the election heats up, we’ll get new investigation results that will show that all of the election campaigns are slowly collapsing in on themselves, that all three candidates are in far over their heads, and that atleast a half a dozen cats will have exploded.
…Atleast, that’s how it went down last year, I suspect that’s the path we’ll be running this year.
I am in any case really interested in which direction the DTC’s campaign will be going, I suspect she’ll run out of funds and will consequently have to start selling back honey or something like that, but maybe the revolutionaries really do take over her platform (even though that’d be kind of a half-assed copy of the contrarian’s run from last year).
[quote=Infinity Simulacrum]
I get it, though.
Feducci’s supporters are primarily players who feel a fairly large degree of detachment with their characters or the actual setting, so they pick the option that’s most likely to amuse them and stir up things. Either that, or their player characters are so powerful already that they’ll only really be able to benefit from Feducci’s victory.
As a DTC supporter, I’m just looking at it from a serious roleplaying perspective, trying to argue for what I’d personally want to happen if I was a citizen of London. I think that that’s been fairly well proven by the degree of effort I’m putting into this whole campaign business, and the amount of scrutinizing I’m doing (see the google doc in my signature for proof, I’ve written everything but the name-list myself).
I think I’m getting too carried away at times, I absolutely love campaigning but I’m making it more of a hot-button issue than it is.[/quote]
It’s funny that you mention this. I primarily choose Feducci as my candidate since he seemed like the most interesting of the whole lot and because I can also kinda detach myself from the setting and, I guess, make a meta choice. But, ironically enough, I think supporting Feducci as a candidate is something that my character would also do from a roleplaying perspective since he’d back Feducci because, like me, he’d find Feducci as the most interesting candidate and because he is also pretty detached from the issues that plague London (even if he isn’t actively opposed to fixing them, but he won’t go out of his way to do that)
Also, as a little aside, while the bit of drama/toxicity that comes from the Election event can get a bit tiring/disheartening, I also like it on some level since it shows how invested people can get in the whole setting and all that (though, please, let’s keep the toxicity to a minimum, lest the forums become as poisonous as the Cantigaster lol).
EDIT: Though, I can definitively see how the whole drama/toxicity can take away from the enjoyment. I guess I jsut prefer to see the silver lining of the situation.
edited by Corvo on 6/28/2017
I just noticed in a donation of booze I made to the cause… the DTC gang are making a game of seeing how fast they can pour alcohol down the gutters. Perhaps the anarchists will set fire to the sewers and party in the intoxicating fumes? Or maybe some terrible gutter-monster will come drunkenly to the surface, hah.
Not sure if this is the place for it, but I’m somewhat confused about how to declare support for candidates. I’m told I’m looking for the “Election Heats Up” card to pledge my support to a candidate, but I’ve been flipping since Tuesday (I missed the festival kickoff) on my main and two alts and nothing. Is this just the RNG? Am I missing something? I just want to start campaigning.
Enter the pinned storylet "The Mayoral Election 1895", the option to choose a candidate should be available there.