Mysteries Discussion

The Mysteries thread on the Bazaar sub-forum has been used to discuss the resurrection of the Mysteries tab, but a group discussion for the answers has been put aside in favor of keeping questions on the topic left to the individual. While this is fine in of itself, I think it’s only appropriate that a thread be made so players can talk about these questions over the next year and share possible answers between one another. While the overall purpose of this thread is to surmise the potential answers for each question and generally discuss their origins in the game, the use of spoiler tags or pm requests is available should you want an additional buffer before your answers. Hopefully, we’ll be able to use this to our advantage by combining our total knowledge to solve these problems together and fill in anyone who needs extra help.

Anyway, that’s the gist of it. Feel free to add your piece into the discussion or ask for help from others. Hope this will help!

From the Mapping Fallen London thread…

I assume the name’s derivation is something like Bloomsbury - berry bush - elderberries - Elderwick.

Well to… test the waters of what is acceptable. Here is a direct answer to a question I can answer with a high degree of certainty.
The seven colors of the neathbow are [spoiler] Irrigo, Violant, Cosmogone, Peligin, Apocyan, Viric, and Gant

Source: http://thefifthcity.wikia.com/wiki/The_Neathbow[/spoiler]
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017

I see the temp programmer has added disappearing text to the tricks in Failbetter’s toolkit.

That was pretty cool to watch.

I can say with extreme pride that I knew the answer to exactly one question with no help or outside resources, and I have semi-confident guesses for another 4! I’m halfway to one, and I know how I could find out one more. I think I’m doing alright, here!

Sidenote//Actual question: For a Hero of The Season of Revolutions, my first thought was a certain character from the “Tomb-Colonies.” I’m being as vague as possible, but does that sound good, as an option?

For the Empress’ issue, here’s a quick list of all of Queen Victoria’s children and their real-world titles, pulled from wikipedia:

  • Victoria, German Empress[/li][li]King Edward VII of the United Kingdom[/li][li]Alice, Grand Duchess of Hesse and by Rhine[/li][li]Alfred, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha[/li][li]Helena, Princess Christian of Schleswig-Holstein[/li][li]Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll[/li][li]Prince Arthur, Duke of Connaught and Strathearn[/li][li]Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany[/li][li]Beatrice, Princess Henry of Battenberg

Speculation:

I know Victoria was featured prominently in The Empress’ Shadow story from last Christmas. Alfred is The Brooding Captain, from The Gift fate-locked story.

edited by James Sinclair on 7/18/2017

[quote=Teaspoon]I see the temp programmer has added disappearing text to the tricks in Failbetter’s toolkit.

That was pretty cool to watch.[/quote]

[li]
Actually, that’s been in since the original launch. This Mysteries tab is almost exactly the same as the original, though with the functionality to see random, unattributed answers from other players removed.

The Empress’ children have their identities spelled out on a lore wiki, and the specific one that died is mentioned in The Gift.

Moloch Street and Blythenhale, additionally, are near-certainly mapped; one by dint of a character that lives there, and the other by a quick trip to Wikipedia.

[/li][li]Really? I just played The Gift and don’t recall that. Can you PM me a refresher so I know where to look in my journal entries?[/li][li]

Just as soon as I was going to take a break … let’s see. If any of these goes too far, just let me know, but I’ll try to be vague with these.

  • Working man’s friend has been known for a while. We brought it up during the election.[/li][li]Another hero of the season of revolutions is mentioned in a specific Ambition. I won’t say which one.[/li][li]Who opened the mirrors is mentioned in the conclusion of the Season of Revolutions.

Otherwise, the only clue I know of for May is the book in Calendar Code.

Great start on the &quotVictoria’s issue&quot question, Mr. Sinclair!

I’ll add only this:

I believe Leopold is the creature in the basement of the Shuttered Palace, to whom you can give honey.

I know I’ve heard something about the working man before, but I cannot find it and it is driving me to distraction. If this has to do with the election, could someone point me to the right candidate?

[quote=Ian Hart]Well to… test the waters of what is acceptable. Here is a direct answer to a question I can answer with a high degree of certainty.
The seven colors of the neathbow are [spoiler] Irrigo, Violant, Cosmogone, Peligin, Apocyan, Viric, and Gant

Source: http://thefifthcity.wikia.com/wiki/The_Neathbow[/spoiler]
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017
edited by Ian Hart on 7/18/2017[/quote]

Thank you! You found the one color name I could not.

So… are many of these entirely Fate-locked? Like the dead royal being mentioned in The Gift, and who opened the mirror being mentioned in the Season of Revolutions conclusion. I love Fallen London but there’s no way I’m buying three random Exceptional Stories for a yet-unknown bauble.

I say we should just be forward about answers, and use spoiler tags accordingly.

The Bishop of Southwark’s barn is in the Labyrinth of Tigers.It’s where he keeps his wings-of-thunder bat!

I’ll point you toward real-world uses of the phrase, toward Halloween, and toward one candidate’s relationship with revolutionaries.

Do you think we get double credit for two heroes of the season of revolutions? :P

[quote=Catherine Raymond]Great start on the &quotVictoria’s issue&quot question, Mr. Sinclair!

I’ll add only this:

<snip>[/quote]

Pretty sure that’s not him.

[quote=Anchovies]
The Bishop of Southwark’s barn is in the Labyrinth of Tigers.It’s where he keeps his wings-of-thunder bat![/quote]
Assuming that’s really what it is, of course.

A certain someone who passed up NORTH once speculated on this as well. [spoiler]Spacemarine9, gods rest their soul, suggested that the Wings-of-Thunder Bat was actually a master in disguise, most likely Mr Hearts/Apples under another title. I mean, the guy hands you the Formula of Empyrean Redolence, so there’s the possibility they’re helping you with your experiments to spice up their sex life / eating habits.[/spoilers]
edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/18/2017

Thank you to everyone who has posted hints or speculation so far; I’m really enjoying tracking down these references. If only it were easier to search through my journal! I really ought to copy-and-paste my journal to a word doc as I add to it. As it is, it’s hundreds of pages of HTML, making it less an Intriguer’s Compendium and more of a Journal of Metaphysical Conjecture.

Anyway, here’s some more info I was able to find:

For &quotWhat do the Fingerkings Want?&quot, there are numerous hints to this, but here’s a good one:

Use an Implacable Detective’s Business Card to Locate a Deranged Medium; completing the case offers what seems to be a good hint. The information is better if you get a Notable Success, and also if you visit Mirror-Marches while pursuing the case and look into an Ivory Frame.

For &quotWhat happened to the working man’s friend?&quot, I don’t have a definite answer, but I did find this: http://spartacus-educational.com/CHwatson.htm . It correlates with the icon for this question in the Mysteries tab. Interesting…

The Working Man’s Friend is a tricky one, so I will give a single hint:

Look into the newspaper

The doors of the Bazzar have been rather difficult for me to find. The first four can be seen once you have a little star next to your name in Slowcake’s, but I have no idea where to begin with the other three.

just one question from me and ill be on my way.

when they speak of the season of revolutions are they referring to the in game season of fate stories?.

I ask because im playing through that season right now and it would be nice to know that its not talking some in world season ive never heard of.