I’m new to this whole Person of Significant Interest thing, and I’m wondering if there’s a reliable source for Making Waves that I don’t know about? I want to get my third point of Notability to upgrade to Mystic, but I’ve spent just about everything I can spend to Make Waves, and now I’m looking at sending out however many Social Actions it’ll take to hit Making Waves 21.
Surely there’s an easier way than a few hundred Coffees at Caligula’s?
[quote=Socratease]I’m new to this whole Person of Significant Interest thing, and I’m wondering if there’s a reliable source for Making Waves that I don’t know about? I want to get my third point of Notability to upgrade to Mystic, but I’ve spent just about everything I can spend to Make Waves, and now I’m looking at sending out however many Social Actions it’ll take to hit Making Waves 21.
Surely there’s an easier way than a few hundred Coffees at Caligula’s?[/quote]
I’m relatively new to this myself, but I do know a few ways. If you still have access to the Empress’s Court, then "The Life of the Mind" will get you a CP of Making Waves per action, plus some extra goods. And if you have a Salon or an Orphanage, you can earn large amounts of Making Waves through the various social invite options on there. You can also Make Waves by doing archaeological expeditions and donating the treasure, but I think that works out to less then 1 CP per action IIRC.
And, for what it’s worth, I’m currently grinding MW, so feel free to send me half a dozen Supper Invites or Coffees if you want (link in sig).
edited by asnys on 9/11/2015
If you have 50 of any one 50p item in its category (e.g. Tale of Terror!!), they have an option to trade them for 51 of a different 50p item, which goes around in a big cycle. A number of these conversions give some Making Waves as well, so it’s a good way to convert actions into MW.
Private Suppers are limited to 5 per week, as they cost Free Evenings.
Also, don’t forget improving your BDR: Membership in God’s Editors, the Clay Sedan Chair or Respectable Landau, and membership in either The Partheneum or The Young Stags are all attainable relatively quickly after reaching POSI and added together reduce MW costs of every rank of Notability by 10.
To be more specific, for every point of Bizarre, Dreaded, or Respectable you have, you need one less level of Making Waves to increase notability. While the items with the most BDR either cost fate and/or are hard to get, it’s completely possible to amass enough for the first level or two of notability to be free. (The only two difficult item slots for gaining BDR are Home Comfort and Spouse, as the Midnighter Home Comfort is the only non-fate one with any and the only spouse with any costs a substantial amount of fate.) For example, I have something with BDR for almost every slot so each level of notability costs 25 fewer levels of MW, though I should note I do have a couple Fate items.
The only two regular (non-expanded inventory) items I can think of with more than one BDR are the Iron Republic Journal and Unfinished Hat, obtained by completing various stories accessed by ship.
edited by Optimatum on 9/11/2015
^ This is a particularly useful piece of advice.
I’ve been playing for some time now, and I am able to get to 19 B+D+R, which helps a ton with those first few points of Notability.
There are some item conversions which provide Making Waves, in addition to the 50->51 conversions. These probably won’t be your go-to source for MW, but they’re options if you need to build up some MW early on (and then use Life of the Mind to finish off the last few individual points.)
If you have an abundance of Romantic Notions, converting them to Visions of the Surface will provide a little Making Waves, as will converting the Visions into Touching Love Stories. Similarly, upgrading Tales of Terror to Extraordinary Implications, and then Extraordinary Implications to Uncanny Incunabulum will also prove Making Waves.
I’m sure there are others.
edited by Kittenpox on 9/12/2015
You can visit the Clay Quarters and assist the Academic. He only shows up 1/4 of the time, but it’s a fun area.
A Key to your Rooms above a Gambling Den can generate a good deal of Making Waves if you don’t mind Scandal and a (sometimes) sizable financial outlay.
To clarify, one option on the card it unlocks exchanges a few bottles of wine and a Night on the Town for a random but sizeable chunk of MW, a small amount of connections, and a random gain or loss of money. Choosing that option returns you to the main card right afterwards (though I heard that is currently bugged) so with enough wine and Nights on the Town you can build up MW very rapidly. This option does require 40 echoes to unlock though, so for multiple repetitions make sure to have well over the threshold in case of bad luck with the money change.
Not bugged, the behaviour of that card has been modified [cough]nerfed[cough], and I do not believe there is any evidence that it will be changed back. sob*
The rest of the advice given is sound, especially getting more BDR. There are quite a few main inventory items with more than one point of BDR, but most of them are fate-locked and require a lot of work to get.
Yes and as mentioned above, the card has sadly recently been changed or is bugged and now it does not bring you back to the card after you play that option.
So it still a nice way to get some making waves and in my cases loose some echos (only ever won once) but you can’t replay the card.
Presently I rely mainly on Heists for “maintenance” waves; that is to say, reliable waves of moderate quantity - enough to get 10 levels or so without freaking out about it or spending the whole week grinding them.
Gain access to the Flit; amass adequate Shadowy to engage in heists; we’re talking upper double digits, nothing too overwhelming.
Grow casing how you can through the related storylets; the best source of casing requires a Gang of Hoodlums, the formation of which requires playing a certain Opportunity Card storylet, enduring some decent Shadowy checks and coming up with a LOOOOT of Rostygold.
Either with your Gang of Hoodlums or simply by relying on the storylet which requires PoSI status but NOT a gang of Hoodlums (lesser, but still one of the best), build enough casing to purchase:
-An escape route.
-As many Inside Informations as you care to
Once inside, you’ll need to wait perhaps half an hour for your Heist deck to load. With a couple exceptions, these cards cannot be discarded, so having a higher-tier lodging will actually make you a much better thief. Most cards involve stat, luck or quality checks with loss of cat-like tread as a common punishment, sometimes accompanied by minor Menaces; your most common reward will be a short-term quality called Burglar’s Progress, although contraband and items that contribute to the ongoing heist also come up.
Use Inside Information whenever you can. An option that avoids a luck check is a better one, as is one that has requirements such as a high Shadowy. Don’t engage luck checks until your hand is full and you can’t get rid of any cards without doing a luck check. If a butler finds your escape route, just leave the card alone, even at the expense of your ability to draw cards. Once you have AT LEAST 5 Burglar’s Progress and preferably 7, AND you have drawn the card allowing you to complete the heist, THEN “let him” discover your escape route; you’ll gain another point of Progress (redeemable for 1 MW if you’re on the easier level of difficulty or 2 points on the harder level). From that point forth, playing the card that claims your reward (and ends the heist) IS your escape.
If you get down to one point of cat-like tread, do not engage any more luck checks, even if it means leaving without your reward. Running out can result in insta-jail. At three cat-like tread, there’s nothing wrong with luck checks, primarily those with decent odds and involving humans. Finally, you can absolutely get caught with two points of cat-like tread; some of the luck checks with better odds punish you doubly if you fail; failing a luck check to an animal can be serious business. I wouldn’t entertain luck checks with two cat-like tread until you are experienced with the cards involved and know whether failing on the card is capable of ending your heist
Some luck checks may present you with an opportunity to gain Inside Information or an Intriguing Key; in any case, hope to be able to exchange them for more progress. When the lack of items or a bad sequence of cards finally forces you into luck checks, play them with priority towards maximum chance of success. Some are just plain bad - spiders and dogs are the worst, but cats are actually good news if you have decent Connected: the Duchess.
Finally, cashing out: The best return in echoes per turn, which is potentially very high, depends on entering with minimal preparation and still gaining the necessary Burglar’s Progress with as few turns as possible. Connected:The Duchess, Dreaded, a pair of Intricate Kifers and plain old luck will all assist you; the ideal formula may yet involve one or two shots of Inside Information. You may also want to cash out with 5 progress if able, starting another heist rather than muscling the extra two points - unless you can do so very conveniently.
Waves, however, scale with your Burglar’s Progress. If you amass 20 by bringing in a LOT of Inside Information, drawing a lot of the right cards and renewing your resources by passing certain luck checks, that becomes 40 CPs of MW, which will carry you to MW level 8 from zero CPs. By heisting regularly with proper preparation, you should leave with 10+ Burglar’s Progress and gain 20 CPs of waves reasonably often; and even on a failure, you should get 25 or so Echoes for your trouble by completing a triple-bolted heist.
As has been noted, you should acquire certain items in order to lower the cost of Notability acquisition. Every point of BDR lowers the cost of your next point of Notability by 1, but every point of Notability raises the cost of a further increase by 4. So, in pushing for your eighth point of Notability, you will be at a 28 point handicap (requiring MW 48) before accounting for your BDR reductions. Even with fantastic BDR, you’re looking at a 20+ Waves requirement for that eighth point, even though you can maintain it with 16, which is achievable in 3-4 good heists before accounting for where you’re starting from that week. I recommend Salons for the big blasts of Waves when you’re trying to become more Notable. For where you are now, I would worry less about Notability and Professions for a week or two; maintain 4 MW to keep your existing Notability, and seek out a vehicle, club membership, affiliation and perhaps a decent boat. Your third point of Notability could come as cheaply as 14-20 MWs, which is achievable with Heists if you’re persistent and start early in the week.
Persons Of Some Importance have the option of setting up a Scheme from the Elegant Townhouse card. I have a salon, but an orphanage works just as well. Completing goals in your Scheme of choice will grant you a STACK of making waves.
If you can’t afford A salon/orphanage just yet, then you can use certain options on other Property Cards that require PoSI items such as Favours In High Places, or Hard Backed Labour.
Finally, like others here, I highly reccomend finding a costume that maximizes Bizarre, Dreaded, and Respectful Qualities, as well as a Club Membership, a Ship, an Affiliation and some means of Transport. The fallen london wiki has a handy guide, here.
Salon is slightly better than Orphanage in terms of efficiency, but you can change it later. Note that Orphanages allow you to buy with fate one of the best companions in the game.
Also I think that not all the lodging cards need PoSI items for the MW option. I recall one with Parabola-Linen and some PoSI items such as Nights on the Town are earned by certain professions.