It seems that the Candles do indeed correspond to something. The question is what? Who could the Forthigan and Arthur mentioned in the lessons be, and who was it that was invited?
A question: do you need your own ship to go to the Chapel of Lights, or are other means provided?
You need your own ship. I think.
[quote=an_ocelot][quote=dov]Personally, I’d mostly miss the high level Wine items, which will not be easy to restock.[/quote]I’m no NiteBrite, but I did sell all that for Cider, so it’s kind of old hat for me.
I’ll miss the Mountain-Sherds more.[/quote]
Yeah, I’ve got two Sherds…I’m not really sure what I can do with them that will help toward Seeking other than selling them. One was a lucky draw from one of the Fate donation storylets.
I just sold out all of my low, mid, and low-upper tier items to get some cash going. I netted around 2k in echoes; I’m still holding onto some of the rarer items for now to see if I can use them to get other things I’ll need before the great sundering.
However, now I have 50k in cryptic clues. I’m gonna upconvert for Enigmas so that I can create the Impossible Theroem before I go full poverty, and use the resulting notability to force draw Opportunity in order to create more Tears / Blood while I grind and burn.
…I have achieved the First. Arthur. On the last day of Alexis…[li]
edited by The Dark Gentleman on 6/15/2016
stares at spreadsheet The real question is, will I be lucky enough in drowning secrets that I will have enough cash left over to buy an Overgoat and not have to sacrifice my Ubergoat. (Classic short story would take way too long, oh my gosh, why wasn’t I stockpiling Trade Secrets? Well, because I was trading them for Enigmas, true.)
You could also, if so inclined, try sacrificing a Daughter. Which may even be replaceable.
I do draw lines even in Seeking (hence I did not have Cerise’s candle back in the day)!
Oh boy, I’m off the forums for a while and what dyo I find upon returning but that SMEN has also returned? Methinks my two lonely candles may need some company…although it may yet take a while to progress…
My Seeker will likely be sacrificing her Daughter, if/when she get that far (of course, that also depends on some other lingering stories first) - if it helps, I can echo the results when it happens? Might be a while off though.
[quote=an_ocelot]I started figuring out how many echoes I’d gain from selling all the stuff I need to ditch for Winking Isle and how many levels that would get me via Appalling Secrets, and I might as well share my work:
Appalling Secrets and Winking Isle spreadsheet.[/quote]
Thanks for sharing the numbers! I think I’ll see how far I can get. Does anyone know if getting candles other than cerise’s gives Seeking?
The SMEN option in Heart’s Desire remains unchanged. No additional SMEN.
[quote=an_ocelot]I started figuring out how many echoes I’d gain from selling all the stuff I need to ditch for Winking Isle and how many levels that would get me via Appalling Secrets, and I might as well share my work:
Appalling Secrets and Winking Isle spreadsheet.[/quote]This has been updated with a demonstration that echo-wise, Appalling Secrets are DEFINITELY the way to go on the Seeking Road. Determining action cost is left as an exercise for the reader.
Its kind of a missed opportunity that go north on seeking road doesn’t lock with needing exactly 77 smen. Like, imagine the dread of worrying you might overshoot 77 accidentally and then get locked out forever unable to lower your progress.
Keep in mind that your spreadsheet as it is now uses a pretty pessimistic expected cost for each level (1/p rounded up instead of 1/p), and you don’t need any secrets to get from level 27 to 28, just a goat or a story. With just those changes it should cost around 80±30k secrets (where the ±30k gives one standard deviation in the expected value). You should also be able to get at least the last level from marsh-mired which brings it down to 71±25k secrets. And if you know someone that can send you a rat of glory (wink), you can probably trigger the boom event and get another free level. All hope is not lost! (All hope is lost.)
(How I came by those numbers: If an event has a probability of p, then it will take you an average of 1/p attempts to succeed. The variance in the number of attempts to succeed turns out to be 2*(1-p)^2/p^2, so the variance in the cost is (cost per attempt)^2 * (variance in number of attempts). The total variance across all levels is the sum of the individual variances, and the total standard deviation of the cost is the square root of the total variance.)
Guy Scrum, yes, thank you, I forgot about level 28. And I deliberately rounded up because I like to deal in units of attempts, but I did put in a note that it’s pessimistic, thanks. (Of course I have also failed a 62% check for the third time, eating 1,001 Secrets each time, so . . . )
edited by an_ocelot on 6/16/2016
I’m now seriously considering spending a couple of weeks to push my Notability to 15 just to get the extra points to base Watchful as an Extraordinary Mind (it seems it will give me 2-3 additional percentage points for the SMEN challenges).
No one’s pointed it out here, so I’m just gonna say; Alexis posted that the Fortigan/Forthigan thing was a clue, not a typo. Welp.The Tigerman will be missed, and his mysteries will forever perplex.
H? An eighth candle, perhaps?
Now that I’ve unlocked the question…I find myself lacking a bit in Melancholy, and I find myself lacking a lot in Heartless.
After the quirk revisions, I don’t have any Taste left or I’d be getting as low as the lacre pits to grind Melancholy. I did see, however, that the Knave of Regrets has an option (marsh-mired?) that increases Melancholy. I’m guessing it’s uncapped; if not, well, there’s always the Iron Republic.
Do we know if that option is uncapped?