[quote=Isaac Zienfried]Huh, that’s a definite possibility.
I’m hoping FB doesn’t just recycle the "hijacked by Anarchists" scandal from last year, but we’ll see, won’t we?[/quote]
The Contrarian is an actual Revolutionary who was supported by black banner waving Revolutionaries from the start. Whatever happened, it wasn’t just "Revolutionaries move in and take over." The DTC’s revolutionary acquaintances are more like those former friends from the Bishop’s cavalry officer days who kept popping up.
Yes and no. He is, but he doesn’t subscribe to the "we need to simply destroy all natural law and plunge existence into absolute chaos." He’s a more practical Revolutionary, which puts him at odds with the bulk of them. edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/2/2017
Well, the DTC is losing. Feducci, most alarmingly considering he’s both an agent of the Presbyterate and a cheerfully murderous immortal, is leading.
The DTC and the Implacable Detective share many of the same goals. The detective has a different way to go about making a “a city that works”, as she calls it, but there’s no doubt her campaign will make lives better for the common citizen. Has already done so, in fact. Feducci, by contrast, is everything the DTC’s campaign wishes to stand against.
Would any of you consider switching sides, as a coalition government to prevent the truly horrendous candidate from getting in?
I would ask her supporters the same. If a coalition is unofficial, then we should all throw official support behind the candidate who most wishes to fight injustice and help the common citizens of London. That is unquestionably our Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.
However, if a coalition were officially recognized, such that, with enough support, FBG combines their campaigns into one with (for instance) both DTC’s values and determination and the Detective’s logistics and efficiency… I wholeheartedly acknowledge that would be the best election result for the good of all London.
A new Secret and Investigation of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner
A young, green-eyed lady of immaculate dress sits and sips her tea in the corner. "Oh, aren’t I lucky to meet you? An acquaintance said you might find this an fascinating read." She slides an envelope across the table to you before she finishes her tea. She gives you a playful smile as she takes her leave. When alone you unfold the message and find a description of a recent visit to the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner’s office.
A skeleton crew maintains the headquarters, while her followers march. Anarchists have taken the opportunity to surround the Campaigner and express their dissatisfaction.
"You learned nothing from last years’ debacle! London can’t be won your way. Why campaign if you won’t win?" The Inflammatory Revolutionary looms over her, fingers balling into fists. An awkwardly dressed Rubbery Man scurries before the Campaigner, pathetically waving the Revolutionary away.
The Campaigner puts her hand on its shoulder and shakes her head. "Thank you, Jeremy. But I can handle this." She takes a step forward; the Revolutionaries take two step back. She speaks like thunder: "I’ve seen how you treat your friends. You think I’d ever forget John? I campaign against all injustice, great and small. Now go!"
The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner’s offices smell faintly of honey. The stench is more pungent the nearer one draws to the cellars. No one seems concerned about your descent – the reasons for which soon become apparent. At the foot of the stairs is a line of dishevelled young men: a contingent of Young Stags. They straighten up like a regiment caught slouching by their commanding officer. A few offer playful salutes.
There is a creak on the step behind you; a hand on your shoulder. You turn: Chuffy McAvoy-Dauntless presses a finger to your lips and shakes his head. "Her Upstairs and I argue like braying asses, but she taught me the best of what I know. No one’ll come near if we’re here. Mum’s the word. Or Grandmum." He presses past you, to join his comrades in the honey-smelling dark.
[quote=Akernis] A skeleton crew maintains the headquarters, while her followers march. Anarchists have taken the opportunity to surround the Campaigner and express their dissatisfaction.
"You learned nothing from last years’ debacle! London can’t be won your way. Why campaign if you won’t win?" The Inflammatory Revolutionary looms over her, fingers balling into fists. An awkwardly dressed Rubbery Man scurries before the Campaigner, pathetically waving the Revolutionary away.
The Campaigner puts her hand on its shoulder and shakes her head. "Thank you, Jeremy. But I can handle this." She takes a step forward; the Revolutionaries take two step back. She speaks like thunder: "I’ve seen how you treat your friends. You think I’d ever forget John? I campaign against all injustice, great and small. Now go!"
[quote=DeserterKalak]Well, the DTC is losing. Feducci, most alarmingly considering he’s both an agent of the Presbyterate and a cheerfully murderous immortal, is leading.
The DTC and the Implacable Detective share many of the same goals. The detective has a different way to go about making a "a city that works", as she calls it, but there’s no doubt her campaign will make lives better for the common citizen. Has already done so, in fact. Feducci, by contrast, is everything the DTC’s campaign wishes to stand against.
Would any of you consider switching sides, as a coalition government to prevent the truly horrendous candidate from getting in?[/quote]
Given that the Campaigner is the one who is getting endorsed by the current Mayor, perhaps it’s the Detective’s supporters who should switch sides? I can safely attest that the Campaigner got a fair number of new recruits in the last few days. Emphasis on new - they have very little career so they don’t register much in the polls. I think we have momentum.
Sigh, you come over here. No you come over here. This is how nothing changes.
You know what I want? I want to truly try to merge the two factions at this point.
The Dauntless wants to clean up licensing. Clean up shady gin distillers, soul dealers, and landlords. Who knows the law backwards and fowards? Who could help root out this evil? The Implacable Detective.
The Implacable Detective wants to help her officers. Get those who have fallen on hard times back on the street where they can do some good again. Who is the person who is already helping care for these people? The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.
Imagine the power of these two women working together! The blue right hand of the Implacable creating a better law system and creating good, true coppers to keep chaos off the streets. The white left hand of the Dauntless fighting exploitation and providing a more gentle touch to what might be considered an iron rule of law.
This is something we can make happen. Couldn’t we at least try?
[quote=WinterIV]Sigh, you come over here. No you come over here. This is how nothing changes.
You know what I want? I want to truly try to merge the two factions at this point.
The Dauntless wants to clean up licensing. Clean up shady gin distillers, soul dealers, and landlords. Who knows the law backwards and fowards? Who could help root out this evil? The Implacable Detective.
The Implacable Detective wants to help her officers. Get those who have fallen on hard times back on the street where they can do some good again. Who is the person who is already helping care for these people? The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.
Imagine the power of these two women working together! The blue right hand of the Implacable creating a better law system and creating good, true coppers to keep chaos off the streets. The white left hand of the Dauntless fighting exploitation and providing a more gentle touch to what might be considered an iron rule of law.
This is something we can make happen. Couldn’t we at least try?[/quote]
This guy gets it. Coalitions are nothing new in politics. Let’s actualy have them join forces against Feducchi, temper out the bad points of each of them and use the good! London wins as a whole, we avoid snek people and honey wells, and we get to see Feducchi fall flat on his face, and at the end of the day, is that last one not the worthiest of goals? (Maybe someone sould make a thread asking Failbetter for them to join forces?) edited by Kylestien on 7/3/2017
Under the current rules and voting system there can only be one winner, not two.
I’m supporting the Campaigner and I’m not changing. We have the superior platform, we have the broader base of support, and we have Jenny’s endorsement. So, if defeating Feducci is what you most want to do, I suggest you switch over to us.
[quote=dov]
So can we deduce that the late March’s name is "John"?[/quote]Yep. Quite possibly John Cassell, a noted temperance campaigner and advocate for the working class, as well as a deeply religious man and a coffee merchant, all consistent with what we knew of March.
Under the current rules and voting system there can only be one winner, not two.
I’m supporting the Campaigner and I’m not changing. We have the superior platform, we have the broader base of support, and we have Jenny’s endorsement. So, if defeating Feducci is what you most want to do, I suggest you switch over to us.[/quote]
But these things ARE mutable at this point. To pull back the veil, I think we both know that Chuffy and the Dauntless were not related until this thread happened. Things can change.
And let’s face it, both factions are in trouble at this point. Why shouldn’t we try something really really stupid? What do we have to lose?
There’s not going to be any coalition. That’s not how these elections work. You can’t just conjure up some new unicorn coalition candidate.
Our platform is superior, our candidate is doing better under pressure (she sure shut the anarchists up, didn’t she?), and we have a broader base of support (Clay Men and Rubberies and Chuffy). I think the Campaigner’s support is growing and will grow, while the Detective’s is stalled out.
[quote=dov][quote=Akernis] A skeleton crew maintains the headquarters, while her followers march. Anarchists have taken the opportunity to surround the Campaigner and express their dissatisfaction.
"You learned nothing from last years’ debacle! London can’t be won your way. Why campaign if you won’t win?" The Inflammatory Revolutionary looms over her, fingers balling into fists. An awkwardly dressed Rubbery Man scurries before the Campaigner, pathetically waving the Revolutionary away.
The Campaigner puts her hand on its shoulder and shakes her head. "Thank you, Jeremy. But I can handle this." She takes a step forward; the Revolutionaries take two step back. She speaks like thunder: "I’ve seen how you treat your friends. You think I’d ever forget John? I campaign against all injustice, great and small. Now go!"
So can we deduce that the late March’s name is "John"?[/quote]
…You know, after that little bit in the spoiler, I don’t get how anyone can support someone other than the DTC. That’s just amazing.
I would ask her supporters the same. If a coalition is unofficial, then we should all throw official support behind the candidate who most wishes to fight injustice and help the common citizens of London. That is unquestionably our Dauntless Temperance Campaigner.[/quote]
Obviously should be the candidate who has the most votes that people switch to, because obviously that’s what gives the best chance of success. Of course, if you value sticking to your principles more than you value achieving positive outcomes, then by all means, let’s all start learning the Presbyterate’s word for "mayor". I’m sure your gin-addled friends will do just wonderfully under Feducci’s reign, and that in the end, they’ll be grateful you didn’t compromise and vote for the anti-corruption public safety ticket.
As Anne has repeatedly pointed out, we’ve obtained a very large number of late-comers and defectors due to our rather spirited letter-writing campaign. I’m not sure if we have more than the Detective, but I do know the numbers released are deceptive because many of our people are still building their election careers.
EDIT: That’s why if we’re going to have a coalition, it can’t be unofficial, because an unofficial one will just result in bickering over which candidate is absorbed into the other. We’ll need to get a good thread going that deliberately states many of us fine campaign contributors will be approaching our candidates in-character and suggesting a coalition. Maybe FB will decide to play along by the end of the week. Maybe. edited by Isaac Zienfried on 7/3/2017
I honestly don’t understand why the stronger party should dissolve into the weaker party, reducing their chances, based solely on the promise of a totally awesome letter campaign that’s surely given a 10 point spike in the polls that’s made the poll post obsolete and incorrect and made her "slim" chance into a certainty overnight. Calling it "bickering" implies there’s actually a rational argument for the other proposal.
[quote=Isaac Zienfried]
…You know, after that little bit in the spoiler, I don’t get how anyone can support someone other than the DTC. That’s just amazing.[/quote]
Just wait till people spot that by voting DTC they could well be voting for Jeremy as mayoral assistant… :-)