Election 1895 Begins!


For shame, Madame Detective! Turning on one’s own supporters in the middle of an election! For shame!

Is this the behavior that we can expect from a ID administration distrust and disarray at the first sign of trouble? Does she even know the truth about those supporting her? One this is certain, this is not behavior suitable for the Mayor of London.

A week has passed, and our Rightful Mayor Feducci has already begun the process of moving into his Mayoral office. London is well on its way towards a bright, Fair future!

You can have a mob with you at all times. The debate doesn’t seem to mind.
Anyway, who else would go there to hear the debate?

I want so badly to wave this around the forums, shouting &quotVAUNTED AND RESPECTED LONDONERS COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE CAMPAIGNER,&quot but I feel that would be remarkably crass and entirely disrespectful to the point of that post.

…I’m still a little exuberant, though.

Is it better not to engage in Debates until you’ve already reached 10 Influence the other ways?

Your influence doesn’t automatically rise after a debate - you get winnings to spend in a storylet, and you probably won’t get enough from one debate to raise influence. So I would say debate away and use the resources when you want.

I still haven’t been able to draw the card that lets me pick a candidate. Anyone know the frequency on it?

You don’t need a card. There is a pinned storylet.

I’d like to say that I’ve officially changed sides, from Detective to the Dauntless. I had something of a difficult time choosing between them at the beginning, and Jenny’s support plus Dauntless denouncing the revolutionaries in her updated Flash Lay was enough to convince me to switch sides.

The only character of mine considering changing candidate is Jack. He’s with the Detective right now, as a strict ‘Licentiate’ adhering to judicial executions. Totally above board… probably. (He’s doing a Dexter)

But Ms Dauntless has taken up with Clay men and Rubberies now, and she’s got some brass on her to step up to her own fights like she did. Commendable.

Plus… she seems to have a place for honey and larks after all. Albeit a dimly lit subterranean place for it. Perhaps she will compromise on vices if it’s kept behind closed doors. Cellar doors. So that polite society marches on; in denial perhaps, but relatively fenced off from unfortunate habits.

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edited by Shalinoth on 7/3/2017

I wish we had graphs.

Like, solid numbers. Does Feducci have a fifty-point lead or a three point lead? What’s the spread? Would a coalition even equal more than fifty percent?

We’re kind of in the dark about all this, which I imagine is deliberate for the sake of suspense.

Yeah we get a poll half way that indicates in vague literary terms who stands where, but not by how much and whether it’s worth trying to change hearts and minds (or alts).

Still, quite fun! Now if only my Agitator would stop getting mobbed :P

Feducci is literally measuring the drapes, but that’s probably his arrogant personality being put on full display.

My read is that support for the Detective has plateaued, while the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner’s campaign has much more room to grow thanks to the support of many different types of voters:

  1. Jenny first voters.
  2. Clay & Rubbery rights voters.
  3. Late deciding voters (who have been breaking our way)

Some of these voters will no doubt come out of Feducci’s support. We Campaigner supporters can beat Feducci by winning more late deciding voters and persuading Feducci’s less enthusiastic voters to switch to us. It’s very doable, I’ve done it a number of times already and it’s going to a bit less difficult now.
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edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

I’m both liking and not liking this development.
On the one hand, all the suspicions we’ve been debunking have been permanently and solidly debunked,
and we have both the support of Rubberies and Clay men, apparently.

On the other hand, I’m afraid that the only thing that’s keeping the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner from being a straight up Mary Sue are the lack of popular support and the existence of the Honey-Well, neither of which are necessarily big problems.

Don’t take this the wrong way - I’ve been supporting her from the beginning and I will until the bitter end, but I kind of feel that Failbetter aren’t giving the DTC the flaws and depths she deserves because they want her to catch up to the other two candidates.

It sure is hecking nice to rub it in everyone’s face, though. We have the bloody rubberies, nothing can stop us now.

I think, given the FL fanbase, that being a Mary Sue is actually a significant disadvantage in this setting. Insofar as many people have a lot of fun with the “ooh, cartoon evil!” parts of the setting.

I’ve read her story this way: her flaws are also her virtues.

Sometimes you have people who are just basically good - the Soft Hearted Widow is perhaps the best example. Such people exist in real life - I’ve met them.
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edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

Do you have a Rubbery Candidate? No? Then you can be stopped. But nothing could stop a Rubbery Candidate. Nothing except another Rubbery Candidate. Or two.

Fair points on the Dauntless lack of flaws.
The Depthless Temperance Campaigner! …I jest.

But to be fair when your entire platform is Prim and Proper you don’t go into it with skeletons in the closet? The Clays and Rubberies don’t have skeletons either, so they have that in common. While she has spine enough for all of them, mind you, when challenged.

I’m keeping my three characters voting for three separate candidates anyway, I think.

I really like her as she’s turning out to be exactly how I imagined her to be when I proposed her as a candidate.

I think it’s nice the writers aren’t inventing character flaws on the fly to try and add fake balance. Some candidates have fewer flaws than others - it’s good to know.
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edited by Anne Auclair on 7/3/2017

The concept of “Mary Sues” is an interesting one, and one I’d happily discuss elsewhere, but I will point out that, last year, the only skeleton to emerge from the Bishop’s closet was the dubious attribution of some love poems.

Is there a guide for how debates work? I accepted one and didn’t get any info on how to proceed from there