phryne
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9/3/2016
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Robin Alexander wrote:
phryne wrote:
You do know that in British English, "corn" doesn't mean "corn" but "wheat"? What Americans call "corn" is "maize" in Britain... 
I'm confused?
'Wheat' in Britain is just 'wheat' . . . we don't call it 'corn': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat#Naming
"Maize" is fair enough . . . I guess for us 'corn' is more sweetcorn.
Maybe where you live
Mind you, I'm not British myself... the reality seems even more confusing though: according to the wiktionary definition, corn can mean wheat, barley or even oats, depending on where you are!***
So the "corn beer" of Mutton Island could be regular barley-made as well as wheat beer... but I really don't believe that "corn" here is used in its US meaning, since the whole game is explicitly written in British English.
*** though maybe those definitions are dated and current usage differs widely....?!
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Lord Hoot
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9/3/2016
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Corn is a general term for cereal crops, but it's also understood as a synonym for maize. All beer is made from some kind of cereal so I don't think it would be a detail worth mentioning unless it was specifically corn/maize, which is very unusual.
On the other hand they don't really drink much beer of any sort in the Neath, presumably because they need plants to make it with.
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phryne
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In a rare success for speaking to the incognito Master at the Carnival, Mr Wines explicitly mentions the maize-wine of the Third City.....
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Appolonia
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9/3/2016
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Happy to talk IC about 3rd city (MesoAmerican) beliefs, rituals, and ceremonies relevant to this topic, and wells and sacrifices in general.
If you are interested in this lore, look me up in game!
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MrUnderhill89
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9/3/2016
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Hmm. The text doesn't just say "corn," but "an ear of corn," which makes me think it means the American kind. You'd figure wheat or barley would be referred to in bushels.
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shylarah
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9/3/2016
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An ear of corn simply means that guy was the now-Mr.-Apples (foodstuffs and farming). If it's the third city, then it would have been American, and corn as in corn on the cob would be a common foodsource. Can't weigh in on drinks or beer or whatever. ^.^;;
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The Duke of Waltham
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MrUnderhill89 wrote:
Hmm. The text doesn't just say "corn," but "an ear of corn," which makes me think it means the American kind. You'd figure wheat or barley would be referred to in bushels.
The expression "ear of corn" is perfectly likely to refer to wheat, and in the past you would have heard it at least as often as "ear of wheat". You can find it in literary expressions, or in language such as that found in heraldic descriptions.
phryne wrote:
Apart from that, I don't think Mutton Island and Hunter's Keep are among those "suburbs" of London that fell... I think they're part of the general Unterzee geography and therefore far older than Fallen London.
There's a clue that Mutton Island descended with London in the text of "Dinner in the Fallen Columns" (completed by the facetious line in the result, "Pull up a bas-relief and sit yer arse down"). Even if classical architecture could be found in the First City (though probably not in the Second and definitely not in the Third or Fourth), neo-classical is a product of the modern age, in this case Georgian or Victorian. And it's safe to assume that Londoners didn't build a big library after the Fall in that particular location.
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