 Ericles Posts: 10
12/16/2014
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So, yea, 258 actions searching for my soul, and no luck. One starveling cat.
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 Corran Posts: 401
12/16/2014
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As to the original problem: might it be an idea to give new/temporary options on cards/storylets a different background color? That should be a good warning mechanism to tell people something is up. Or you could color just the OK button.
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 Latil Posts: 20
12/16/2014
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lady ciel wrote:
As far as I know for the University card has a watchful range that some people have gone past. Also the option in the Flit is always available (once you have opened that area) and you don't have to keep flipping cards. Oh, I didn't know it has a range. I was considering to sell my soul (again) to buy the upgrade of my guest room. Now I don't think I will.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
12/16/2014
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Just checked and according to the wiki the range for Map the new heavens is 69 to 120 so if you can get or keep your watchful below 120 you should be OK to use the University card option.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
12/16/2014
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Isn't the Bundle of Oddities value for that variable? I thought it was mostly a bug that made it give exactly the right value. They changed the Bonfire of the Decencies card too.
Edit: Oh, and I just confirmed that the first option on the Western Tower card is no longer the Soul selling one. Excellent. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 12/16/2014
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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 Ericles Posts: 10
12/17/2014
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
Edit: Oh, and I just confirmed that the first option on the Western Tower card is no longer the Soul selling one. Excellent I feel like I accomplished something here :3
Still no soul though... It's not like it was worthless. I did get a night whisper and storm threnodies, so it's a lot of echoes worth of stuff. Just a bit annoying.
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 Cornelius Posts: 12
12/18/2014
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Ericles wrote:
So, yea, 258 actions searching for my soul, and no luck. One starveling cat.
At least you got the cat. Mostly I seem to be accumulating honey via the least efficient process available. Hopefully it's still possible to find one's soul in one of these cursed bundles.
-- Cornelius Sorghumbone http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cornelius~Sorghumbone
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 Myke Harryson Posts: 309
12/18/2014
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Well, I very nearly had a similar problem. Went for the second option and at the last second I saw that they had added ANOTHER option at the top of the card (that involves throwing a soul into the fireplace). Take this as forewarning for the next time you get the Embassy card.
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 Gillsing Posts: 1203
12/19/2014
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Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack will look before he'll click.
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 Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389
12/19/2014
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I've never been so pleased to have a stained soul.
-- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
12/19/2014
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Gillsing wrote:
Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack will look before he'll click. I need to put this on a sticky note next to my computer!
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Cornelius Posts: 12
12/19/2014
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Ha! It took an obscene amount of time spent having "Fun" with the Fisher Kings, but in case anyone else was beginning to doubt, it is apparently still possible to find one's soul in a bundle of oddities. Even if the opportunity cost wasn't cheap.
I have long considered SMEN purely to get my soul stained so I don't have devils constantly romancing me (or otherwise tricking me out of it, now, apparently).
-- Cornelius Sorghumbone http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cornelius~Sorghumbone
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
12/19/2014
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Cornelius wrote:
Ha! It took an obscene amount of time spent having "Fun" with the Fisher Kings, but in case anyone else was beginning to doubt, it is apparently still possible to find one's soul in a bundle of oddities. Even if the opportunity cost wasn't cheap.
I have long considered SMEN purely to get my soul stained so I don't have devils constantly romancing me (or otherwise tricking me out of it, now, apparently).
You can also become Enhanced, as SMEN is locked at the moment, I believe. Though that is a rather expensive Fate option. However, there are quite a few players who consider soul selling to be a pretty good Echo Per Action exchange.
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Ericles Posts: 10
12/19/2014
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I'm fast approaching 400 actions with no soul found :/
EDIT: And at 382 actions, I found something unexpected My soul is back where it belongs... In a jar, in a safe, in a vault, in the basement of my house, guarded by my Tiger lily and other assorted minions. edited by Ericles on 12/19/2014
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
12/19/2014
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Congratulations on getting your soul back.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Cornelius Posts: 12
12/19/2014
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lady ciel wrote:
Congratulations on getting your soul back. Thanks!
And Nigel, that's interesting, I hadn't known about the Enhanced Soul option. Or is that referring to the peculiar enhancement from Flute Street? If so then yes, that's pretty expensive -- especially for something that's ephemeral, no? And oh yeah, I'd forgotten SMEN was still locked. I know Alexis had said an officially supported variant was in the works. I've been Unaccountably Peckish for ages.
It's hard to believe that people think spending hundreds of actions getting 10 honey and 'something wretched' with the Fisher Kings is worth even the most generous soul prices, but perhaps it averages out better than my recent experience. Or maybe folks just sell their soul without worrying too much about getting it back in the near future, and then one day when it shows up in a bundle of oddities it's a pleasant surprise? A watched bundle never contains a soul, as my mother always said.
While on the general subject of souls, is there ANY other way besides staining one's soul or peculiarly enhancing oneself to get those admiring devils out of my deck? It annoys me an unreasonable amount to have them there. If I (perish the thought) sell my soul to one of them, will that make them bug off even after I get it back? Because THAT might well be a worthwhile price for a soul.
-- Cornelius Sorghumbone http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cornelius~Sorghumbone
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 Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389
12/19/2014
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If I (perish the thought) sell my soul to one of them, will that make them bug off even after I get it back? Because THAT might well be a worthwhile price for a soul.
Yes. Sadly, they seem to lose interest in you after that. Such inconstancy!
-- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
12/19/2014
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As far as I remember if you have a (unstained) soul and any connected Hell they will try to get you to give it to them. But you need to play ann option on a specific card to start the Intimate of Devils story line, so be extra careful where you click [spoiler]Plus there is an option in the House of Chimes that can get you Intimate with Devils as well[/spoiler]
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389
12/19/2014
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lady ciel wrote:
As far as I remember if you have a (unstained) soul and any connected Hell they will try to get you to give it to them.
Yes, but if they actually get your soul from you then Intimate of Devils goes to a level where the cards stop showing up.
-- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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 Cornelius Posts: 12
12/19/2014
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Asclepius Unbound wrote:
lady ciel wrote:
As far as I remember if you have a (unstained) soul and any connected Hell they will try to get you to give it to them. Yes, but if they actually get your soul from you then Intimate of Devils goes to a level where the cards stop showing up. Exactly what I wanted to confirm!
Thanks Ciel and company for the additional insights. Yes, it's not hard to get rid of the An Intimate of Devils quality (which reduces the card harassment), but it doesn't keep that "A devil's taken a shine to you" card from showing up all the livelong time. Which I still find terribly irritating.
-- Cornelius Sorghumbone http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Cornelius~Sorghumbone
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