Miss Eustacia
Posts: 14
6/17/2012
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I put forth this question somewhat diffidently, as despite not having seen it addressed, I could be mistaken, and about to make an utter peagoose of myself in the asking. So I do beg the pardon of all gentlefolk, and most sincerely request aid in this endeavour.
I am aware of the importance of having garments and accoutrements befitting my rank, but my lack of funds is making this an impossible task. I hesitate to sell what few assets I have accumulated, for fear they will become important in the future, and I will bemoan their loss.
If you would please be so kind as to proffer some suggestions as to how a gentlewoman of reduced means could rectify this matter, I should be most grateful.
I remain,
Miss Eustacia Witheringham-Thynn
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Branden Linton
Posts: 391
6/17/2012
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Disregard ladies,
accumulate echoes.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
Posts: 787
6/17/2012
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I suppose you are not yet a Person of Some Importance (PoSI)?
I'd suggest selling Glim, Moon-pearls, Jade, Deep Amber, Nevercold Brass and Rostygold at the Bazaar. These things are the most frequent rewards for storylets, you'll never be without them for long. Do hold on to your Whispered Secrets and Cryptic Clues, especially if you're still in the early stages of the game. They will both be quite hard to come by at some point.
Also, do not sell those items that cannot be bought at the Bazaar. They will, for the most part, be useful for something later on.
If your qualities (Watchful, Persuasive, Dangerous, Shadowy) are around 40 or higher, investing a bit of Fate to go Shroom-hopping can be a good idea. You can stay at the Shroom-hopping course as long as you like, the rewards are plenty and can be cashed in later at the Bazaar.
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armadaos
Posts: 95
6/19/2012
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Miss Eustacia wrote:
My highest stat is Persuasion at 25, my lowest is dangerous at 1.
I went through quite a large swath of the london, in my Faded Morning Suit, some scuffed boots. (One does not want to walk barefoot on the lanes of london if one can help it)
but at your levels, i'd say relax, pick up a talkative rat, a ridiculous hat, and a bottled oblivion. They may seem useless now, but you can wear them to allow you level quicker, (Ie some options don't give menaces when you lose, so you'd like to level on those, as opposed items your level which may give menaces, so if you put them on that really easy straightforward option that gives no menaces if you lose, now becomes Chancy/Modest and you can level quicker on chancy/modest than you can straightforward)
You'll soon start acquiring a number of goods and an inventory, as a rule of thumb, anything that fits into the item inventories (academic/cartography/elder/infernal/influence/luminosity/nostalgia/rag trade/rumor/wild words/wines) are of a little more value than any Goods, and most times when you *need* something by that point you should be able to manage your expenses around to do it, no problem.
So relax, enjoy London! Money and fame will come, as well connections, a street urchin with a silver tongue can work their ways up to the highest ranks of society, in time, but you've got to work your way up first with the Bohemians, if you're to stand any chance of seducing nobles in their own halls!
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
6/19/2012
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The common consensus is split between three ways of thinking as to the best way for PoSI to gain Echoes.
Some say it's Hunter's Keep which is over 1.5 Echo per action. This bumps up a bit depending on the level of frequency of the Searing Enigma. I got 38 out of 200 rounds, making it quite a profitable adventure. Not only does this path grant you some Eyes of Icarus and the like, the lack of opportunity cards means you can really focus on Echo grinding without being tempted to up things like Dreams and Quirks. On the other hand, you can't up things like Dreams and Quirks, which is something you just can't buy.
Others think the University/Flit exploit is most lucrative, garnering somewhere between 1.53 and 1.56 Echoes per action. They aren't wrong.
I do not think there is a more controversial storylet than The Fidgeting Writer. Love it or hate it, few are luke warm about it. Almost everything you need for it is easily grindable in the Flit and subsequent conversion, except Identities and Mourning Candles. Some have claimed this nets them in excess of 2 Echoes per action. Others have used the similar numbers with far more disastrous results. We do not, as yet, have enough data to give an accurate Echo per action projection. However, a cursory glance at the odds, the rewards and a familiarity with the law of large numbers suggests this may be one of the most profitable storylets for the sole purpose of accumulating Echoes as long as you are willing to put in the massive amount of thought, time and effort needed to work it. That being said, it is very frustrating to a lot of people. The elation you get from luck success rarely counterbalances the since of failure you get with a loss, even if success are more numerous. I am weary of recommending a course of action which will turn people off to the game, no matter how profitable; so proceed with whichever path you find most suits your needs.
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Spacemarine9
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2/6/2014
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If it helps your calculations, I am fairly sure these are the odds descriptions for different probabilities (like i've said elsewhere, Luck is a Narrow challenge so it increases in increments of 10%, all characters have 0 Luck because the RNG hates you and that's how the mechanic works, also)
bam feast your eyes
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100%- A sure thing. Or is it?
90%- How can you fail?
80%- Pretty good odds
70%- Pretty good odds
60%- It could go either way
50%- It could go either way
40%- The odds are against you here
30%- The odds are strongly against you here
20%- The odds are strongly against you here
10%- A long shot... but you might win
(minimum odds are 10%)
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...unless FL uses a different DifficultyScalar for luck, which is possible but fairly unlikely.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
Posts: 787
6/17/2012
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Miss Eustacia wrote:
I am most assuredly not a Person of Some Importance, save to myself, and my qualities are barely half those listed,... I find myself in need of gloves, footwear, and a hat, (preferably a cunning hat) to suit my station in life, and having never acquired any rostygold, ,nor amber, no brass, am not sure what is best to sell, though I do have more of an idea than I did before all of your instructive responses.
So you're indeed very early in the game. Don't worry, all will be well. It's not unusual that you do not have a lot of equipment yet. Or any equipment, really. Just keep playing, it all will come to you in time 
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Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely.
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
6/18/2012
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Almost all storylets are going to give commensurate rewards depending on your rank. At this stage:
Disregard Echoes.
Acquire stats.
You should be grinding stat change cp and ignoring clothing, hats, etc. until much further down the line. A good rule of thumb in that regard is to only get either the best clothing(that which conveys the highest bonuses) unless you need certain items to unlock storylet, which you will. This being the case, save your Echoes until you need to buy something for the next leg of a story(like at The University) or until you have enough of an item that you feel confident enough to sell it in order to get the best item you can.
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Nigel Overstreet
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6/18/2012
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Indeed, stat control is very important, which is why you should make use of items which give negatives as well.
Chancy doesn't always give 3cp. Only at the higher half of chancy. The lower half only gives 2cp. The odds for all these levels are unknown and likely to remain so. The first is the one you want to take to stat cap as quickly as possible. You should try, when possible, to keep yourself at that level when doing storylets to get the most stat increase per action. Especially when you find upper echelon storylets which do not grant menaces. That is, if indeed, your goal is Echo accumulation.
The amount of Echoes you will gain on the way to becoming stat capped will pale in comparison to those you will garner once you're there.
Indeed you'll find at later levels you are the sort of person who doesn't even get out of bed for less than 1 Echo per action. Once you're there, you're going to want to get the best items because...well, they're just cool! It's cool to have the neatest and fanciest gadgets to put up on your mantelpiece to proclaim "Look at me and all my cool things!" There is no in-game reason for this other than the sheer elation of feeling brilliant.
The lesser items are fine, I guess, but I'm told most folks sold them off a while back as a sacrifice to an Overgoat or something. This isn't always the case. Other folks like to have every item in the game. Also a legitimate strategy. My overall point is that you should, at lower levels, be more concerned about increasing stats than gaining Echoes(And to a greater extent you should be FAR more concerned about experiencing the stories as you progress through the levels than either.) There will be plenty of time for mind numbing, Echo grinding later.
As a side note, you often don't want to sell anything unless you need something. Those 6k Whispered Secrets may be burning a hole in your pocket now, but you might regret selling them when the Handsome Townhouse* card comes up. Especially if you used those Echoes to buy some hobnailed boots or something you are just going to turn around and sell in a month or so anyway with the surely & regretful notion that you've lost half the Echoes you've spent on them and the pennies you're garnered in their use have hardly made up for their cost.
*It's what it used to cost. I don't know if that's changed to something else now. Neither here nor there.
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