About Ventures and Progress Qualities

Fallen London
#1

I am in a curious situation right now. I have just started Investigating the Stones venture and realized that my Investigating… quality was already at higher levels. I have one unfinished venture (two, to be precise, but the second one is based on Fascinating…) and that is Intrique: The curate and his sister, which is also dependent on Investigating… So, the game uses accumulated value for all the ventures of the same type? And what when I complete one of them?

#2

When you complete most stories using Progress qualities generally all of that progress will be used up. That’s why I like to finish those up before moving onto anything else. An exception to this is Casing in Thefts of a Particular Character. That will consume a specific amount of Casing, so it’s fine if you have a surplus. It won’t be wasted.

#3

Thank you, as always :)

I have just decided that the story about the Correspondence Stones is more important to me than the Curate and his sister, so that’s the one I’m going to pursue… for now. But the whole situation is just interesting, and perhaps it requires some more Investigating… pardon, thought about mechanics of the game.

#4

I think Progress qualities are recycled so a new quality doesn’t have to be made every time a story comes out that needs it. You can actually use it to your advantage in at least one case. Build up Investigating in the University (earning Cryptic Clues), and spend it in the Flit (either more Cryptic Clues or Rostygold - with a potential rare success on the Rostygold option). I forget the exact pence per action, but it’s pretty lucrative.

#5

about 1.6 echos/action if your watchful is very high, and you’re lucky.

the other exploit is with the latter part of the big rat story , and fighting the black ribbon running battle challenge. can’t remember how that works since i never used it.

also you can use your &quotThe Hunt Is On&quot progress gained from wolfstack on part of the theological husbandry story in tigers coil 4, if your dangerous isn’t very high.

#6

[quote=&quotMany&quot Chin]about 1.6 echos/action if your watchful is very high, and you’re lucky.[/quote]I got 1.78 when I calculated the Echoes per Action for investigating and raiding message drops for Cryptic Clues.

Average Action cost for raiding a message drop: 0.7 + 0.21 x 2 + 0.063 x 3 + 0.0189 x 4 + 0.00567 x 5 = 0.7 + 0.42 + 0.189 + 0.0756 + 0.02835 = 1.41295 Actions (starting with 16 CP of Investigating… and then another +4 CP every time more is needed)

5.41 Actions to get 4 x 1.06 Echoes + 5.4 Echoes = 1.78 Echoes per Action (using the second to last option that gives 53 Cryptic Clues on success )

I got the same result when I tried to account for Cryptic Clues gained while having to spend extra Actions to rebuild Investigating… after losing 5 CP because of failing to raid the message drop:

0.7 x (4 x 1.06 + 5.4) / (4 + 1) = 1.3496 Echoes/Action
0.21 x (5 x 1.06 + 5.4) / (5 + 2) = 0.321 Echoes/Action
0.063 x (7 x 1.06 + 5.4) / (7 + 3) = 0.080766 Echoes/Action
0.0189 x (8 x 1.06 + 5.4) / 8 + 4) = 0.021861 Echoes/Action
0.00567 x (9 x 1.06 + 5.4) / (9 + 5) = 0.0060507 Echoes/Action
Total: 1.7792777 Echoes/Action

This is a lot of math for something I don’t even any more.

#7

[quote=Gillsing]I got 1.78 when I calculated the Echoes per Action for investigating and raiding message drops for Cryptic Clues.

Average Action cost for raiding a message drop: 0.7 + 0.21 x 2 + 0.063 x 3 + 0.0189 x 4 + 0.00567 x 5 = 0.7 + 0.42 + 0.189 + 0.0756 + 0.02835 = 1.41295 Actions (starting with 16 CP of Investigating… and then another +4 CP every time more is needed)

5.41 Actions to get 4 x 1.06 Echoes + 5.4 Echoes = 1.78 Echoes per Action (using the second to last option that gives 53 Cryptic Clues on success )
…[/quote]

http://community.failbettergames.com/topic784-how-to-accumulate-echoes.aspx?Page=4

my memory is terrible as usual. ho hum
edited by DamWei on 3/26/2014

#8

&quotExploit&quot seems a bit strong of a term, but the basic idea is to use &quotAdvertise a Spot of Hunting&quot while preparing your forces against the Big Rat to gain Running Battle and three Secluded Addresses per action (plus 1 CP of Scandal,) and then cash it in to duel Black Ribboner Chi Lan for 3000 Rostygold, +Fearsome Duelist, and +Dangerous.