The Mayoral Election 1897

…hmm, sixty coins for Shoshana will do nicely; I’ll switch and provide evidence of same as soon as the money’s resting in my account. Heh.

(I’m half persuaded that Mrs Plenty and her soothsayer are in league to go halves if either of them wins, anyhow; their plans aren’t necessarily incompatible!)

Hmm! Surprised that I can’t put my New, Improved, and Highly Enthusiastic support for Madame Shoshana on my mantelpiece.

Nevertheless, that I’ve recieved a rosette from her campaign is down in my journal.
edited by Teaspoon on 7/25/2019

[quote=Teaspoon]Hmm! Surprised that I can’t put my New, Improved, and Highly Enthusiastic support for Madame Shoshana on my mantelpiece.

Nevertheless, that I’ve recieved a rosette from her campaign is down in my journal.
edited by Teaspoon on 7/25/2019[/quote]
Yay! ^^

Is there a limit to the number of times that one can switch allegiance to candidates, does anyone know? While of course one can only receive one (free) item from the first candidate, is that right?

You can get all three of the candidate items by spending Reputations to switch if that’s what you’re thinking of doing (with Fate to get the extra gifts, of course). Although if you’re willing to wait until next year, they’ll be 10 Fate cheaper.
edited by silurica on 7/25/2019

[quote=silurica]You can get all three of the candidate items by spending Reputations to switch if that’s what you’re thinking of doing (with Fate to get the extra gifts, of course). Although if you’re willing to wait until next year, they’ll be 10 Fate cheaper.
edited by silurica on 7/25/2019[/quote]

Wait, so one were to choose a candidate then switch, the reward at the end would be only that of the candidate that you chose first, that of the one that you switched to, or both? And how much reputation does it cost to switch, because I hoarded enough reputation to get the contrarian in a second term. Is it an opportunity card? And my final question, does it involve any fate?

[quote=Mr. Manticore]
Wait, so one were to choose a candidate then switch, the reward at the end would be only that of the candidate that you chose first, that of the one that you switched to, or both? And how much reputation does it cost to switch, because I hoarded enough reputation to get the contrarian in a second term. Is it an opportunity card? And my final question, does it involve any fate?[/quote]
You don’t &quotget&quot or &quotreceive&quot any gifts, not automatically. Having a chosen candidate (any candidate) unlocks the ability to get one (1) free gift. Think of it like a coupon you can spend, only once, but entirely at your leisure (actually, that’s exactly what it is). The Marquee where you can get your gift lists all the possible gifts, but they all have unlock requirements - in particular, the candidate gifts require you to be supporting the corresponding candidate.

You can switch candidates as many times as you want, and it won’t affect your free gift, except in that which gift you can choose at any given moment depends on who you’re supporting at that moment. And you can grab the gift any time you feel like it (the only deadline being the election event as a whole ending, on Monday). It costs 10 reputation to switch, with no other downsides or costs (that I’m aware of).

As for Fate: that’s only necessary if you want more than your one free gift. So, for example, to get all three candidate items, you’d pick one candidate, go grab their item for free, switch to the second, go buy their item for Fate (since you only get one free gift), switch to the third and get that one for Fate too. Then switch to whoever you want to vote for, or whatever. The free gift doesn’t even have to be the first item you get (like with a real coupon, you aren’t obligated to use it.) There are also the profession items, for example - you might elect to grab one of those, whether with your free coupon or for Fate (though these are the same every year, and also never BiS, so most people don’t bother with them).

I’ve been extremely busy this week with limited time to play the game, so I was wondering did any new lore on the election show up this week in the end? Did the outcomes of any of the flash lays change, or new options appear on the candidate cards?

I have found no new lore. There are now fate options on the cards like last year, but past that it is the same.

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edited by Vlad on 7/26/2019

My feelings are pretty close to yours! Except I don’t trust Virginia’s academic interests as far as I could throw them, and Shoshana has earned a grudging respect for the research she puts into her insights into the uncanny.

There are three candidates’ threads in the election subforum, that have probably explain everything there is to know about the candidates’ so far. I suggest visiting them as it will help make a decision!Th
I am voting for Shoshana because a) she is benevolent: her goal in London so far has been to stop the Fingerkings and to provide closure to people who have experienced loss b) she truly has the gift: even though she does cold readings, her relationship with the occult is genuine c) the calamity she predicts for London is real and she has thought of valid ways to attempt to avert it. Oh and d) Sinning Jenny trusts her.

Of course her scatterbrained persona is a minus, but when the above pros and cons are weighed against Virginia the murderous devil or Ms Plenty’s rather uninspiring plans, there was really no dilemma for me.

[quote=silurica]You can get all three of the candidate items by spending Reputations to switch if that’s what you’re thinking of doing (with Fate to get the extra gifts, of course). Although if you’re willing to wait until next year, they’ll be 10 Fate cheaper.
edited by silurica on 7/25/2019[/quote]

Thanks, silurica! Actually I was more interested to see all the choices on the candidates’ cards, and have all the lore in my journal, but at the glacially slow rate that I’m drawing the candidates cards themselves, I might not bother, and just read the wiki. :) (If these cards are drawn at the frequent frequency, I’d hate to see the standard frequency… )

[quote=Dudebro Pyro]
You don’t &quotget&quot or &quotreceive&quot any gifts, not automatically. Having a chosen candidate (any candidate) unlocks the ability to get one (1) free gift. Think of it like a coupon you can spend, only once, but entirely at your leisure (actually, that’s exactly what it is). The Marquee where you can get your gift lists all the possible gifts, but they all have unlock requirements - in particular, the candidate gifts require you to be supporting the corresponding candidate.

You can switch candidates as many times as you want, and it won’t affect your free gift, except in that which gift you can choose at any given moment depends on who you’re supporting at that moment. And you can grab the gift any time you feel like it (the only deadline being the election event as a whole ending, on Monday). It costs 10 reputation to switch, with no other downsides or costs (that I’m aware of).

As for Fate: that’s only necessary if you want more than your one free gift. So, for example, to get all three candidate items, you’d pick one candidate, go grab their item for free, switch to the second, go buy their item for Fate (since you only get one free gift), switch to the third and get that one for Fate too. Then switch to whoever you want to vote for, or whatever. The free gift doesn’t even have to be the first item you get (like with a real coupon, you aren’t obligated to use it.) There are also the profession items, for example - you might elect to grab one of those, whether with your free coupon or for Fate (though these are the same every year, and also never BiS, so most people don’t bother with them).[/quote]

Ahhh, so if you intend to switch all along, your first choice of candidate doesn’t have to be the free gift one, I see! Thank you for this explanation, Dudebro Pyro, that’s very helpful!

Sort of unrelated, is my memory failing or in the very first election, did we get a profession item and a candidate item? If so, it seems a little unfair to newer players! I’ve tried to find the answer on the wiki but a) I can’t (probably looking in the wrong place) and b) it keeps crashing on me (that’s my old phone at fault). However I could totally have bought them and forgotten all about it… Just wondering, not really important.

I don’t think we did - I campaigned for Jenny that year, and I have the boots but not the nun.

I don’t think we did - I campaigned for Jenny that year, and I have the boots but not the nun.[/quote]

Hm, I must have been flush that year and bought both the tomb-colonist and the pen. :) Good to know!

Which day is last to cash in Reputation in Electoral Opportunism storylet?

[quote=fafer.forums]Which day is last to cash in Reputation in Electoral Opportunism storylet?[/quote]The last day of the Election is Monday, July 29, and judging by past trends, it’ll likely end at around noon BST (GMT+1). I’m not sure if Electoral Opportunism will be available after that, but that’s a safe bet for cashing in Reputation.

I have taken some time to look over Mr. Huffam’s polling results, and inspected more polls created by other Londoners. It seems as if most of London has gone stark-raving mad! To summarise; Virginia appears to be taking the lead one way or another.

But let’s just go over the points again, shall we? I will shout it out again till my face turns purple; Virginia Wants Her Souls!


And perhaps so do the rest of her compatriots, after all; what care do the devils wish to provide to our souls, besides that which goes outside their soul stores? And what progress does Virginia seek to introduce to London, besides that which tightens Hell’s hold on the city?
It has been proven once, twice and many more times, that Virginia still maintains connections with Hell, and will likely treat the city as if it were a Hell business enterprise.

'Tis almost as if Hell tries to copy our own corrupt politicians by showering us with sweet promises, and every educated individual can easily discern these from a future disaster just waiting to happen, a poor bureaucratic system, designed only to further the interests of the devils, affiliated or not. At this point, I’m not entirely sure what Londoners hope to gain by voting for Virginia, besides those who suffer from a case of satanophilia, and wish to mix in further with those crafty devils.

I sold my soul before, you know? And it was hardly a profitable deal! How dare they measure my soul’s worth at a mere twelve echoes?! What they must think of me!

I think we should stick to the unofficial precedent that we should keep arguments for and against candidates in the Election subforum and leave this as a place for mechanical questions and information. Not everyone wants to read through piles of arguments while trying to find information about the Election.