Trodgmey
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8/18/2014
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I realize that Fallen London and Sunless Sea are separate games and that not everything is equivalent between them. That said (SS spoilers primarily)...
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There are a lot of places on the Sunless Sea whose names have cropped up a couple times in FL, but if you've played SS enough you've probably eventually ended up around Avid Horizon, quite possibly the spookiest place in all of the Neath that I've encountered. It's a locked gate on the edge of the zee, with towering, Angel of Death-like statues looming over it, in an area utterly saturated by gant. Behind it, as the lore would have it, is an all consuming nothingness, reminiscent of the lore surrounding the Liberation of Night.
As I mention in the title, I haven't had enough of a chance to play the various shuffled map situations yet, but for me it has pretty consistently ended up in the north. Or should I say, the North. Or perhaps, just, "NORTH."
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I'm inviting rampant speculation here. Anyone else puzzled over this a bit? (Particularly SMEN folks -- I'm unclear on if there's a connection between the Digested One and the chthonic arctic.)
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Theus
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8/19/2014
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The portal to outer space, from an underground cavern: Fallen London was clearly influenced by Fraggle Rock.
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Snowskeeper
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8/19/2014
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Owen Wulf wrote:
Brought by or lured by? Either way it's a fine line. I'll admit, I have no actual basis for my speculation.
Do you recall how we came to that place? And they sang of their lightnings and shapeful disgrace? And we tilted our vanes and ennobled our spires. They welcomed us then, and commingled all choirs. And not enough, not enough. Still It mourns, and still waits the Sun.
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Owen Wulf
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8/18/2014
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I highly suspect that Avid Horizon is a portal to outer space, which would explain why the area around it is so cold. I also suspect that the Lornflukes are alien probes that entered the Neath through Avid Horizon and are the vanguard of an invasion from the furthest depths of space and time.
As I mentioned earlier the area around Avid horizon is very cold, seeming to be covered in snow and also being very windy. These two factors might help to explain why there is weather at all in the Neath - a place deep underground with no skies or standard cloud formations.
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Sir Goomy
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7/9/2016
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[spoiler]If I remember correctly, in Sunless Sea you can open and pass through the Horizon's gates. Once you do that, you get one of the games secret endings and a little nice text implying that your corporial form is no more and you in a sense - have transcend into another state of being. From there on the immaterial and material are now completly open to you and as such, you get to (well you character gets, not you) to explore the realm of the Lorn Flukes, The Forge of Souls the kingdoms of Judgments and etc,etc.[/spoiler]
In short, that which is behind the gate is more than just space or something a mere mortal, ordinary being can explain.
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al2o3cr
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7/10/2016
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Definitely the same place in both games. It's hinted at (but not fully explained) that there may be others who are trying to open the Gate:
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- in FL itself, there's a hint on the "NORTH!" destination when zailing that the Dilmun Club is interested. Whether that's because they are Seekers or not is currently unclear.
- in SS, there's the Merchant Venturer who ultimately (with your help) passes through the Gate. He doesn't seem exactly like a Seeker, but he has an unnerving habit of requesting things in multiples of The Number...
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A Dimness
Posts: 613
8/8/2016
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Mr. Eaten/Drowned Man's affiliated with Candles because [spoiler] His name was Mr. Candles before he was eaten, and presumably he governed trade concerning candles and other sorts of lights. [/spoiler]
You're also quite right about the Avid Horizon leading towards outer space, probably somewhere close to Axile if I'm not mistaken.
Lorn-Flukes are actually sentient, one briefly harangues you down in Savior's Rocks (The Avaricious Lorn-Fluke), and the Fathomking is married to another. Apparently the principalities of coral are in some way a Lorn-Fluke too, judging by the Your Father's Bones ambition. Makes you feel kinda guilty for butchering so many of them for secrets, doesn't it?
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Cthonius
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8/8/2016
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Mr. Eaten also [spoiler]governed dreams, which are also associated with candles.[/spoiler]
I think the Lorn-Flukes are named differently as they are more...hostile? To the Bazaar at least. Iirc the Destiny concerning Lorn-Flukes certainly implies as much. While the ones in Flute Street and the Nadir are more welcoming, inasmuch as they can be.
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Dave Mongoose
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8/30/2014
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This must be Void's Approach. The air crackles with frosty radiations. To the North, the false-stars fail in the darkness.
If you go to The House of the Question in Whither and "Ask about the Drowned Man", you get a very relevant piece of lore:
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He is not a god. He came from the North, where it is too cold for gods, and to the North he will return. If you go North, nothing of you will remain.
If we go with the cosmic themes of Fallen London, then perhaps beyond the Avid Horizon is something like a black hole, either literally or metaphorically. It's a bit of a stretch but 'avid horizon' is reminiscent of 'event horizon' (the edge of a black hole), the area name implies that there is a 'void' beyond, and the reference to 'radiations' and wind that 'passes without effort through your bridge-coat, your flesh, your lungs' hint at something like x-rays (which are emitted in high concentrations from around the edges of black holes). On a more abstract level, there's also the insatiable hunger connected with all things Eaten.[/spoiler]
EDIT: only one spoiler tag per post
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Crater
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7/8/2016
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A mention has been made in Fallen London of the Avid Horizon. A hint as to the pillar that stands upon its quay, cracks in the frozen stone jammed with scraps of paper. No one has ever gone through the doors...at least, no one ever speaks of someone having done so.
Perhaps the time is arriving where Londoners might venture there and find out for themselves. Or be driven there by hunger.
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Trodgmey
Posts: 164
8/19/2014
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Owen Wulf wrote:
I highly suspect that Avid Horizon is a portal to outer space, which would explain why the area around it is so cold. I also suspect that the Lornflukes are alien probes that entered the Neath through Avid Horizon and are the vanguard of an invasion from the furthest depths of space and time.
As I mentioned earlier the area around Avid horizon is very cold, seeming to be covered in snow and also being very windy. These two factors might help to explain why there is weather at all in the Neath - a place deep underground with no skies or standard cloud formations.
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edited by Owen Wulf on 8/18/2014
Putting it that way, unless there's lore elsewhere I haven't seen or can't remember that indicates otherwise, it could be how
[spoiler]the Bazaar got to the Neath in the first place.[/spoiler]
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