Has anyone chosen and echoed the options marked as Clearly Unwise, Not Beneficial and Harmful to No One But Yourself?
So do these two actually love one another or are they both implied to be using the other for some sort of personal/political gain? I haven’t started the story yet and their reasons for marrying will play a big part in whether Fleshy decides to ruin things or not.
Yes.
Long and short of it is:
Both of those outcomes.They genuinely love each other it seems, and if you ask them both privately it’s clear they are both in love, but they are also planning their own scheme and plans that conincide and conflict, because, you know, they are both monsters.
edited by Kylestien on 12/19/2017
Thanks, that helps ;)
As always I’m very glad that I take my time with these stories as it seems that by the time I get anywhere all the bugs and problems have magically been fixed.
Thank you to everyone who rushes through so that my experience isn’t tarnished.
You monster you!
What are the rewards?
I didn’t see a quality change for letting him (try) to interrupt, unlike with the other options, so it seems he’s just that irrelevant.
I think those complaints come from before the warnings were added. People tried to prevent interruptions during the wedding, but told the spouses-to-be about the other parties’ comments without knowing this would cause problems. Then the wedding was called off despite the player’s (intended) best efforts, and it seemed like failure was inevitable.
There’s no qualities set for sabotaging one side or another, so I doubt it.
I don’t have an echo for it, but confessing your love to both apparently gets you thrown out and your Scandal increased to 8.
An Enigma if the wedding fails and a Primeval Hint if it succeeds. Either way you get a pinned storylet in London. Not sure what it gives if the wedding fails; if it succeeded, it gives 15 Romantic Notions. Underwhelming, but at least a good source of a difficult-to-grind item.
If it fails you get three scraps of incendiary gossip.
did anyone get the success option for ‘gad bout in the library’? I’ve used 60 actions so far trying and have not succeeded once.
Can anyone PM the option where you object and say you love them both? The text makes that option look amazing.
Check towards the bottom of page 7, the response to Hark de Gaul by Optimatum.
So I have a lot of feelings about the story, and I feel like sharing what I sent to feedback here as well. I chose, full disclosure, to sabotage the wedding.
[spoiler] What I liked:
- The buildup to the wedding. The way we learned about the bride and groom’s plans for their shared power was very well executed.
- The background of the palace, particularly the "airs of" descriptors were wonderful and built an excellent atmosphere.
- Previously minor characters like Virginia, Baseborn & Fowlingpiece, and the Veteran Privy-Counselor were given more depth and life.
What I did not like: - There was almost no interaction with Feducci and the Captivating Princess, who were the draw for the story to me. The interactions I had with them were minor, had no reflection on past interactions with them, and felt very rushed. I would like for stories that are about characters to involve them more directly.
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My character’s agency had very little consequence on the overall story and setting of Fallen London. This is my biggest issue, at the end of the day. Had my character not shown up at all, there would have been more change to the overall plot and setting than if he had been involved. Having some form of impact on either the palace, the princess, or feducci would have been nice. A story-affecting quality or visible instance of what my choice accomplished would have been even better.
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The ending was abrupt, the remaining storylet it gives you is… really not interesting or worth using, and at the end of the day I feel like I didn’t accomplish anything. I felt less like I had control over the story, and more like the options were "bad ending" or "status quo." Bad choices work in storylets like the Season of Stones, where even if you can’t get a Best Ending, you had three stories where you made a difference before that. In this… not so much. I don’t know how to improve that, other than to give the ruined wedding option more visible impact.
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No other stories about the royals were relevant. The Generous Princess didn’t show up. The Empress’s Shadow wasn’t mentioned. I would have loved to see them.
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This one’s really more of a long-standing personal gripe, but… Illegitimately Royal is a house of chimes quality that shows up in PoSI content. It’s the only fatelocked house of chimes quality. It has also never, ever been relevant in content related to the royal family, which kills me a little each time I do something with them. This is a great resource available to Failbetter, I’d love to see it put to use. [/spoiler]
edited by ZackOak on 12/20/2017
Well, now this makes it one of the best stories for MW/Nota grind preparations! It sure beats honey via unfinished business (even if it yields a Kiss) and one can just sit in London and not move to Poly for RNs.
edited by Skinnyman on 12/20/2017
What’s the math for that? You’d still need to spend lots of actions to get enough Romantic Notions for conversions, so they overall MW per action should be low (compared to 1.6 from side conversions), right?
For those who want to know what happens if you tell both bride and groom you love them, I’ve Echoed it here:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix?fromEchoId=13226613
I’d be interested to know if anyone has successfully ended the wedding through objecting instead of sabotage as, for obvious reasons, this did not happen for Hebediah.
edited by Hark DeGaul on 12/20/2017
[quote=Hark DeGaul]For those who want to know what happens if you tell both bride and groom you love them, I’ve Echoed it here:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix?fromEchoId=13226613[/quote]
thank you for biting the bullet for all of us who wanted to know what this option does. if it’s any consolation, standing up and announcing in front of hundreds of people that you’re hoping for a threesome with the royal pair is probably the bravest and most adventurous thing anyone in that cathedral has ever done. instigating revolution in hell doesn’t hold a candle to this, and wanting to go to war with presbyterate while marrying the next prester is merely a pale contender
What’s the math for that? You’d still need to spend lots of actions to get enough Romantic Notions for conversions, so they overall MW per action should be low (compared to 1.6 from side conversions), right?[/quote]
Sorry, meant preparations for such a grind.
Napkin math: 100AP to get 1500 RN (preparation stage); when needed, convert those RNs to Visions by 50 which means 30AP to get 60 MW, move those Visions to Documents with 6x6 more AP for 93 MW (is ToT to Docs really 1-8?). So an average of 153 MW for 66 AP.
You can stop at Memories, convert those Docs to Kisses to Favours for more MW or convert the ToT to EI.
I grind honey when I’m too busy/tired and just want to waste the AP as fast as possible.
In my many tests, I’ve never received more than 8 CP from side converting ToT.
edited by dov on 12/20/2017