dov
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10/30/2015
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Parelle wrote:
I find the lack of cats curious, as in 4 boxes I received 3 of them (and became quite paranoid of cats being gifts).
That is... extremely lucky. The success rate for getting a cat from a box is around 5%.
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Also, an immensely inefficient use of resources to increase Suspicion is going on a Heist
Another approach (not the best) is going to the Pickpocket's Promenade and purposely losing Unseen to get caught. I think it's about 6-7 actions, and you get a small Suspicion boost if you have little, and a big boost if your already have much Suspicion.
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Vopel
Posts: 33
10/30/2015
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One more card that raises Nightmares (+12 CP) and wasn't mentioned here is A street-cart is selling Fourth City Rags, which appears with standard frequency and requires not having Fourth City Rags (can be sold at Bazaar). It's not much, but it's one more opportunity.
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
10/30/2015
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My prefered method is:
1) Unequip Nightmare bonnet
2) Gawp
3) Gawp
4) Equip Nightmare bonnet
5) Cat
6) Cat
7) Accept Pride Confession
8) Repeat
It's 4 actions to get Menace and 5 in total. Not as good as the Mandrake or being poisoned, but if you're low on Mandrakes and short on folks willing to poison you(and you feel using an alt to be untoward) it's fairly efficient.
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Gonen
Posts: 817
10/30/2015
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I like to do this:
For whimsy - achieve 1+1 with equipment (free) for suspect and scandal. Then 2 action at the duchess for unaccountably peckish (2 scandal, 8 nightmare), and 2 public lectures at quarter (2 suspect and good connections for salon).
Total of 4 for whimsy.
Then I can only 3 Mandrake for wounds and Pride (since I did the lecture at the duchess for nightmares).
4 actions for whimsy, 3 for pride. Even only 1 action for Pride if instead of mandrake I have a poison from social actions.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
10/30/2015
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I have lost track of this thread! I am going to go backwards through it and update the top post.
Gonen wrote:
Then 2 action at the duchess for unaccountably peckish (2 scandal, 8 nightmare)
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2 public lectures at quarter (2 suspect and good connections for salon).
Note that this locks at 6 Peckish. Also how does this math add up, don't you need three lectures to go from Suspicion 2 to Suspicion 3?
Oh, wait, you're going from Suspicion 1 to Suspicion 2 and then equiping the Hat. Got it.
(Can you please make sure I set this out right in the top post? My Peckish is too high so I can't test it myself.)
edited by an_ocelot on 10/30/2015
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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10/30/2015
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
My prefered method is:
1) Unequip Nightmare bonnet
2) Gawp
3) Gawp
4) Equip Nightmare bonnet
5) Cat
6) Cat
7) Accept Pride Confession
8) Repeat
It's 4 actions to get Menace and 5 in total. Not as good as the Mandrake or being poisoned, but if you're low on Mandrakes and short on folks willing to poison you(and you feel using an alt to be untoward) it's fairly efficient.
That's very elegant. I overlooked it before because it's a skill check but it's a pretty low straightforward.
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Vopel
Posts: 33
10/30/2015
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uli wrote:
If you wanted to get really OCD about it, it's possible to cut this down to 3 actions using confessions of pride. You'll need a sporing hat and unaccountably peckish between 2 and 6:
* 1 action: Accept a confession of pride
* 1 action: Convince a friend to poison you for ~10CP wounds (you'll need 3 wounds to start with, but that's fine; just don't let it drop down too low)
* 1 action: At the Duchess' salon, attend and speak of... terrible things for +4CP nightmares. Equip the sporing hat, and you're ready to accept another confession.
Attend and speak of... terrible things adds +1CP unaccountably peckish, and locks at Unaccountably Peckish 6, so you'll eventually need to eat some roasted chestnuts for 1 additional action. This should reduce unaccountably peckish enough for another few runs.
Rinse and repeat!
Attend and speak of... terrible things gives +1CP of Scandal as well. This allows to confess Whimsy in 3 actions after two Prides. These 2 CP of Scandal increase it from lvl 1 to 2, put on stockings to get Scandal 3, then you only need to deliver 2 public lectures to rise Suspicion from 1 to 2, put on Pirate's Hat and accept Whimsy. But this tactic will be most effective when you have Pride and Whimsy requests in ratio of 2 to 1.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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10/30/2015
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Vopel wrote:
One more card that raises Nightmares (+12 CP) and wasn't mentioned here is A street-cart is selling Fourth City Rags, which appears with standard frequency and requires not having Fourth City Rags (can be sold at Bazaar). It's not much, but it's one more opportunity.
Great, thanks.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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10/30/2015
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Gonen wrote:
Choosing to act on wednesday at the Mahogany hall (a strange hunger in your belly) can give +4CP in suspection, nightmares AND scandal (but lower connection to society & bohemian). 2 actions only if you have enough points of Tales of Mahogany Hall to be able to enter the wednesday's bill
edited by Gonen on 10/29/2015
Thank you!
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Gonen
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10/30/2015
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an_ocelot wrote:
Note that this locks at 6 Peckish. Also how does this math add up, don't you need three lectures to go from Suspicion 2 to Suspicion 3?
Oh, wait, you're going from Suspicion 1 to Suspicion 2 and then equiping the Hat. Got it.
Actuelly, You don't need to withdraw the pirate hat before the lecture. Even if you are at 1+1 scandal with the hat, every +CP you get will raise the BASE value. So even with 1+1 (2 suspicion) you only need 2 CP to raise it to 2+1 (and need not bother technically with unequip-raise CP -equip again)
Yes, it has a maximum of level 6 peckish. Since I acquired the Peckish specifically for this, I started at level 2. Every action at the duchess gave +1 CP. Total of 18 CP to reach level 6 = 9 times this trick which gives 9 whimsy+ 9 Pride. After that you need to switch method or lower Peckish with actions (some lower it 2 CP at a time. If anyone has an action which lowers it even more, please let know).
Lastly, you get a minute stock of Cryptic secrets & appalling secrets for your trouble. Small bonus.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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Gonen, thanks!
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Vopel
Posts: 33
10/30/2015
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Gonen wrote:
After that you need to switch method or lower Peckish with actions (some lower it 2 CP at a time. If anyone has an action which lowers it even more, please let know).
I think Roast chestnuts lower it by 3 CP.
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Gonen
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10/30/2015
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Vopel wrote:
Gonen wrote:
After that you need to switch method or lower Peckish with actions (some lower it 2 CP at a time. If anyone has an action which lowers it even more, please let know).
I think Roast chestnuts lower it by 3 CP.
Hope so. Wiki says only 1 CP
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Vopel
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10/30/2015
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Gonen wrote:
Vopel wrote:
Gonen wrote:
After that you need to switch method or lower Peckish with actions (some lower it 2 CP at a time. If anyone has an action which lowers it even more, please let know).
I think Roast chestnuts lower it by 3 CP.
Hope so. Wiki says only 1 CP
That migth be an older information. I tried it on my alt and got -3 CP (3 out of 3 tries). Maybe it has -1-3 CP and I just got lucky.
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The Duke of Waltham
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10/31/2015
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Not feeling peckish at the moment, but there is something nobody has mentioned so far: lectures in the Forgotten Quarter give two CPs of suspicion instead of one if you fail. With a Talkative Rattus Faber I've often taken the suspicion down from five actions to four (one or two failures) or even three (two or three failures). I imagine many of the characters here will be far too advanced to take advantage of this—my own base Watchful is 116 and I've only recently become a PoSI—but still I think it's worth for many to equip the rat for the occasional action benefit, at least during the specific grind.
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Gonen
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10/31/2015
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Yea, that's the problem with challenge based actions - you could be too advanced for that. If you fail peckish at the duchess you get 4 (!) scandal and 4 nightmares instead of 1 scandal.
Also, Vopel, you were right - chestnuts lowered my peckish CP by 3 two times.
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Scienceandponies
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10/31/2015
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I've been having a good time with boxful of intrigue actions. My base shadowy is only in the high 80's, and with the rat equipped I'm looking at a nice 26% chance of success. It's pretty much a win win. Either I fail and gain a points of suspicion, or I succeed every once in a while and get something I kind of want anyway, and get some good grinding on my lowest stat either way.
What's really great is laughing at the the attempts of the RNG to hurt me. I supposedly have a 1/4 chance of "success", yet have "failed" the last 20 attempts in a row. In any other context, that would be infuriating.
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Noren
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11/3/2015
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This will only help if you're sitting on a stack of Counterfeit Head of John the Baptists, but for whimsy:
0. equip/unequip Mod Bonnet and Pirate Hat, ending on Hat with Stockings equipped
1. Employ a Counterfeit Head of John the Baptist for practical jokes:
1a. 50% chance of 'success' and no progress, but keep the Head and get minor items
1b. 50% chance of 'failure', for 2pts scandal and 1pt suspicion, losing a Head
2. One turn of public lectures for the last point of suspicion needed
3. Confess and repeat
Step 1 is a coin flip that will average 2 turns to get a the 'failure' that you want, so this is an average of 3 turns to be ready for a Whimsy confession.
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NotaWalrus
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11/4/2015
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Scienceandponies wrote:
I've been having a good time with boxful of intrigue actions. My base shadowy is only in the high 80's, and with the rat equipped I'm looking at a nice 26% chance of success. It's pretty much a win win. Either I fail and gain a points of suspicion, or I succeed every once in a while and get something I kind of want anyway, and get some good grinding on my lowest stat either way.
What's really great is laughing at the the attempts of the RNG to hurt me. I supposedly have a 1/4 chance of "success", yet have "failed" the last 20 attempts in a row. In any other context, that would be infuriating.
My feelings exactly. I am using a rat to get the Public Lecture to be very modest instead of straightforward. It's fun to see the RNG try to vex me with repeat failures.
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Nigel Overstreet
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11/4/2015
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NotaWalrus wrote:
My feelings exactly. I am using a rat to get the Public Lecture to be very modest instead of straightforward. It's fun to see the RNG try to vex me with repeat failures.
"Oh no, Mr RNG. Don't throw me the briar patch!"
Also, guys. I'm starting to think that maybe, just maybe...this fella might be a Walrus!
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