Elilasol
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7/11/2014
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SHIPS
1. Ships do not trade back in for money(If you buy the cutter and suddenly realize you want the original ship back, it WILL cost you 2000 golds). The only instance of this not being true is the original starting ship, which costs 2000 to buy, and if you are currently piloting it will give you a 1000 gold reduction on all ship prices.
2. Purchasing a ship with a smaller cargo size than you currently have goods will FORCE YOU TO DROP ALL EXCESS GOODS IN THE WATER. If you have ANYTHING worth ANY amount of money, be very careful when doing this.
3. Purchasing a new ship will ask you to name your ship. Switching to another ship, then back to the one you've already named will not allow you to rename this ship. Apparently you buy the old one back and are attached to the name or something.
4. No ship has additional equipment slots. The same 6 slots exist in all ships.
CREW
1. You can easily hire crew up to the ship's capacity. (There is a current bug for some people, the option to do this does not appear at 10+ crew. Closing your game after buying a new ship and restarting should fix the issue. Personally I have not encountered it, and don't know how it happens.)
2. Hunger will increase by half of your crew size once every 10 seconds. Do not underestimate the amount of food you need if you move up to a larger ship, if you have twice the crew, they will eat twice the food.
3. Crew are still recieved in the normal ways. At the same rate. You still get 2-3 for the hearts challenge in london which hires on crew. This means fully crewing a large ship is more expensive.
4. Conversely, you still lose crew at the same rates. On the cutter with a max of 5 crew, you are seriously in danger of losing half your crew to certain bad events, with no current benefit to using the cutter.
ENGINES/SPEED/FUEL
1. Ship weight has no current effect on speed(I timed this with a stop watch on all ships). The only difference is engine power. The difference between the 800 power starting engine and the 3500 power max one, was about 20% speed or so. (Same distance test run for the starting engine/serpinetine/combustor = 18/16.5/14.5 seconds)
2. Similarly, fuel usage is not effected by ship weight. Fuel used is determined by two things, First - is your light on, and Second - are you moving. If you're running super low on fuel and NEED to make it to your next port, turning off your light will DOUBLE your fuel economy. At the severe cost of raising your terror gain to unprecedented levels.
HULL
1. All ships start with their stated hull ratings, all ships heal 25 per repair at the dry-docks, All ships seem to take the same amount of damage from all enemies.
2. Similar to crew loss/gains, it happens at the same rates. Larger hull sizes ensure living longer.
GLIM-LAMPS
1. The glim-lamps that refer to "Obscuring energies" claim to require an "Obscuring energies item". While this item itself does not exist, the skill still functions in combat and reduces your illumination by up to 20, and increases your terror by up to 20 as well.
Any questions? Don't hesitate to ask! I can and will test any interesting questions regarding this topic. Ships are super expensive and you shouldn't make an ill-informed decision.
edited by Elilasol on 7/12/2014
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Maciej Stańczyk
Posts: 1
7/11/2014
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Any questions? Don't hesitate to ask!
How the Hell you managed to amass that amount of money?
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Funkslayer
Posts: 11
7/11/2014
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Nice ty for the writeup, I was curious about some of these things before I drop money for a ship. I'm currently running the default one with upgrades and eventually I suppose you gotta move up.
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penknife
Posts: 85
7/11/2014
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Elilasol, is the item referred to in the Glim-lamp text an Unclear Device? Those do exist and are usable, and it makes a certain amount of sense that "Obscuring Energies" would help with their use. (If not, I've got no idea either.)
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Inky Petrel
Posts: 370
7/11/2014
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Thanks for the info! 
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Dr. Hieronymous Alloy
Posts: 228
7/11/2014
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If ship weight doesn't currently impact speed, what about turning radius?
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MatthewtheMagnificent
Posts: 62
7/11/2014
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On crew matters, I just upgraded to the freighter which is magnificent for berging, or what ever the hunting of huge living rocks is called. But I can only hire zailors via "a new recruit" because London gives me "locked: no more than 9 etc."
A bug or am I just dumb?
Turning radius is larger in relation to how long your ship is, so more manuvering by giving and taking steam.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/11/2014
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But the benefit of a longer ship is less time between light buoys so, in places, you can get between two of them without gaining any terror.
The crew thing is a bug, normally exiting out of the game and reloading fixes it.
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MatthewtheMagnificent
Posts: 62
7/11/2014
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As always much obliged my lady.
Longer ships are great, less terror, big enough hold to turn profits through commerce and a hull that can take a serious beating.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
7/11/2014
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Oh yes the increased hull strength is a huge benefit, I accidentally ran into Mount Nomad and just survived with 49 hull left out of 250. The increased hold capacity means you can stay away from port longer as well - lots of killing beasties and looting Corsair's to fill up that space.
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Zee-Bat
Posts: 140
7/11/2014
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Actually for the glim lamps 'Obscuring Energies' comes included with it. You can use it as a combat veils skill in battle though I honestly think it's a pretty big gamble unless you're desperate and facing a Lorn Fluke or Mt. Nomad.
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Aximillio
Posts: 1251
7/11/2014
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I think I saw something called "Quarters" on some of the ships - what are these?
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Spacemarine9
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7/11/2014
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The Quarters quality determines how many crew members you can have aboard at once.
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Elilasol
Posts: 5
7/11/2014
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Zee-Bat wrote:
Actually for the glim lamps 'Obscuring Energies' comes included with it. You can use it as a combat veils skill in battle though I honestly think it's a pretty big gamble unless you're desperate and facing a Lorn Fluke or Mt. Nomad.
Turns out you are right.... I honestly didn't even try using the skill cause it said it needed an item. But it works fine even without.
Dr. Hieronymous Alloy wrote:
If ship weight doesn't currently impact speed, what about turning radius?
From what I can tell turning radius is unaffected between ships.
Maciej Stańczyk wrote:
How the Hell you managed to amass that amount of money?
I hacked the money. I cheated. I'm not discussing how to do that here, but the obvious reason is that when I play the game I don't want to make a shitty decision when 29000 gold takes 50+ hours to grind out right now. I also figured it would help a lot of other people who aren't willing to look into cheating for themselves.
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lord1box
Posts: 62
7/12/2014
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Can you inherit ships?
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Elilasol
Posts: 5
7/12/2014
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lord1box wrote:
Can you inherit ships?
There is no way to pass ships on through death. Heirlooms are the only option, and all they are is money. Also since you can only pass 11, and they sell for an average of 1k or so, you only get 10k max to pass on, which could buy you a ship, but not the nicest ships.
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paradoxicalGentleman
Posts: 5
7/12/2014
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Is the ship with only 30 hold worth buying? It seems awfully scarce.
Is the ship weight having no effect a bug?
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nameless
Posts: 237
7/12/2014
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It's not worth. Weight does nothing, for now.
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Diptych
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7/12/2014
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The Corvette? It's not a bad little ship - it boosts Irons without penalising Veils - perfectly serviceable for mid-level adventuring.
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paradoxicalGentleman
Posts: 5
7/12/2014
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
The Corvette? It's not a bad little ship - it boosts Irons without penalising Veils - perfectly serviceable for mid-level adventuring.
The thing is, I make most of my money through Admiralty information-gathering: if I don't have the fuel to reach far places, I'm basically ruining my main source of income.
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