approximations from headcannons, assumes jenny is reasonably skilled at estimating her limits. All debates removed from jovial contrarian.
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Sinning jenny:
Yes. If I can’t get the law through, i’ll make them volunteer anyways through blackmail, poison, seduction, and letting it slip that they’re well-informed about the vake to particularly ruthless hunters.
The Jovial Contrarian:
No, weekly taxes are highly impractical. I’d consider making ownership of overgoats require an expensive permit, which will suffice to redistribute the wealth. How often do you think the permit should need renewing, is the question. Well, that and "will it actually make a difference, given the numbers of overgoat owners." Care to debate me on that
The bishop:
I will ban overgoats, ubergoats, and all other hell-goats.
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Sinning Jenny:
No. While it would be possible to do this, there really isn’t enough to go around, and more-than-half of it would promptly vanish into the black markets if we did that. Even taxing it will be hard, though i’ll try to do that. Maybe making it so any citizen can seize hesperian cider if it’s unregistered? that would work well.
Jovial Contrarian:
We will provide medical care, but hesperian cider is absurdly hard to get, and harder to regulate. i propose an alternative, though not a permanant one- we offer a verification service at a hefty price. any government verified cider is the real deal, while black market stuff may be too expensive.
Perhaps we will get some for the hospital, though. you need regular cider consumption to become immortal, but a small dose can postpone even permanant death, or even cure diseases that otherwise inevitably make you forever gone.
The bishop:
What is the immortallity of apples when devils are stealing the immortality of the soul. how messed up are your priorities, man!
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Sinning Jenny:
Yes-but-no.the church is a potent and powerful institution, but it should not rule over london on its own. the church has failed the downtrodden, and giving them another try is not fair to the poor victims. But neither should being a member of the clergy prevent you from holding office.
Jovial Contrarian:
[depending on which way you asked it, whether it sounded like you supported or opposed it, he’d go with the other, but his actual opinions are more like this]:
Seperating the church from state is impossible. the traitor empress is our queen, however little power she excercises, and she also officially rules the church. however, this is a tenuous, weak tie, and it should not be made stronger for any reason. she is the reason we are bound to the bazaar, why we must bow to the masters, and the church is the primary reason for the catastrophe that was a war with hell. if one falters, the other must not follow suit.
The bishop:
No. if we weren’t seperated, we could cast out those damned devils.
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sinning jenny:
no. the poor get the worst of a conscription, while often the wealthy slip out of it. I am not so powerful or delusional to think i can truly prevent that.
the jovial contarian:
[two speeches on the matter that boil down to this]:
Conscription will only be used in the most dire of circumstances. otherwise, wars will be fought by volunteers, or, ideally, not at all.
the bishop:
yes.