Between the recent increase in maximum faction renown and the addition of continuations to some of the dreams (which may or may not have purgatory states similar to WtTS), I began to wonder if a new set of renown items (with some of the new end-game stats) might be waiting at the end of the grind to 55 renown.
So, I began wondering what new stats each faction’s item might give were there to be such items.
Bohemians: SA or MA
Constables: Mithridacy would be my guess
Criminals: KT
Hell: AotRS seems almost a given
Revolutionaries: KT, APoC, or Mithridacy
Rubbery Men: Would almost have to be SA
Society: APoC or KT
The Church: The atheist that is me wants to say Mithridacy
The Docks: MA
The Great Game: APoC, but perhaps that would be TOO obvious (like SA for the RM)
Tomb-Colonists: Not sure, AotRS, SA, GW?
Urchins: GW was my guess based on the grubby urchin’s lab contributions
Come speculate with me, or don’t. Either way is fine.
It doesn’t seem too terrible to me, personally. The grind from 0-40 was 820cp, 40-55 is 720cp. At 28cp every 7 favours, that’s ~26 times. To each their own, though.
The hard part of reaching 55 isn’t the favors, it’s the stat level. You need moods.
My renown with most factions is in the low 50s but not at 55 (except for Church).
Maybe with new BiS items I can see whether I can push any of those higher… but at the time I got them as high as I could with BiS + Mood. (Missed the dangerous overcap from flint, unfortunately…)
I’m still not sure how I got Church to 55; I must have had a different profession at the time. Anyway, to get to renown 55, you have to get your stats to 324. I can’t do that for any of my stats right now…
I should math out whether that’s possible for me with optimal choice of spouse, club, and profession. Not willing to switch Destinies with fate to get those stats. But if it takes switching profession, club, or spouse, then I might do that.
[edit] I do have 55 renown: church, and I haven’t run into a hint that there’s a hidden reward for it. I could have just missed it, I totally wasn’t looking - I just got all my renowns as high as I could get them, at one point, because what else was left to grind.
(Well, the Heptagoat. Working on it…) edited by Amalgamate on 8/25/2020
Assuming we overcap (old way in braces), this are the current caps:
Watchful: 328 (331)
Shadowy: 323 (326)
Dangerous: 315 (318)
Persuasive: 328 (331)
Conclusion:
Watchful and Persuasive might require a very specific set of items, but with BiS it’s possible to reach the required quality for 55 renown.
For Shadowy this (currently) only works if you have overcapped it the old way.
Dangerous doesn’t work even if we add the +3 by overcapping the old way.
Clarification: I’ve just taken a look at the max bonus the wiki says without checking for problems like items from different ambitions required for BiS. (to be honest, I was to lazy to check this in detail)
I’m still not done, but I’ve been checking against profession and ambition issues. I may just sleep on it.
Shadowy and Dangerous can be conclusively stated as presently impossible under any circumstances. edited by Kaunisenkeli on 8/25/2020 edited by Kaunisenkeli on 8/25/2020
These are the renowns I have on my main. Some while ago, before railroad and ambition finale, but after overcapping each stat to 215, I started collecting the favours and moods, then using moods in a way that each mood could be used for as many favour trades as possible.
So if I didn´t miss anything, these should be the final levels you can have with moods and 215 stats at the moment:
Renown: Bohemians 53/55
Renown: Constables 52/55
Renown: Criminals 51/55
Renown: Hell 53/55
Renown: Revolutionaries 51/55 (yields 795 proscribed material for 3 rev favours ^^)
Renown: Rubbery Men 53/55
Renown: Society 52/55
Renown: The Church 55/55
Renown: The Docks 52/55
Renown: The Great Game 53/55
Renown: Tomb-Colonies 52/55
Renown: Urchins 51/55 edited by El Mar on 8/25/2020 edited by El Mar on 8/25/2020
That depends on profession, spouse, ambition, and destiny, since those affect the bonuses. E.g. I have the Shadowy ones higher than that since my Destiny is shadowy. And whether you were around for past seasonal items, or what you’re willing to spend Fate on. edited by Amalgamate on 8/26/2020