Individual99991
Posts: 56
6/8/2014
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I've been toying with the idea of using the Merry Gentleman card to buy a four-card-slot room at the Royal Bethlehem, but grinding secrets for those 50 antique mysteries is tedious in the extreme. Are any of the other accommodations easier to get, or at least a fraction more varied in their grinding? I'm not terribly bothered which one I go for, though a place at the bazaar would probably have more pleasant neighbours than the Brass Embassy or Bedlam...
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dov
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6/8/2014
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The best way, as always, depends on your stats and options available to you.
My preferred method is via Thefts of Particular Character.
With a Gang of Hoodlums and a high enough Shadowy, it's 10 actions to get each Antique Mystery.
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Sara Hysaro
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6/8/2014
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The 4 card accommodations are all fairly expensive. The Royal Bethlehem costs 50 Antique Mysteries, the Premises at the Bazaar costs 50 Bazaar Permits, and the Brass Embassy requires several items (500 Brilliant Souls, 100 Muscaria Brandy, 1 Brass Ring) in addition to having to be an Intimate of Devils with 50 Hell connection. Best to just pick one and stick with it, taking a break when you feel like you need one.
If you want to slowly work towards it while concentrating on other things you can switch up your Profession. Becoming a Correspondent will help with the Royal Beth, and becoming a Licentiate will help with a Premises at the Bazaar. Being a Crooked Cross will get you Muscaria Brandy, but 3 a week isn't going to help nearly as much as getting 4 of the other two items.
Edit: dov's method is my preferred way too. Thefts of a Particular character in the Flit is pretty useful for actively acquiring all three 4-card lodgings (and is probably your best bet in general for getting the Brass Embassy key).
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Aximillio
Posts: 1251
6/8/2014
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The Bazaar has a harder challenge on its opportunity card, but has a much better reward as well. 4 scraps and 200pence compared to the others 3 scraps.
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Mordaine Barimen
Posts: 670
6/8/2014
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Yes, I think it's worth mentioning that you get 3 scrap options on the Beth and Brass Embassy, and the 4 scrap and cash option on the Bazaar, and that these lodging cards show up more often than the others. This really makes a difference when gathering detrius for those high-end items from the Relickers.
Likewise, if you have a Spirifer's Fork, you may want to secure lodgins at the Beth for an additional opportunity, while the Brass Embassy, when upgraded to the 5-card version, will allow you a chance to purchase the Quiet Deviless and/or the Green-Eyed Devil as companions. (Although both companions require Fate to complete the purchase, but that may or may not matter to you.)
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dismallyOriented
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6/8/2014
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I'm grinding War of Assassins for Bazaar permits for the lodgings. Thefts is probably easier, or more efficient. But I need to grind Watchful too, and the University kicked me out. This is my only real option for high level Watchful grinding at the moment, except for stuff out at Zee (which, incidentally, is what I am stat grinding for).
Basically, the grind is lengthy, so if you can address two goals at the same time, you should pick the option that does so.
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Individual99991
Posts: 56
6/8/2014
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Thanks, all. I might just return to my Watcher occupation and forget about the four-card home, and let the mysteries rack up naturally.
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
8/22/2016
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Item: even if you have fifteen hundred echoes ready money and 15 of 50 Antique Mysteries all ready, it's still hard work getting the rest. Relics of the Third City, when purchased, then have to be converted to Mysteries of the Elder Continent en masse, which then have to be converted to Passphrases, which requires Tomb Colonist favours, as does converting the Passphrases to Mysteries.
Fortunately I left the carnival favours alone for a rainy day and so have a stockpile to throw at the conversions, but this is quite a project in itself.
(edit: there are very many easier ways to do this, but I'm in a hurry and value time more than money).
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Dr Cop
Posts: 38
8/22/2016
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It's not the most efficient, but for me the least painful / most enjoyable grind was gathering 80,000 whispered hints for premises at the Bazaar.
You can grind hints. You can also exchange 1000 jade or rostygold for 1,100 whispered hints at the labyrinth of tigers. You can even amass a fortune in rats, trade them in at the Department of Menace Eradication for rostygold, then trade this to the tiger keeper.
You can easily cross-convert just about anything to Tales of Terror!! or Journals of Infamy, convert these to Extraordinary Implications, then head to mutton island to break these implications back down to whispered hints.
Grinding 50 Bazaar permits or Antique Mysteries is a chore, but most storylets provide materials that can eventually be broken back down into whispered hints.
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Reaeh
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8/22/2016
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You can also get 2 antique mysteries on the 4th step of the Fidgeting Writer, but that obviously requires lots of good luck.
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
8/23/2016
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...I wish someone had mentioned that it's far less hassle doing this via honey and notions than by relics. So many tomb colonist favours. I've been to the colonies once and spent all the carnival favours and it still isn't enough.
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BlabberingMat
Posts: 385
8/23/2016
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I still think that cashing out Stripped Delights at Port Carnelian is the most interesting way of grinding mysteries. You get 1 mystery for every 50 stripped delights, plus seven Presbyterate Passphrases
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
8/23/2016
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Port Carnelian is very high level though, as you'll need to have left the Palace, which is a good location in general. Certainly though, it's a lot more fun!
Right now, you can obtain Romantic Notions fairly nicely by Listen to the Drownies' songs (Sights 1-33). Half of the time you'll get Tales of Terror, but otherwise you'll gain 2CP Nightmares, 1 Zee Story, and 1-26 Romantic Notions. The Romantic Notions can eventually be up converted to Bazaar Permits.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
8/23/2016
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Dr Cop wrote:
It's not the most efficient, but for me the least painful / most enjoyable grind was gathering 80,000 whispered hints for premises at the Bazaar.
You can grind hints. You can also exchange 1000 jade or rostygold for 1,100 whispered hints at the labyrinth of tigers. You can even amass a fortune in rats, trade them in at the Department of Menace Eradication for rostygold, then trade this to the tiger keeper.
You can easily cross-convert just about anything to Tales of Terror!! or Journals of Infamy, convert these to Extraordinary Implications, then head to mutton island to break these implications back down to whispered hints.
Grinding 50 Bazaar permits or Antique Mysteries is a chore, but most storylets provide materials that can eventually be broken back down into whispered hints.
Yep honey and hints are the way to go if you're low-levelled. My alt Rudolph got all three lodgings as a non-POSI by faithfully grinding these two and getting the Souls from the Flit.
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Kyron The Wise
Posts: 45
8/24/2016
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My particular route to the Bazaar Permits was through heisting in Flit, getting two permits a go and training my Shadowy in the process. Regardless of which one you go for, I would suggest that you not drop the pursuit. When the Christmas event rolls around, assuming it hasn't changed drastically, you can cheaply upgrade a four card house to one of the shiny five card houses, which is pretty nice.
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
8/24/2016
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I've done it! After two trips to the Tomb Colonies, several trade secrets, several hundred echoes, a number of ring fights, and some nightmares grinding, I have my Royal Beth reservation.
I am off to try this in the Nadir next.
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sosisqua
Posts: 120
8/24/2016
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Individual99991 wrote:
but grinding secrets for those 50 antique mysteries is tedious in the extreme
Depends on for how long you're playing FL. In time you start to see which farm is extreme and which is just dull and repetitive as in some Korean MMOs. All the for-cards are easily farmed for if you're targeted for a 2nd buying options. I've actually Royal Beth lodgings. It took me only 2.5 days of farming Mysteries via Flit and half a day after to gain Nightmares 5 for Merry Gentleman to appear. And i didn't even spend first 2.5 days on just farming, using 5 out of 20 action points on rolling cards and socialising, I'm farming for Yacht now, afterwards getting a Salon or an Orphanage and after that i'm pretty sure i'll get a Bazaar reservation
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Johnny Felix
Posts: 180
8/26/2016
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Perhaps it might interest some people that there is an alternative way to get Premises at the Bazaar: At the Temple Club (ask for an invite at the Singing Mandrake) you can purchase the Lease for 250 Collated Research. It's the same Echo value, but perhaps an easier grind for some players.
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PSGarak
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8/26/2016
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Johnny Felix wrote:
Perhaps it might interest some people that there is an alternative way to get Premises at the Bazaar: At the Temple Club (ask for an invite at the Singing Mandrake) you can purchase the Lease for 250 Collated Research. It's the same Echo value, but perhaps an easier grind for some players.
So by Singing Mandrake, you're referring to the forum and not the in-game place in Veilgarden, correct? I tried to find the Temple Club, which is apparently related to Kickstarter, for which reason the wikis give no further detail.
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BlabberingMat
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8/26/2016
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PSGarak wrote:
Johnny Felix wrote:
Perhaps it might interest some people that there is an alternative way to get Premises at the Bazaar: At the Temple Club (ask for an invite at the Singing Mandrake) you can purchase the Lease for 250 Collated Research. It's the same Echo value, but perhaps an easier grind for some players.
So by Singing Mandrake, you're referring to the forum and not the in-game place in Veilgarden, correct? I tried to find the Temple Club, which is apparently related to Kickstarter, for which reason the wikis give no further detail.
There is a topic in Singing Mandrake subforum, yep
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