 Lady Taimi Felix Posts: 202
9/30/2014
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Oh dear! My loquacious self often already struggled to narrow my thoughts to the confines of the ~350 word text limit, but today I've been bumping against a firm 500 character limit. Past that point no letters appear in the message box. I sent myself a copy & pasted longer letter by using my alt, and the text past 500 characters was indeed missing and not just hidden. Any idea what's going on with this?
-- Lady Taimi Felix: Devoted Wife. Invisible Eminence. Patron of the Shadowy Arts. Monster Hunter. Lady of Adventure. Exceptionally Lethal. Loves a Good Chat over Coffee.
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 Johnny Felix Posts: 180
9/30/2014
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I can reproduce the symptom my dear wife is describing. It would be a shame if that limitation became permanent, I had quite some verbose conversations over that message system.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Johnny%20Felix
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 Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770
10/1/2014
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The limits are still in effect. I am completely, totally, utterly, altogether, and downright displeased, disgusted, dismayed, and vexed! And I am unanimous in that!
Seriously, lengthy correspondences are one of the best parts of the game; please bring them back.
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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 Miss Perative Posts: 46
10/1/2014
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Allow me to add my voice to the chorus of disappointed players. My "curriculum" of Shadowy Protege instruction includes several lessons that go longer than this. (To say nothing of my long and whimsical acquaintance-snubbing text, of which I am unduly fond.) There are so many wonderful examples of creativity on display here: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic5843-best-of-calling-cards--other-social-actions.aspx Many of those could not have been sent under a 500-character limit.
-- I've removed my profile link for the time being as I don't play often enough these days to engage in social actions.
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
10/1/2014
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The background to this: there was a hidden limit on messages of a thousand-and-something characters. If you go above the limit, the invitation isn't sent and the game unceremoniously consumes the words. We added a restriction to the form to deal with it more gracefully. But 500 characters is, as you say, too short.
The limit is now 1000 characters. I don't think more than that fit pleasantly into FL's unparagraphed messages; for lengthier exchanges, a better option may be to send multiple letters for zero actions from your lodgings.
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 Lady Taimi Felix Posts: 202
10/1/2014
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Yes, the text-gobbling from too-long messages was also frustrating, but was also easily avoidable by using a word counter and/or copying & pasting for those who know they tend toward verbosity. The old limit must have been closer to ~2000 characters, because if I kept things in the 350-word range, all would usually be well. 1000 characters is certainly better than 500, but isn't there just a way to keep the original limit without the disappearing text?
-- Lady Taimi Felix: Devoted Wife. Invisible Eminence. Patron of the Shadowy Arts. Monster Hunter. Lady of Adventure. Exceptionally Lethal. Loves a Good Chat over Coffee.
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 Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770
10/1/2014
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Thank you for upping the limit! And responding so quickly! But I agree with Lady Taimi, unless your resources would get slammed by a high character limit, why not make the limit = lots and lots?
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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 Johnny Felix Posts: 180
10/1/2014
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Thanks for changing the limit. Sending letters from your lodgings does cost an action each, though.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Johnny%20Felix
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
10/3/2014
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We've increased the limit to 1400 characters, which is nearly what it was before. Any further increase isn't really feasible, for boring (but rather stubborn) reasons. I hope that will suffice for most purposes.
Apologies for my mistake about the cost of writing letters. I forgot we'd decided to keep the action cost: there's a small but unlovely possibility that it might be abused for automated spam, otherwise.
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 Lady Taimi Felix Posts: 202
10/3/2014
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That is fantastic news! Thank you!
-- Lady Taimi Felix: Devoted Wife. Invisible Eminence. Patron of the Shadowy Arts. Monster Hunter. Lady of Adventure. Exceptionally Lethal. Loves a Good Chat over Coffee.
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 Snowskeeper Posts: 575
10/3/2014
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If I could make a suggestion: For long conversations, you might find it easier to create a thread in Mr Pages' Fabularities on this forum, or use the private messaging system instead if you'd rather keep them away from prying eyes. These methods have the benefit of allowing proper formatting, and not costing anything as far as actions go.
-- S.F., a midnight midnighter and invisible eminence. Impossible to locate them, personally, but there are dead drops and agents.
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 Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770
10/3/2014
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Hooray Flyte!!
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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 dragonridingsorceress Posts: 622
10/4/2014
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@Snowskeeper Not everyone is on the Forums.
-- DragonRidingSorceress is an Author of good standing. Mostly good standing. She's happy to accept any social action except Photographer and Loitering, but requests warnings before duping/poisoning/etc.
Seeker of Names is a... being with an obsession. They're willing to accept all invitations. One who seeks to know all that is and may be. One who dances in the silence of the void. One whose fantasies make the reality come alive.
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