Twoflower
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7/27/2012
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Well, then, it's open now! You can start it in Spite if you've finished the Kashmiri Princess part of the story.
So far, it's dealt with either siding with the Masters or the Revolutionaries on issues. It's given me a few "key to your future" qualities, like Empire's Kingmaker and A Power In Waiting. It appears to work on the carousel method, where you do actions to increase a quality until you have enough to do the main storylet.
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Passionario
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1/30/2016
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An Agent of the Masters. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... The Unionist. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. Doing the Rounds. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... The Course of Love. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. A Night of Desperate Ambushes. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... Encryption of a Sort. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. A Salon of a Sort. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... A Strong Box. The Rewards of Intrigue. An Agent of the Masters. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... The Unionist. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. Doing the Rounds. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... The Course of Love. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. A Night of Desperate Ambushes. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... Encryption of a Sort. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. A Salon of a Sort. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing... A Strong Box. You've gained 1x A Boxful of Intrigue. The Rewards of Intrigue. An Agent of the Masters. Empire's Kingmaker is increasing...
Enough. ENOUGH.
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Curses
Posts: 32
8/2/2012
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Gah. For a story which finally gives so many answers, it seems there are even more loose ends. Regardless, it has found a place in my favorite storylets of all time. I have quite a few theories, but the nothing seems to explain every single detail we've been given. Perhaps (spoilers and mad guessing EVERYWHERE) the Masters only value a city based on how much love they can, erm, harvest, specifically the greatest source and reason they stole the city in the first place, the love between the current ruler and his or her consort, and the Masters curse the consort to speed the process along. The Widow said that, when the game of the box finally ended, her city fell; while the crab was in there, which was never actually explained how it got in there, there were also the love letters, allegedly stolen from Mr Fires by Mr Stones. If the box was opened and the city fell, that may imply that the love letters were found by Yesterday's King, thus ending the romance (assuming that they were from another lover, although I'm truly praying Mr Fires only stole them, not wrong them *gags*). Thus, if my absurd theories are correct, the love of the rulers are what keeps the city together, and is why Mr Fires is trying to get this "moon milk" to rekindle the romance, which may be why he has so many dirigibles, thus saving the city and keeping the Bazaar there. Of course, this doesn't explain why Fires *does* want the Bazaar there, nor why most of the other Masters don't, and practically nothing else.
Excuse the length of the previous ramblings. In other news, I'd love to know about the Mr Stones ending... If anyone were to have it, I would be incredibly grateful to be messaged it, given a link to their journal which has said ending echoed, or given a place to find it, perhaps the wiki or something. Doing so would grant my eternal gratitude. Although I'm not quite sure that's a good thing.
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Twoflower
Posts: 264
7/27/2012
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Oh, gods. If you pick an option that changes your siding to the other faction, you get a quality called A Turncoat. Get 4 of this quality, and all the normal options lock. You get a new storylet which has a Shadowy check which most likely won't raise Affair of the Box, even on a success, an option to trade in some of your Connected: Masters to raise it, a 5 Fate option that removes the Turncoat quality, or a Connected: Revolutionaries option to raise it.
The Shadowy option is too slow, I'm definitely not trading the Connected: Masters, and I don't like Revolutionaries...guess I should get some Fate.
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MaskedGentleman
Posts: 339
7/29/2012
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Seven is the number.
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I would like to thank this community and game for the many years of joy you have brought me. May you find your Heart's Desire.
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MaskedGentleman
Posts: 339
8/1/2012
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Based on another piece of text available from the conversion stories " The Masters are the pets of the Bazaar", then the Masters being caught by the Bazaar certainly makes sense. Also, when a certain hanged university professor was hung for his radical theory that the Bazaar bought not just cities, but servants. Draw what conclusions you may.
I'm more curious who Hell's Exile is.
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BaronElectric
Posts: 68
8/1/2012
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I've echoed Fire's path to my profile as well.
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malthaussen
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2/16/2016
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I looked at that before I asked, as it happened. But because it didn't specify that no turncoat would result from a choice, I wanted to mak siccar. Having to kill the Turncoat quality would be annoying, especially because I had no idea I would get it (I try to enter new content relatively blind, to increase the charm).
@Robin Mask: as a fellow Kingmaker, I salute thee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EMx7Y16Vo
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Chris Gardiner
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Posts: 539
8/2/2012
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Twoflower wrote:
When troublemakers have a loaded gun, they tend not to point it at their foot.
I dunno, the figures on accidental self-inflicted gunshot wounds are a little alarming.
I'm being flippant, but this is a really interesting thing we've discovered while writing Fallen London. When a game has as many players as this one there's always someone, even a sizeable number of someones, who will take the option that seems self-destructive. Travellersside has explained his motives above, very clearly, and this is what the Mr. Eaten storyline is all about.
When Alexis wrote the Face-Tailor story and included an option that let you throw the idol in the river I confidently predicted that no-one would ever do it. Who would pass up cool story like that? Here's how wrong I was.
And beyond the minority of people that will choose these options, there's a more significant point about choice in interactive narrative, here. If Nigel hadn't provided the Mr. Stones option, the choice that you'd be presented with would be much more shallow. The fact you chose not to do it makes the choice you did make more meaningful. If that makes sense. It's especially interesting in a game with a community like this one, where people swap the results of their decisions like trading cards. The consequences of the Mr. Stones choice have become a hot commodity!
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/16/2016
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malthaussen wrote:
I looked at that before I asked, as it happened. But because it didn't specify that no turncoat would result from a choice, I wanted to mak siccar. Having to kill the Turncoat quality would be annoying, especially because I had no idea I would get it (I try to enter new content relatively blind, to increase the charm).
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Yeah turncoat is quite a bummer.
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It burns a lot of CP Masters:Revolutionaries or a point of Connected: Masters
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Asclepius Unbound
Posts: 389
8/1/2012
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WordsLikeWeeds wrote:
I finished with the Kashmiri Princess, but I don't see any new options in Spite. Am I waiting for a card? Do I need a certain level of a stat? (I'm around 120 in everything.)
Two possibilities:
1) Your Shadowy is just below 120. It needs to be 120 or higher.
2) Scroll down.
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BaronElectric
Posts: 68
8/2/2012
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
...but some people are troublemakers.
Apparently not, considering I haven't seen anyone yet who's chosen that option.
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travellersside
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8/2/2012
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I would like to point out that the reason that I chose Mr. Stones was the same reason that I Seek the Name - Both my character and myself have a boundless curiosity, and since nobody else seems to have taken that route, I had no choice. I had to take it.
It's debatable whether it's a bad idea for my character. You see, he knows full well that whoever rules a City will fall when the City is dropped, but he's also heard something rather intriguing - before London, the Masters worked alone. Now though, they have people working for them. Employees. Lieutenants. Agents. If handled correctly, there's the hint of a possibility that he'd be in on the ground floor. He's gambling against the possibility of a great deal of power. Not to mention that acquiring a Sixth City will take a lot of work Above, and you can hardly use Clay Men for that. He has ambitions.
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Twoflower
Posts: 264
8/3/2012
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wlerin wrote:
It doesn't want to destroy London for some reason, ...
No... it just wants to enslave it.
Stones doesn't want to destroy the Fifth City, he wants to move on to the Sixth. And while the Fourth City doesn't seem to have fared very well following the arrival of the Fifth, it does seem at least possible that the cities before that carry on a sort of existence elsewhere in the Neath, beyond the meddling of the Masters.
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Actually, if the other Cities somehow made it across the Zee, what if the Second City was North? It'd certainly explain why the Masters hate it so much.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/16/2016
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malthaussen wrote:
This is my first time through the loop, and I've already acquired turncoat two by mis-clicking and then correcting the error. Now I am at the Duchess's Salon (so not so very far along), with the opportunity to steer the conversation to either of two Masters. Query whether the selection will increase Turncoat if I pick the wrong Master, or are both conversations neutral in this?
-- Mal
You won't get turncoat menace CP regardless of your choice of Master according to the wikia.
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Asclepius Unbound
Posts: 389
8/1/2012
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Massive [SPOILER] warning, but if anyone has taken the non-newspaper paths and would like to see what the newspaper one is like, I've echoed it on my profile.
Again, fairly obviously, spoilers.
If anyone would like to share the other two paths with me via PM, I'd be grateful. Rather curious.
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Asclepius Unbound
Posts: 389
8/1/2012
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Urthdigger wrote:
You need the Meritorious one at 1.
Bless you.
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Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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streetfelineblue
Posts: 1459
7/27/2012
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Twoflower wrote:
Oh, gods. If you pick an option that changes your sidings to the other faction, you get a quality called A Turncoat. Get 4 of this quality, and all the normal options lock. You get a new storylet which has a Shadowy check which most likely won't raise Affair of the Box, even on a success, an option to trade in some of your Connected: Masters to raise it, a 5 Fate option that removes the Turncoat quality, or a Connected: Revolutionaries option to raise it.
The Shadowy option is too slow, I'm definitely not trading the Connected: Masters, and I don't like Revolutionaries...guess I should get some Fate.
That's good to know, though for once I was quite sure about what to do ^^ Thanks!
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
7/28/2012
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Asclepius Unbound wrote:
I've been mainlining my entire stash of Darkdrop Coffee to get through this story (Impatient? Never!) and ... without spoilers, I believe I need to increase my renown as a newspaper editor. Can anyone advise on how to do this?
Grind for Whirling Contraptions at either Wilmont's End or in the War of Assassins. New titles for each Prophet, Cardinal and Defender are at 1, 3, 5 and 10.
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