Helen Demeter
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2/15/2014
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And now for something a little bit different!
Has anyone else heard of this club? I was checking a character's account and in the Messages I see there's an invitation of some sort. A Procurer-General is asking for my help for a club that has an 'inexhaustible' appetite for novelties. Problem is I can't hit 'Go' for it since I 'must be in to play this' which is a bit confusing. I assume I need to have a membership of sorts? Hoe does one get this and if you need to be in it in the first place, why send one out to someone who is not part of it at all? Does anyone have an idea what they mean by novelties?
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Helen Demeter, the Bohemian Beauty
Has finally returned after an unexpected hiatus. Please mind the dust but do know that I'm now open to all social actions and invitations.
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Chris Gardiner
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2/19/2014
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I want to point out that my tentacles aren't pleonectic, they're frondular.
And Paul's tentacles are... y'know. Arty.
I couldn't speak to everyone else's tentacles. I try not to enquire.
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Flyte
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2/18/2014
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lady ciel wrote:
Yes just as the Portly Sommelier actually became more useful it was one of the cards whose frequency was reduced (at least I saw Flyte say so on the forum here...) Err, nope. Its frequency was reduced quite some time ago; certainly before Alexis decided to start writing weekly snippets, or make one of them De Gustibus, or add a branch unlocked by Masters' Blood.
I'm not entirely sure if this was meant as an observation or as a complaint. If the latter, well -- the card was widely complained about during the community consultation. So it has since become both less frequent and more useful. If as a result of these changes, made in response to community feedback, players have gone from seeing it as an annoyance to regarding it as a useful part of that deck -- doesn't that count as a success?
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Flyte
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Posts: 671
2/19/2014
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Lady Red wrote:
Perhaps it is a little churlish of me to complain, but it does strike me as a slightly bizarre reaction to complaints that a card is too frequent and not useful to a). change the card so that it's extremely useful and simultaneously b). reduce the frequency so much that the card only pops up once every few weeks. Make one of those changes, yes - but why both? Now, instead of complaining that the card comes too frequently, all the community are going to do is complain it doesn't come frequently enough! Not churlish at all! The thing to bear in mind is that, in so far as the card has become more useful, it is only so for a rather small subset of players: those in need of rare Wines items. If it still appeared with standard frequency, I suspect it would still be looked upon as a nuisance by many players.
Incidentally, I have always been puzzled by players' dislike for the card: the lower level conversions it offers have always been unusually profitable, and I always played it when I could.
We've received some requests to make the Sommelier summonable via Favourable Circumstances. This strikes me as a good idea, though I'd personally prefer to wait until the current snippet has expired. Otherwise I foresee allegations that we're picking players' pockets with our pleonectic tentacles, and I'm a little tired just now of dealing with them.
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IHNIWTR
Posts: 346
2/18/2014
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Petrel, this object is obscenely rare. Much more so than M.B., and I'd even say much more valuable not just in terms of what you can do with it (which isn't much, atm) but in terms of its in-fiction implications. it's one of the most coveted things in all of London, and possibly before.
And because I feel the need to share, I'll note that I arranged for Favourable Circumstances right after the trade and immediatly betrayed the revolutionaries. They were a despicable means to an end, and now it's time to disavow any association. I only wonder if I want to realign myself with the criminals now that I'm a free agent.
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A B Nile
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2/18/2014
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Greed got the better of me. After months and months of keeping the Nadir's location a secret, I sold it to the hated Calendar Council for some M.B., which I have now exchanged for the book. I just hope I haven't given them too much of an advantage when it'll come to fight their Liberation of Night...
You have. Freeing yourself of your connection to them does not change the fact that they now have that most valuable piece of information. For shame, sir. For shame.
I'd happily give up Master's Blood for the book, but only once I've obtained it through another means (which I will not have time to do in the week that the Apicus story line will stay up, sadly).
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My profile: A B Nile
My alt: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
(seeking Acquaintances and accepting all social actions)
Item conversion table - finally complete with all rare successes!
Bloody, bold and resolute
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Cocytus
Posts: 187
2/18/2014
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Well, the problem could be the opposite, IHNIWTR; their success may be inevitable regardless of whether or not one ever furthers the Liberation of Night, and thus those of us who refuse to assist them are depriving ourselves for nothing.
That said, I hope we eventually get the chance to fight them, and maybe even win.
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Cocytus, the Avuncular Wordsmith, a river outside a box.
Stock Titus, a rapturous individual ahead of its time. (Dormant)
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dov
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2/18/2014
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I've also decided to sacrifice my Masters' Blood.
The text snippet for the exchange was a bit disappointing given the cost and rarity of the item in question, but I don't regret the actual exchange for the following reasons:
- I'm a sucker for hording really rare items, so the Crimson Book is tempting to have. (This is also why I haven't sold the location of the Nadir to anyone; I've bought my vial of Masters' Blood the expensive way).
- Since I never intend to actually sell the Masters' Blood at the bazaar (terrible idea anyway) or the Crimson Book, their Echo value is meaningless to me - just their rarity value.
- I can always get more Masters' Blood (with hard work), but this seems like a one time chance to get the Crimson Book.
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 Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Inky Petrel
Posts: 370
2/19/2014
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Just a drive-by comment to say that "pleonectic" is an *excellent* word. I had to google. I love when that happens 
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Re: Fallen London, please don't invite me to things or send me things, I'm only on occasionally, so you will waste your candle  Thank you.
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Lady Red
Posts: 517
2/19/2014
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Flyte wrote:
lady ciel wrote:
Yes just as the Portly Sommelier actually became more useful it was one of the cards whose frequency was reduced (at least I saw Flyte say so on the forum here...) Err, nope. Its frequency was reduced quite some time ago; certainly before Alexis decided to start writing weekly snippets, or make one of them De Gustibus, or add a branch unlocked by Masters' Blood.
I'm not entirely sure if this was meant as an observation or as a complaint. If the latter, well -- the card was widely complained about during the community consultation. So it has since become both less frequent and more useful. If as a result of these changes, made in response to community feedback, players have gone from seeing it as an annoyance to regarding it as a useful part of that deck -- doesn't that count as a success?
Perhaps it is a little churlish of me to complain, but it does strike me as a slightly bizarre reaction to complaints that a card is too frequent and not useful to a). change the card so that it's extremely useful and simultaneously b). reduce the frequency so much that the card only pops up once every few weeks. Make one of those changes, yes - but why both? Now, instead of complaining that the card comes too frequently, all the community are going to do is complain it doesn't come frequently enough!
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
2/19/2014
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It was an observation - not a complaint. Though I always liked the Portly Sommelier card, even before the introduction of the possibility of getting Master's Blood. It was one of my favourite money making opportunity cards, of course I regret all the Airag I sold now (adding smiley as I don't want to come across as critical)
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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Malgorath
Posts: 124
2/18/2014
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Has anyone dared choose St Cerise? Seven actions and the candle. It's makes me very curious, but that was the hardest candle for me to obtain...
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Malgorath - A new member of the Neath.
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Evariste S. Crumbledon
Posts: 138
2/18/2014
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Alas, with the Portly Sommelier in hiding (I haven't seen him in a week, when we used to have lengthy conversations on quite a regular basis!), it'll probably take an awful long time to convert 175 Cellars into 1 vial..
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Melesse
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2/17/2014
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The text is here. You get a Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book in return.
edited by Melesse on 2/17/2014
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Úviéla i Bazaaro, illumë yétamelessé.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
2/18/2014
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The story stays after you have given them something. So you can visit and give them as much as you want.
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ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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Cocytus
Posts: 187
2/18/2014
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A B Nile wrote:
You have. Freeing yourself of your connection to them does not change the fact that they now have that most valuable piece of information. For shame, sir. For shame.
I'd happily give up Master's Blood for the book, but only once I've obtained it through another means (which I will not have time to do in the week that the Apicus story line will stay up, sadly).
Thanks, A B Nile. I was actually considering giving the accursed Revolutionaries the location of the Nadir for a few moments, but you have steeled my resolve. No book is worth helping them to bury all in universal darkness; for a start, it'd be hard to read the damned thing.
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Cocytus, the Avuncular Wordsmith, a river outside a box.
Stock Titus, a rapturous individual ahead of its time. (Dormant)
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IHNIWTR
Posts: 346
2/18/2014
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honestly, I'm really regretting it now. I guess it's sort of the point? A moment of greed leading to a bad decision and a glittering price, but at a terrible cost?
I just hope I haven't screwed myself over too badly here. I'd love a challenge in taking down the Liberation, and if I had previously helped advancing it then it would make for some lovely pathos, but I wouldn't want to have just ensured their inevitable success...
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