Kylestien
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11/5/2014
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Okay, I was thinking: One day, people will get to be a POSI, or maybe they want it but don 't know how. I was thinking it might be a good idea to have a thread about POSI Status: Important Things to note, how to get there ETC. Feel free to ask questions too, though others will need to answer.
My question: As a Non POSI, I find that my menaces go up quickly sometimes. I end up using a lot of tonics, which is probably bad. But I am given to note these are less effective when a POSI. I was wondering some good tips for keeping menaces low when both a POSI and not.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
11/5/2014
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Well as a POSI your stats will probably mean that you are less likely to raise menaces by failing challenges.
Then there are some things that you can get as a POSI that will help - join a respectable club for suspicion; joining God's Editors for nightmares and scandal; having a ship and going to certain places will also reduce menaces (mainly wounds and nightmares but there is another place where if you know what you are doing you can completely clear them)
Apart from that the regular storylets and cards still work. The tonics do still reduce your menaces as well and you will probably be making enough echoes so that them being less effective isn't such a big deal, apart from the extra actions.
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"Many" Chin
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11/5/2014
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you will also eventually accumulate a large number of tonics for curing nitemares and bloody scabs, once you're reached the 4th coil of that labyrinth.
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dragonridingsorceress
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11/5/2014
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I get rid of Nightmares by Gawking at the Somnolent Hyena in the Labyrinth of Tigers.
I get rid of Wounds by sleeping them off. The one vice DragonRidingSorceress has not indulged in is Laudanum.
I reduce Scandal by going to Church.
Suspicion is the only thing I haven't found a good way to get rid of yet - although after reading lady ciel's comment, I think I'll be going to join a club.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
11/5/2014
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For wounds, if your dangerous is high enough, I recommend paying jade to having something to eat in the first coil of the labyrinth.
For suspicion I tend to ask my dazed raven advisor for advice, you don't lose anything if you are unlucky and 25 rostygold seems fair enough when I am lucky.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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"Many" Chin
Posts: 383
11/5/2014
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Laudanum
oh yeah... and don't make the same mistake i did. got addicted to the stuff, and still can't get the quality below 8, making Laudanums useless for reducing nightmares for my main. apparently, the only way to reduce the addiction quality is through a red opportunity card. i haven't seen that card in over a month?
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Sara Hysaro
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Posts: 4514
11/5/2014
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Actually, when it's that high it's a white bordered Opportunity card. Pretty rare, though (Infrequent Frequency). I think the red bordered card is more common, but there's no proving it and I haven't hung around there long enough to really tell.
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Lady Sapho Byron
Posts: 770
11/5/2014
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Another piece of advice for future POSIs: start saving your money (or rather, things that can become money) now. Many of the fun things to do as a POSI are _expensive_. Having a great deal of expendable resources available when one become a POSI is very useful.
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Rackenhammer
Posts: 354
11/5/2014
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Also, just as a note: when you're a POSI, you can remove the Artist's Model from Your opportunities deck entirely! All you have to do is START (not complete) the storyline to take her as your spouse from the gold-bordered card that turns up after you become a POSI. I haven't seen her City Vices card since I did, and you can still pursue other spouses since it doesn't commit you to anything yet.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
11/5/2014
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
I think the red bordered card is more common, but there's no proving it and I haven't hung around there long enough to really tell. I remember getting that red card, and it appeared when my habit was level 1, and took away 2 CPs of it, making me want to save it until I had used another bottle of laudanum. But the extra card and the Action it took to use it to keep the habit at bay made me stop using laudanum altogether.
I mainly get a few Nightmares from chasing Jack in my sedan chair, and that card also reduces them, and so does my Master Jewel Thief. And what few Nightmares I do get, I hold off with my Bejewelled Cane and A Cheerful Goldfish. It is rare that I have to even see the City Vices: Orthographic Infection card. And every week the Cave of Nadir clears away all of my Nightmares anyway. The thing is, once all the dream qualities are maxed and there's no need to go Seeking Curios and Secrets in the Forgotten Quarter, there aren't really that many sources of Nightmares. So I guess it might make a lot of sense to not become a PoSI until one has acquired all the Eyeless Skulls one plans to get?
For Suspicion I would rely on Nikolas & Sons Instant Ablution Absolution, as it reduces Suspicion by 1-10 CP for a PoSI. Clearly worth the money.
Wounds are one of the few menaces that can be efficiently treated through social actions, though it's the other players who have to take the initiative and offer to Nurse a friend back to health. That heals 2-8 CPs, which is better than the usual -4 CP/+1 CP for Scandal, Suspicion or Nightmares, where two people exchanging such social actions end up spending two Actions each for 3 CP reduction each, which is only a lousy 1.5 CPs/Action. Nursing each others wounds on the other hand gives a decent 2.5 CP reduction (on average). Not quite as good as drinking tinctures as a non-PoSI, but slightly better than doing it as a PoSI.
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Grey Kestrel
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11/5/2014
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You get a lot of menaces as a new PoSI - at least, I do because the new stories have high stat requirements.
Mahogany Hall isn't the most lucrative area for Echoes, but it is good for training stats if menaces become a problem. Some of the storylets there give Plagued by a Popular Song on failure, which is much easier to deal with than regular menaces.
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Gillsing
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11/5/2014
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Grey Kestrel wrote:
You get a lot of menaces as a new PoSI - at least, I do because the new stories have high stat requirements. Good point. I held off on PoSI status for as long as I could, since I didn't really feel that it suited my character. So by the time I went through with it, I had very high stats, and could handle the challenges quite easily.
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"Many" Chin
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11/6/2014
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Not quite as good as drinking tinctures as a non-PoSI, but slightly better than doing it as a PoSI.
half a bottle of tincture still works as well as when you're a non-POSI, if you saved up any. either that or you could go rob an officer in spite.
but this isn't very profitable in terms of echos/action even with 200 shadowy.
http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/A_cavalry_officer
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Gillsing
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11/6/2014
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"Many" Chin wrote:
half a bottle of tincture still works as well as when you're a non-POSI, if you saved up any. I've got 324 of those half-full bottles, but according to the wiki that's recently been changed so that they now reduce wounds by only 1 CP for a PoSI (link). The good news is that full bottles were changed so that instead of being unusable they now reduce Wounds by 2 CP for a PoSI, which seems quite reasonable.
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Grey Kestrel
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11/6/2014
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For 2 CP wounds per action, though, you might as well just take the boat.
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11/13/2014
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Hello my Delicious forumers!
I have been playing FL for about 35 days now (my 1 month anniversary and first Professional Trade Secret was this last Friday,) as a Watchfully-leaning character-who is well, a Watcher Professionally-and I find myself in an interesting but slightly confusing situation.
(No, not that State of Confusion :p
*Hoards his Memories of Light until he can play his Detective cards and choose the Deranged Medium cases again and made a Mirror Marches minor stockpile of them. Six d**nit, get Mouse to *six* next time before going nuts and taking a jungle trip!*
But I digress....)
Through fate, I drew the Little Omen (and previously a bookshop) card(s) while around 4/5 the way to POSI qualification stat-wise, which I used on my Shadowy (and previously Dangerous) stat(s.)
(And no, that wasn't why I chose those moods, but I still took advantage when I realized I could unlock that.)
This meant while I had enough modified stats to "naturally" unlock Watchful and Persuasive (to start and continue) the POSI barrister's quest, I "prematurely" (like using fate I guess) was allowed access through the strolling of Spite and Watchmaker's Road's Shadowy and Dangerous respectively. As noted, finishing up with Ladybones Road's Watchful was a non-issue.
This means even after the moods left, I still walked through all four POSI stat gate areas.
All that written, my question is what suggestions are there to grind for the Romantic Notions needed for the Townhouse Pre POSI "opportunity card" and would having only a (modified) 84 Shadowy and (modified) 81 Dangerous be a problem for that?
(Edit: of course recently after I post this the "A little Hideaway" card comes up, so same question regarding getting the Notions for the residence without any card needed, and I can accept tips how to acquire the Romantic Notions post-POSI if that's an issue.)
Of course before I continue to full POSI or even doing any serious side street shopping, I absolutely plan on grinding those stats to a modified 100+, it just happened that fate let me jump ahead for a bit *still limping from some Wolfstack Docks Dangerous Prey attempts after the Hubris of Black Ribbon Dueling successes.*
But if I just need to discard such Opportunities for now and grind like a good little small-fry importance player until later for me to do anything, let me know that as well. [Other stuff edited out after posting, since Fate did an audit and paid me some back-wages; see above regarding the Hideaway card.]
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Gillsing
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11/13/2014
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the truthseeker wrote:
All that written, my question is what suggestions are there to grind for the Romantic Notions needed for the Townhouse Pre POSI "opportunity card" and would having only a (modified) 84 Shadowy and (modified) 81 Dangerous be a problem for that?
(Edit: of course recently after I post this the "A little Hideaway" card comes up, so same question regarding getting the Notions for the residence without any card needed, and I can accept tips how to acquire the Romantic Notions post-POSI if that's an issue.) The best source I can think of is only decent if you're trading favours with revolutionaries in the Flit, because then you can hold public lectures in the Forgotten Quarter to increase your Connected to: Revolutionaries, and getting just as much connection to Society and Bohemians. The latter connection can then be traded at the Shuttered Palace for Prisoner's Honey, which can be converted to Romantic Notions. The good part in all this is that you'd be making money from getting the honey. The bad part is that it would still take a lot of cards and therefore time to get that money.
All the other sources of Prisoner's Honey and Romantic Notions seem restricted to about 1-1.2 Echoes/Action, which I feel is a bit too low for my taste. And two of those require that you're already PoSI: The trade in clocks on the Devices and desires card gives you 10 x Romantic Notion, and Doing the decent thing. in Unfinished Business in Veilgarden gives you 50 x Drop of Prisoner's Honey. Apparently you can get better than that in Polythreme, so that might be worth the trip.
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Rackenhammer
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11/13/2014
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If you're grinding Bohemian for Honey, a better source of that would be publishing Poetry in Praise of the Duchess at the Shuttered Palace; gives you both Connected Bohemian and Duchess, which means you'll always be able to get into court if you want. You get more CP of Connected Bohemian/action here.
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11/13/2014
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Gillsing wrote:
the truthseeker wrote:
All that written, my question is what suggestions are there to grind for the Romantic Notions needed for the Townhouse Pre POSI "opportunity card" and would having only a (modified) 84 Shadowy and (modified) 81 Dangerous be a problem for that?
(Edit: of course recently after I post this the "A little Hideaway" card comes up, so same question regarding getting the Notions for the residence without any card needed, and I can accept tips how to acquire the Romantic Notions post-POSI if that's an issue.)
The best source I can think of is only decent if you're trading favours with revolutionaries in the Flit, because then you can hold public lectures in the Forgotten Quarter to increase your Connected to: Revolutionaries, and getting just as much connection to Society and Bohemians. The latter connection can then be traded at the Shuttered Palace for Prisoner's Honey, which can be converted to Romantic Notions. The good part in all this is that you'd be making money from getting the honey. The bad part is that it would still take a lot of cards and therefore time to get that money.
All the other sources of Prisoner's Honey and Romantic Notions seem restricted to about 1-1.2 Echoes/Action, which I feel is a bit too low for my taste. And two of those require that you're already PoSI: The trade in clocks on the Devices and desires card gives you 10 x Romantic Notion, and Doing the decent thing. in Unfinished Business in Veilgarden gives you 50 x Drop of Prisoner's Honey. Apparently you can get better than that in Polythreme, so that might be worth the trip.
Capital! Thank you immensely Gillsing!
Since I got my POSI potential path entry (and all I have to do is a little tutorial learning and make a few "simple" things for my Velocipede, considering how much I had to pay for stuff in my Ambition-Nemesis, it's not that costly, comparatively speaking,) I have no problem with waiting for cards and time there! (not like I have much choice immediately, see below.)
Unlike some other lodgings that cost 60-80 K worth of stuff, the Townhouse is quite reasonable now I can clearly see the path!
(When my Salon is quite famous in the future, I'll invite my Ubergoat to return, visiting his famous Oneironaut where we can laugh over "difficulty achieving things" as we sip Hesperidean Cider. There I go digressing again.  )
I recently started upping my Revolutionaries/Proscribed material in the Flit a few days ago (and following some interesting couriers of course when my Shadowy went over 85,) as well as (within the last few minutes) have an even stronger Persuasion (thanks the Lapidary for the shiny Bejeweled Cane) for my planned honey-grinding at the Shuttered Palace! (And when I do go POSI and not in a Nightmare and more Watchful concerned mood, I also can switch it with this Lapel badge for....oh, I'm not allowed to say, it's a secret  )
And I planned to camp out and explore all the avenues of The Court anyway before...being likely thrown out eventually, so those synergies are just what I needed to piece together!
The problem is immediately I can't do Public Lectures until I am a Scholar of the Correspondence and the only way (*eyeroll*) to increase Archeology to 3 (after first using the storylet to get it to 1) to get to the Tomb of the Seven Stones is doing the lesser very long prep grinding and costly (to pre-POSI) exhibitions supply gathering. (Yeah, right, I know there's a card Watchful 100+ people could draw; I ain't getting it, like I never annoyed Jack of Smiles after 190+ attempts for the Rare Success back in Watchmaker's Hill.)
So I am upping my Expeditions in the Forgotten Quarter (deciding how to best raise funds pre-POSI for that is a whole other question as I decide for example if I should sell my Searing Enigma for funds from my last successful Blue temple attempt which I have to repeat one more freaking time before saving up for even more minimal supplies for the Tomb of Seven 30-turn endeavor. It seems here the game acts like it forgets the timesinks the other three stats have at 85+ for each of those stats' long campaigns! :p) Eventually after days to a week later (my luck has been bipolar recently) this "mandatory expedition part" will be done, and I can start on the "stupid" resource stockpiling between stat grindings for POSI stuff.
Fortunately, I did very, very well in cultivating my Bohemian connections (for Hedonist 8+ on a few things,) so I can keep grinding/recovering those connections even without the University lecture ATM for resources. It will just take slower to do so until my long grind for the Stones is over. Depending on my fortunes, I may have to enter the courtyard a few times and re-establish connections with the Dutchess and Society anyway.
While thinking about it here (for everybody, not just the very helpful Gillsing) feel free for suggesting Pre-POSI Watchful-aligned character (thank goodness straightforward exhibition attempts auto-succeed) methods for efficiently raising exhibition supplies quickly with 100+ in Watchful and Persuasive and 85+ in Shadowy and Dangerous.
(So for instance I can't do the Labyrinth yet, nor do I have the 5000 entry rats [glares at a greedy green plant growing in my cellar] even if my Dangerous stats were high enough.)
Having university access that is able to actually do something there besides a few independent storylets would be helpful for that POSI resource grinding.
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lady ciel
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11/13/2014
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To get whispered secrets for supplies I would suggest Seeking Curios - yes you are likely to increase your nightmares significantly but you raise all 4 stats and have a chance at getting some high value items as well.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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