 Inky Petrel Posts: 370
2/3/2014
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Original query has been answered (thank you ) but this is probably still a useful thread title.
The feast. discuss. :p edited by Inky Petrel on 2/19/2014
-- Re: Fallen London, please don't invite me to things or send me things, I'm only on occasionally, so you will waste your candle Thank you.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
2/12/2014
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You know what they say about Mr Eaten - a Master in the streets, but Eaten in the oh god what am I even saying.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
2/18/2014
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Gillsing wrote:
The Pirate Poet kind of underwhelms me... Or should her +2 +2 be interpreted as the amount of aid she's willing to lend to the player, and not the limit of her abilities? Emphatically the latter. Here's her description:Every yard of her clay skin is crammed with tattooed poetry. 'Wrote it myself.' She looks you up and down. 'Think you're worth a verse?' This is, intentionally and emphatically, expressive of very limited investment on her part in the player character. This is intended as a fictional justification for the low stats, which are to balance her very low Masquing requirement -- which was not set like that to devalue her, but to make a particularly engaging character available to everyone.
It's possible there will be opportunities in future to deepen the relationship, with concomitant effects on stats.
bertrandwins wrote:
I'm very curious about nerfing the use of scorn to trade for masquing. Is it that imbalanced a mechanism that the nerf had to be done in the middle of the event, and couldn't wait till the next year?
From a game design perspective I'm eager to hear what constitutes the imbalance, particularly if it countermands the game design objectives of the Feast. Sure. It encouraged people to gain Masquing by repeating one branch of one storylet over and over, which is boring. We wanted to encourage people to explore the rest of the content, so we made the Feast of the Rose card even more common (roughly ten times as common a normal card). It links to any of fifteen or so different storylets depending on the current Airs value, all of which offer opportunities to increase Masquing -- and often make ~2.5 Echoes per action at the same time. There is a lot of Feast-specific content which many players didn't seem to be aware of; the change rewards them for exploring it, rather than pressing the same button over and over, like a rat in a Skinner box.
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 Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670
2/15/2014
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I, for one, would be terribly amused if during the 10K Prep wedding, Mr. Iron arrived and held up a sign stating simply, "DISAPPOINTED." edited by Mordaine Barimen on 2/15/2014
-- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums.
If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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 Fhoenix Posts: 602
2/17/2014
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Gifts of Scorn were just nerfed and now cap at 5 masquing. So everybody should probably stop grinding the wheel for gifts... and start grinding... appalling secrets? Oh and if you have 44 Gifts of Scorn like me right now... then you know how I feel.
-- My Character
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 Flidget Posts: 88
2/19/2014
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Can I whinge about the soft cap on masquing at 25 when both the higher Nex-locked gifts and petpanions are in multiples of 10?
I get that removing the cap from the 5-nex gifts would allow too many shenanigans with the free start-up nex people receive but surely you can raise the soft cap to 30 without issues? All the higher-level companions are over 40 so you'd still have those remaining 10 points remain functionally Nex-locked. edited by Flidget on 2/19/2014
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 Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539
2/19/2014
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patwalsh_2000 wrote:
Great news also that we will learn more about this story. We don't know when or if we'll get a chance to do more Sophia and Soap comics but believe me there are only, like, three things in the whole world that I want to do more. And one of those is "be Han Solo".
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 Lady Red Posts: 517
2/18/2014
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I prefer to spend my Nex on storylines rather than items, so I'm probably not going to spend much/any on this year's festival - unless there's a fun storylet to unlock later in the month! I did spend a reasonable amount last year, and I confess I rarely look or use the petpanions my money went on, and given that they don't have cards, most of the time I don't remember they're there. Personally, I would prefer to spend 50/100 Nex upfront and then get to woo a companion through a series of storylets and opp cards, winning them in the end... but then the world isn't arranged solely for me, alas Though I guess the new wooing/wedding social actions are basically that, except you don't have the option of marrying a NPC.
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 Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374
2/15/2014
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Good Lord yes, weddings are intended as a permanent feature. The Feast of the Rose is just a suitable launch-pad, and a propitious time of year.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
2/17/2014
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Sorry, folks. As the Sage of Ontario once said, when people are really upset about a nerf, it generally means that there was a serious imbalance. We had to close that loophole.
Oh well at least I managed to get the new low masquing petpanions before the new cap. I'm still very unhappy about the changes. Fallen London used to be a game you could play without social actions. I don't mind so much about not being able to afford the Nex to do everything I want but being locked out of things still doesn't feel good. At least last year you could do things on your own, even if it took a lot of rare successes and some serious grinding.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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 dismallyOriented Posts: 215
2/12/2014
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Nightmares increasing to 77. Thanks a lot, Tanah-Chook.
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 Ed Rolison Posts: 57
2/17/2014
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I have to say - what particularly bothered me about last year - and still does this year - is that you need someone else to spend money on you top obtain a particular companion. This doesn't sit well with me. I don't mind social actions, nor do I mind them being an easier way of doing things. However, I'd _really_ like an option to invest my own fate points on my own fate locked content. (Which wasn't entirely fate locked last year, but practically speaking was).
(I'd also hoped that last years 'festival of the rose' 'pets' would be an option for constant companions by now)
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 Quixoticcat Posts: 64
2/19/2014
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Jack-of-Similes wrote:
The explosion of neath-colours is as useful as ballet shoes on a clay man. Exchange it.
I now desperately want to see Clay Man "SWAN LAKE". It's up there with Elcor "Hamlet".
-- Character name: Sardonyx. Please feel free to send me social invitations of all sorts.
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 Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539
2/19/2014
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patwalsh_2000 wrote:
I keep thinking about Sophia and Soup, though. What if more of their story starts to unfold through FL and I don't get to enjoy because I draw their cards? I feel like a newbie again, very nervous about making the right decisions. Any thoughts on whether or not these two will have cards/story lines? Don't worry - if we do more with Sophia and Soap in the game they'll likely be minor characters and we'll make sure you can enjoy it whether you have them as companions or not.
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 mayexist Posts: 132
2/18/2014
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Alexander Nonymous wrote:
What is the frequency on the card that allows you to trade in masquing for companions? I've only seen it once, at the very beginning of the feast, before I had acquired any masquing, and never since then. I've had Lilac show up a number of times and been unable to use her as I maxed the 25 level for non-fate masquing the first time she appeared, and I've seen the other feast opportunity card quite regularly. I'm beginning to get a little desperate for the opportunity to trade masquing in. Is this card extremely rare?
No, it's Abundant but the RNG can smell your desperation and will withhold it out of pure malice. As the game says, 'Relax on a chaise longue. Enjoy the perfumed smoke and music. Try a hookah. Appreciate the dancers. Isn't this what life's all about?'. Show the RNG that you're not at all affected by its fickle moods. The card will appear as soon as it realizes that it's not getting a reaction out of you.
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 Reshemin Posts: 226
2/21/2014
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
That was an error in the text: The Stiff-Backed Young Lady has better core stats than the Gentleman of Undisclosed Business, but doesn't give a point of Respectable (while he does give a point of Dreaded). We've corrected the text.
errm, sorry but... are you really sure that error was with the text...? Feels more like the other way around to me...
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 LadyTarvish Posts: 7
2/21/2014
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Man, I get that the wheel of affection was too easy to abuse last year, but it feels like the nerf went too far in the other way, locking out all but the low-level petpanions to those who can't drop the fate, or don't have friends willing to gift them fate-locked items. It doesn't help most of the Feast of the Rose actions seem to cap their masquing gains at 19.
I have fate but - as much as I like the green-eyed devil, I'm not going to drop $20USD worth for him.
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/21/2014
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Especially not when you can wait a while and then drop 20 USD for him, the Deviless, and still have an Exceptional Friendship left over.
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 Owen Wulf Posts: 715
2/21/2014
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I am simply bummed that the only way to get masquing high enough for the new spouse options seems to be to expend a massive amount of Fate and real world cash. I certainly hope the devs throw us something special at the end of the season like they did with Halloween and Christmas. Perhaps a one time useable that allows you to get one of the new available spouses? One can dream...
---- edited by Owen Wulf on 2/21/2014
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/21/2014
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Mordaine Barimen wrote:
The Last COnstable apparently has enemies amongst the devs as well, as she's the only Feast Companion at that Masquing level without any BRD. She's also 1 point of Shadowy more than the Affable Spy for four times the price.
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 Violetta Posts: 21
2/19/2014
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Emphatically: Surely you must be my true love. Sadly: No, I am. She is an imposter. I will now die instead.
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/18/2014
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patwalsh_2000 wrote:
Any thoughts on whether or not these two will have cards/story lines? Probably not, although I do wish the Feast companions had opp cards attached to them, especially if they were City Vices cards.
In other news, I'm trying to split up fate between Masquing and the Feast non-companion items I want. I have 11 fate from the Mysteries left on my main, and the ideal set of gifts would cost 110 fate, but I can't wire the set of 10 fate to my alt through the Give a Gift card anymore. Does anybody know the username of the guy who abused the 10-fate gift with his Sunless Sea un-pledge? I'd like to mail him violent boxes of rats as retribution for the inconvenience. edited by OPG on 2/18/2014
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 DrBobTudor Posts: 3
2/17/2014
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I played FL as a solo player for the last year without purchasing any locked content. Just last month I decided to become an exceptional friend and begin using Nex to get at the additional stories. My interest in the game, which was already very high, skyrocketed. About the same time various folks began contacting me with requests and this added yet another dimension to the FL experience. Seeing me disappear so often to "take my turns," my wife became intrigued enough to start a character. Now she is addicted to FL. With the Feast of the Rose we have begun sharing gifts.
The point of my rambling is that the social interactions have made me appreciate the world even more. I am having a richer experience in FL and I'm getting to meet an awful lot of incredibly nice people. A few months ago I would never have considered taking part in the social interactions; now I can't imagine not doing so.
DrBobTudor edited by DrBobTudor on 2/17/2014
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/DrBobTudor
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
2/12/2014
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
You know what they say about Mr Eaten - a Master in the streets, but Eaten in the oh god what am I even saying.
Scandal has increased to 77 - (I wish that post was) Unthinkable!
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 babelfishwars Administrator Posts: 1152
2/4/2014
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Loon wrote:
Even if marriages to other players don't come with stat bonuses, I don't care, Krawald has had hir eyes on someone for a long time. Now let's just hope she reciprocates.
Oh, you! *flutters eyelashes*
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 Playersideblog Posts: 397
2/13/2014
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
You know what they say about Mr Eaten - a Master in the streets, but Eaten in the oh god what am I even saying. I was going to give that a thumbs-up, but then I noticed there were seven thumbs-up already.
-- My profile
I am now a Correspondent, and no longer able to accept invitations as an Author. (Or so I believe.)
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
2/14/2014
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I am going to be very unhappy if there aren't any ways to get high Masquing without giving fate items to Lilac. Much as I love Fallen London I just can't afford it.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 mayexist Posts: 132
2/14/2014
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OPG wrote:
Could someone either update the wiki pages or post a list of the new (and old) options on An Encounter at the Feast? I'd like to see how much Masquing I need to raise so I can gut my wallet accordingly.
Masquing levels:
[spoiler] 3: -The Pirate Poet is Persuasive and Dangerous. -The Assassin is Shadowy and Dangerous. -The Costermonger is Watchful and Persuasive.
10: -The Ghostly Presence is Watchful and Shadowy. -The Pentecost Ape is Watchful, Dangerous and Bizarre. (Requires 1 x Malevolent Monkey) -The Diplomat is Watchful and Persuasive. -The Spy is Watchful and Shadowy.
40: -The Gentleman of Undisclosed Business is Shadowy, Dangerous, and Dreaded. (Favouring the Cheery Man) -The Stiff-Backed Young Lady is Watchful, Shadowy, and Respectable. (Favouring the Last Constable) -The Tragedian is Dangerous, Shadowy and Bizarre. -Lettice is Dangerous, Persuasive and Dreaded. And don't you forget it. (Requires Acquaintance: the Mercies 1)
80: -Sophia is Watchful, Persuasive, and Respectable. -Soap is Dangerous, Watchful, and Bizarre. -The Educated Gentleman is Watchful, Persuasive and Respectable. -The Irresistible Lady is Dangerous, Persuasive and Dreaded.
100: -The Revolutionary Firebrand, Reforged is Persuasive, Shadowy, and Dreadful. -The Secular Missionary, Renewed is Persuasive, Shadowy, and Repectable. -The Devil is Watchful, Shadowy and Dreaded. -The Quiet Deviless is Watchful, Shadowy and Bizarre (Requires Intimate of Devils 10) [/spoiler]
Do people favouring the Last Constable see different options at the 40 level? And the Revolutionary Firebrand, Reforged is apparently Dreadful instead of Dreaded.
Edit: Thanks, Fhoenix.
We're also witnessing a beautiful (r)evolution:

Edit 2: All fixed now.
Last edit, I swear: Stats in detail can be seen here.
edited by mayexist on 2/15/2014
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 Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539
2/14/2014
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mayexist wrote:
Do people favouring the Last Constable see different options at the 40 level? And the Revolutionary Firebrand, Reforged is apperently Dreadful instead of Dreaded.
Have you not met him? Dreadful fellow. Just dreadful. For God's sake don't let him get started on politics.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
2/17/2014
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babelfishwars wrote:
Bahaha. Sir Fred, we should REALLY stop reading each other's mind. Also. Write less well when you're going to post just before me saying what I'm saying. You make me look bad.
Pish posh - when I saw your post I very nearly abandoned mine, but figured I'd throw in my meagre lot anyhow. I must assure everyone that this long string of mod and admin posts is sheer coincidence!
lady ciel wrote:
It just feels to me that there is more emphasis being placed on social actions. That is a highly subjective feeling though and I could very well be wrong.
Notability has certainly relied on social actions, but less and less over time - with the reduced grind overall, the expansion of non-grind MW sources, and the limitations on Private Suppers and such. There's still balancing to do, no doubt (personally, I think that an Orphanage feels like a much less effective path than a Salon, though I haven't run the numbers - as you say, highly subjective!) And Halloween did involve a lot of social actions, though that also ties into MW and Notability and so will probably be different next time around. Otherwise, I can't think of much new content that's very social-action reliant - even the new Archaeology system is more single-player-y than, for instance, digging up the zee-islands and exchanging research notes.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Master Polarimini Posts: 310
2/17/2014
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Sorry, folks. As the Sage of Ontario once said, when people are really upset about a nerf, it generally means that there was a serious imbalance. We had to close that loophole. Well, you could just reach 25 with Scorn, so I wouldn't call it a "serious" imbalance, but I understand you wanted to increase the value of the other non fate-locked gifts that allow to reach 25-27 and cost much more than a failure on the wheel. It's actually not a big deal.
I still do not agree that capping everything not fate-locked (rare successes included) was the way to go, though. That's for me the real issue of this round of Feast.
-- Devices workshop opening soon...
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 Fhoenix Posts: 602
2/17/2014
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Same thing as Lady Ciel. I bought a good chunk of Fate this year to show support. Christmas content was excellent and encouraged me to spend. And I spent a lot on gifts during the last Feast too. My subjective feeling is that nerfing discourages me to spend money/time on the game. As I lose progress/value of existing items in my inventory/options in the game. I would be happy with new awesome Feast gifts to spend money on. But the new ones are mostly curiosities, you can't do anything with them besides cashing them in (I did buy the Stole for the cool factor). As for companions, I am still waiting for an option to marry one of the old ones, so I guess the new ones don't look that valuable too me? Anyway, I don't want to accuse anybody of anything, I have high respect for the creators of the game. Just expressing my opinion about the changes.
Have no problem with social actions (besides that they take more time to do, as picking people from a big least takes... well, time). edited by Fhoenix on 2/17/2014
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 Helen Demeter Posts: 100
2/15/2014
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Yay! Thank you, magnanimous hatkitty.
-- Helen Demeter, the Bohemian Beauty Has finally returned after an unexpected hiatus. Please mind the dust but do know that I'm now open to all social actions and invitations.
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 Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374
2/14/2014
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Spacemarine9 wrote:
She has her own opportunity card. It's Frequent frequency, so she should show up fairly soon. Fairly. If the RNG is fair.
For the very impatient, she is also available through the use of Favourable Circumstances on Write a Letter.
I note that there appears to be a plot afoot to send me, so far, about a half-ton of human teeth. Thank you all so very much.
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 Lumyire Posts: 167
2/16/2014
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This is really underwhelming. I was so excited about the feast from all the things I've heard, but now that they made most pets essentially fate locked, and for the devils, more expensive than their regular purchase price, it's pretty annoying. Very disappointing. edited by Lumyire on 2/16/2014
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lumyire
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/16/2014
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I feel like I'm the only person who thinks the Pirate Poet is the best thing ever and justifies this event.
Also the whole "pay to get 26+ Masquing" thing doesn't really bother me this time. It's much more transparent and in your face, but compare that to Sacksmas where unless you had foreknowledge you just paid a Master 50 fate to shovel your lawn with no clue of what would come of it, and the rewards were really only good as character flavor (and in my opinion the Feast companions are far more flavorful).
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 Lady Strange Posts: 95
2/15/2014
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It is the opposite for me. I have drawn Lilac twice. The RNG has yet to throw up the Festival card for me make the acquaintance of the Captivating Princess. There is nothing to do but to keep discarding and drawing cards.
[Edit] I have drawn Lilac again. The RNG is like a bus that you need to take. When you don't want the bus, you see scores of the bus number zooming by. When you need to take that bus for an appointment and make the effort to go to the bus stop half an hour early to catch it, you will end up waiting for hours before a bone-shaker specimen of a bus shambles by. edited by Lady Strange on 2/15/2014
-- My main, Lady Strange (https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lady%20Strange), in the process of stockpiling various items for various purposes, one task at a time. Regrettably not accepting challenges for the Tournament of Lilies.
My Alt, Lord George Mowbray (https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lord%20George%20Mowbray), younger son of an impoverished Marquess, proud owner of an Übergoat, ploddingly grinding for cider and other things.
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
I note that there appears to be a plot afoot to send me, so far, about a half-ton of human teeth. Thank you all so very much.
They're probably the closest thing to rats. And they're cheap. Seems like a good idea to me!
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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I would totally cherish a Tooth of Glory which has a tiny chance to punch you in the mouth and run off with your teeth.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Snowskeeper Posts: 575
2/12/2014
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an_ocelot wrote:
You know, silly me, I just realized my plan to propose to Mr Eaten probably means I have to ditch my Rubbery Companion.
Now I'm torn! I've been hanging on to it, and the whole Fate-locked thing, out of sheer stubbornness; it was a choice I regretted, but I keep hoping it will develop it something more my taste. And Mr Eaten will never respond. But maybe now's the time to give up the ghost and, err, chase a different ghost . . . ? In the words of the immortal Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name quality: "Why? In God's name, why? What can you possibly hope to gain? Stop now. Before it's too late."
EDIT 2: We made two jokes by accident. Fixed. edited by Snowskeeper on 2/12/2014 edited by Snowskeeper on 2/12/2014
-- S.F., a midnight midnighter and invisible eminence. Impossible to locate them, personally, but there are dead drops and agents.
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 ladymadsci Posts: 105
2/17/2014
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I'd just like to say that I'm kinda sore about the cap on Gifts of Scorn... 10 would have been nice, at least!
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2/17/2014
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lady ciel wrote:
I think part of my problem with social actions is that I am reasonably active on the forums so I'm getting feast gifts from random people and feel like I need to reciprocate. I know I don't have to but it seems wrong to me not to at least acknowledge other players actions. This feels like a misunderstanding of sorts to me - gifts are for *gifting*, not *trading*. One should not expect a 'return of investment' on giving a *gift* - I have sent various teeth'n stuff to more-or-(sometimes)-less-randomly selected people in my quite big and arbitrary contact list, just on a whim, because I felt like doing so. It's certainly a pleasant surprise if they get back on that, but I totally don't *expect* them to do so - because it's not like we had a contract or something. It's just me throwing some candy at passerbies when I feel like it - I don't demand they throw some back in return.
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 Schefflera Posts: 14
2/17/2014
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...Oh. Well. If I had known they were going to nerf Gifts of Scorn, I probably wouldn't have spent Nex on being an Exceptional Friend this month.
But this will ultimately save me money. I was tempted to seek out Fate-locked gift exchanges and try to get some of the new 100-Masquing companions, but somehow what seemed worthwhile when I could get the first 20 with Scorn just... doesn't anymore.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Schefflera (Main, Correspondent, Nemesis ambition) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Tallisibeth (Jedi alt, Bag a Legend ambition) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Zetonyma (Light Fingers ambition, came to the Neath to seek the Name but has been stymied)
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lady ciel wrote:
Don't get me wrong I spend as much as I can afford on Nex supporting FL. I have more than one character and each has exceptional friendship, has bought fate-locked stories and items. It just feels to me that there is more emphasis being placed on social actions. That is a highly subjective feeling though and I could very well be wrong.
I think our replies were general ones - at least mine was - addressing a point you raised, but mostly commenting on the balance in general, for others who might be having a momentary burst of ARRGH before returning to normal service. Definitely not intended to target you, which three long posts in a row might have seemed (merely coincidence of timing)!
I can't say FB are perfect, because if they were they'd have bribed me to their side with every fate locked thing in existence (they haven't, alas, am totally open to bribes, FB, just saying) - but I do think they do a pretty good job considering the tastes of people they have to balance to get enough regular (and paying) players to exist. I don't think people should feel they have to pay, but, PERSONALLY, I don't think they do. I went a good year or so playing where I only ever got fate from those videos. It's only as I've become more involved in the game (and with the forum and IRC too), that I've appreciated I can put a specific value against the entertainment given, and pay it. Sometimes. To me, FB do get the balance mostly (almost entirely?) right - and most people here would agree - which is why, even though loads of us gripe lots of the time, we stick around (I mean, why stay, otherwise?). We might moan and complain, but secretly we love them. But it's quite easy to moan about someone leaving the toilet seat up or not doing the washing up and forget to say we actually like er ... their tentacles. So while I try to suggest answers to your points as I like fellow players being happy as I'm happy and happy is good, I'm also trying to convey to FB 'I'll forgive the washing up because TENTACLES'.
Um.
I may need more coffee.
-- Mars, God of Fish; Leaning Tower of Fish
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I love Fallen London, I might complain sometimes but that is because I care
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Lumyire Posts: 167
2/17/2014
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
The social actions thing - the game has always been 'possible alone, easier together', since the very early days. I do plan to keep on adding social actions, because some folk really like them and we're always getting requests for more (player weddings are a good example).
This does mean social actions will always have advantages, because otherwise they'd feel pointless. But we have no plans to make it a primarily social game. As BFW says, we try to find a balance. But.. most players aren't in procession of tons of Cryptic clues or Appaling Secrets to blow on a couple points of Masquing. If you nerf the single player action, at least make the social actions more viable than 5 gifts per player before someone has to spend hundreds of actions to grind for the ingredients of a gift
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2/17/2014
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Fhoenix wrote:
Gifts of Scorn were just nerfed and now cap at 5 masquing. So everybody should probably stop grinding the wheel for gifts... and start grinding... appalling secrets? Oh and if you have 44 Gifts of Scorn like me right now... then you know how I feel.
Well that is bloody frustrating.
-- Locrian, the Genial Promethean Dorian, the Implacable Hedonist Aeolian, the Gentle Cypher Lydian, the Boisterous Brawler
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I really like the Pirate Poet and the Ghostly Presence. The difference between this and the Christmas fate locked content is that this depends on social actions and you can't get any of the 40+ petpanions without exchanging gifts. So any player who is not socially active or doesn't have the money is out of luck.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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I think it may be a good idea to mention the FL IRC at this time; you can organise gift-exchanges there quickly and easily in real time! The main channel itself should be sufficient, but if things get too crowded there's no reason why I can't set up a second channel solely for gift exchanges. You can also discuss the mechanics and occurrences at the Feast with other learned scholars, numberwizards and the faintly eccentric.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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2/14/2014
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Well I got the Feast of the Rose. It says "Some rare successes will increase your Masquing, but not above 20. By far the best way to increase Masquing is to receive rose-gifts from other players and trade them to the Lady in Lilac."
And the only gifts that increase Masquing beyond 25 are Fate ones. So... yeah. I am bummed right now.
LukeMcMillan, gifts new to this year are mostly curiosities. They don't do anything, you just exchange them for masquing at Lilac.
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2/12/2014
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. . . I am going to pretend I didn't see that.
La la la la laaaaaa.
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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2/9/2014
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This discussion makes me think that a Velocipede dating Salon scheme would be a most profitable venture during the Feast. Imagine the number of Romantic Notions and Touching Love Stories one can harvest from the POSI's getting to know each other better within the confines of the Salon.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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2/13/2014
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Lady Strange wrote:
I'm looking forward to it. This is my first Feast of the Rose and I'm curious as to what's in store.
Lots and lots and lots of scandal.
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 Andrea Serafini Posts: 169
2/18/2014
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I was thinking about.... what if refusing a gift would return to the sender the material used for the gift itself? I think it may be a little bit difficult with fate-gift, but it may solve the reciprocation problem.
Or, in alternative - what if you can "buy" the gift (You have now 1x Unsent Jar of Pickled liar tongues). Such gift can not be exchanged for masquing, but they will come back (and be sent again to another recipient) in case the person to which you sent the gift refuses.
-- Mizr Edlaine Saphburgh, the Prothean Neologist Per aspera, sic itur ad astra (i.e. I'd really love to patron new and seasoned Londoneers, or help them in any other way possible.
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lady ciel wrote:
I think part of my problem with social actions is that I am reasonably active on the forums so I'm getting feast gifts from random people and feel like I need to reciprocate. I know I don't have to but it seems wrong to me not to at least acknowledge other players actions.
Ah. You're far too nice. THERE's the problem. ;-)
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2/18/2014
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Inky Petrel wrote:
Whatever the intentions of the sender, a lot of people WILL feel obliged to return gifts (I certainly do) and even the non-fate items this feast aren't exactly cheap in multiples, even for a late-game player. Combine that with the masquing caps and it becomes frustrating pretty fast. Yes, you'd have to be planning for a lot of Fate-locked companions and/or be very pressed for time if you're going to actually benefit from those expensive non-Fate gifts. I only used mine to get to 15+ when I had a chance to return to the Duchess' Banquet. Which was convenient, but hardly necessary in the long run.
I believe that it's the Masters of the Bazaar who are behind this commercialisation of the Feast of the Rose. They know humans so well. They know that many will feel obligated to reciprocate. How many tiny silver kettles of pickled liars' tongues do we have hidden at the back of our cupboards? Do you love? Do you care? Prove it by spending! Second-hand gifts? Re-gifting? That will not do! If it doesn't cost you anything, how can it have value? 
I managed to avoid attracting too many gifts, and since I wasn't planning on spending Fate on the feast, I don't feel obligated to reciprocate the surprise Fate-gift I received. Well, at least not in Fate. Because if I did feel obligated, then I would in practice be letting other people decide for me how much Fate to spend on the feast. And that wouldn't be fair to me, I think, because my Fate reserves are very limited and I don't even own the 'obligatory' Ratwork Velocipede yet.
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2/18/2014
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Well, after looking forward to it for ages, I have to say I'm finding this Feast pretty disappointing. I have in the past (and will almost certainly in the future) been happy to spend money on the game, but not like this. Not only will buying a fate/nex item not directly get you a gift (you have to find a generous friend who's also lucky enough to be able to have some fate/nex and trust that they'll send something back) but then you have to take the gifts you just (indirectly) paid for and dump them if you want to get one of the companions from Lilac, who may or may not show up. I'm really not comfortable having other people spend fate/nex on me, EVEN if I send them the same thing back. It just doesn't sit right. I wish the option existed for me to spend fate on an NPC or something in order to get a gift.
It's all very grindy too. I don't recall it being this bad in previous years. The combination of grind and fate requirements mean I basically don't care any more. *shrug* I have some bats, I'll see what Lilac will give me for them, it sounds like not much. I probably won't bother trying to get anything else, even though I do really like the companions/items.
Also, I much prefer it when the game doesn't *require* me to spam dozens of people (or beg them to spam me) as well as spend piles of my own items in order to get a shiny thing. I know I've said it before, but one of the draws of FL for me has been that you can play happily on your own. This seems to be becoming less true over time.
Um, yeah, sorry. Complainy, I know. But I'm just feeling a bit frustrated/disappointed with this event. *sigh* edited by Inky Petrel on 2/18/2014
-- Re: Fallen London, please don't invite me to things or send me things, I'm only on occasionally, so you will waste your candle Thank you.
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2/18/2014
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I do somewhat agree, especially since the non-fate masquing collection went from manageable to resource leeching. Trading gifts has already eaten well over 100 echos of resources. That might be peanuts for endgame players, but its sizable share of my liquid assets.
Fate gift trading is especially troublesome, as I had to ask several strangers in the hopes some would reply. I then ended up with more gifts than I could repay since some people just sent them without getting a final ok. This left me in the awkward position of having to scrounge up some money to repay my outstanding debt since I wasn't sure if refusing the gift would refund the person or not. It was money I'd have spent on the game eventually anyways, but it felt really bad to leave someone that had trusted me in limbo for a few days.
In general I am something of a lone wolf player, preferring to do things on my own most of the time. In part this is because I don't really have any partners in crime that I constantly do interactions with and partially because the social actions feel somewhat...impersonal? Fishing for trades now, and confessions at halloween left me with a big list of people I'd dealt with once and otherwise didn't know.
I don't hate this event, mind you. Its still fun and interesting, and I've gotten to know a few people through negotiating trade deals. I suppose I mostly just got over excited from all the talk about previous years and how awesome it was.
-- Elene: Generally open for invitations. No cats or Photographers though. May or may not actually be Mr Wines.
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When I started doing Feast content, I was a bit lost. I came to the forums and read some tips. Unfortunately, that left me a bit discouraged; I did not want to spend fate/nex, and there didn't seem to be that much to do for free. (It's not that I'm against spending, it's just that I've spent a fair bit recently, and I like to keep the cost of freemium games moderate. I bought the theological husbandry and Flute street stories, so I have quite a pile of pets already. I also didn't want the hassle of organizing a fate exchange.)
But I decided that the thing to do was chill out and enjoy whatever was accessible. Using the carnival stories, a couple of gift exchanges, and the Feast of the Exceptional Rose card, I was able to get a 3 and 10 masquing pet. It really wasn't that hard; I didn't even flip all my cards. I chose the pirate poet and the ghost. Both came with delightful text - especially the pirate poet! And the stats for the ghost might not be end game content, but they're pretty impressive for a freebie. I assume the other 10-cost creatures are equally good, so if you are a budget midgame player, I think trying to get a 10-cost pet is a good idea.
I am psyched about the idea of interacting more with the pirate poet later on. The clay people content is really interesting to me.
Anyway, my point was that I am enjoying the Feast.
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2/19/2014
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Great, now I'm mentally rewriting "Blade Runner" with Clay Replicants.
I WATCHED GLIM-BEAMS GLITTER IN THE DARK NEAR THE TANNHAUSER GATE
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 Elene Posts: 184
2/20/2014
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
Lucky Cinnamon wrote:
When I exchanged the Masqueing for the Stiff-backed Young Lady, it mentioned she had Respectable as a stat. Her opposite on the Encounter at the Feast card mentions he has Dreaded, too. When I check her in my inventory, though, she doesn't actually posses it. Is a bug, or was there a change to her and the text didn't catch up? That was an error in the text: The Stiff-Backed Young Lady has better core stats than the Gentleman of Undisclosed Business, but doesn't give a point of Respectable (while he does give a point of Dreaded). We've corrected the text.
edited by Chris Gardiner on 2/20/2014
Thats unfortunate since her stat bonuses are all around worse than the scuttering squad we got for free on christmas. In fact, none of the companions below the 100 masquing ones top the three +8s of the squad.
-- Elene: Generally open for invitations. No cats or Photographers though. May or may not actually be Mr Wines.
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Note that the small print on Lilac's card notes that Masquing won't become Making Waves until the end of March. So, you've got four weeks to convert any remaining gifts and buy Pets, folks - don't worry too much!
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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I had, of course, already gone ahead and sold off my remaining Gifts of Scorn before drawing the surprise Lilac and seeing that.
EDIT- Using the infallible magic of complaining about it, I have summoned the Encounter card. So it is still in the deck, but the RNG laughs at its alleged Abundant Frequency. edited by Mordaine Barimen on 3/3/2014
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It also means that none of the Feast Companions give Respectable for less than 80 Masquing (Profoundly Educated Gentleman or Monster-Hunting Academic,) unlike Bizarre at 10 (Pentecost Ape) and Dreaded at 40 (Gentleman of Undisclosed Business.) The Last COnstable apparently has enemies amongst the devs as well, as she's the only Feast Companion at that Masquing level without any BRD.
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2/21/2014
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Owen Wulf wrote:
I certainly hope the devs throw us something special at the end of the season like they did with Halloween and Christmas. Perhaps a one time useable that allows you to get one of the new available spouses? One can dream... It sounds like an extremely bad idea for FBG to show players who spent Fate that they should have held on to their Fate and waited until the last minute, where they could've gotten Fate-locked content virtually for free. I've only seen that kind of generosity with in-game effort/currency.
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 Andrea Serafini Posts: 169
2/20/2014
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And now, for somethign completely different.
- I just realized i would really like to have my personal love story to write on the skin of the bazaar. It would be deliciously lovely, and probably masochistic.
- On the other hand, if i were a revolutionary, i would really like to MANIFACTURE my own love story to be written on the skin of the bazaar. I do not think i would like to be nearby.
-- Mizr Edlaine Saphburgh, the Prothean Neologist Per aspera, sic itur ad astra (i.e. I'd really love to patron new and seasoned Londoneers, or help them in any other way possible.
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2/20/2014
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The two masks are good for BDR, and the Tanned Mask also happens to be the best Shadowy hat in the game thus far. Best permanent hat, anyway.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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The poor dear loses out yet again...
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I AM AN ENCHANTED PRINCESS WILL NO ONE COME AND RESCUE ME FROM THIS WICKED SPELL
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Funny, 'cause from Sophia & Soap's MO, I would have pegged you for a Rick Deckard fan. Though, granted, one might not want to be him, 'cause he's a bit of an arse. A lot. A lot of an arse. edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 2/19/2014
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mayexist wrote:
Alexander Nonymous wrote:
What is the frequency on the card that allows you to trade in masquing for companions? I've only seen it once, at the very beginning of the feast, before I had acquired any masquing, and never since then. I've had Lilac show up a number of times and been unable to use her as I maxed the 25 level for non-fate masquing the first time she appeared, and I've seen the other feast opportunity card quite regularly. I'm beginning to get a little desperate for the opportunity to trade masquing in. Is this card extremely rare?
No, it's Abundant but the RNG can smell your desperation and will withhold it out of pure malice. As the game says, 'Relax on a chaise longue. Enjoy the perfumed smoke and music. Try a hookah. Appreciate the dancers. Isn't this what life's all about?'. Show the RNG that you're not at all affected by its fickle moods. The card will appear as soon as it realizes that it's not getting a reaction out of you.
You know, I'd actually believe that with this game.
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2/18/2014
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Mordenn wrote:
Apologies if this has been answered already and I missed it, but do the new non-equipment gifts have any use besides being traded in for masquing? I've recently been gifted a rather ominous explosion of colors and I'm not sure if I should trade it in or hold onto it. The explosion of neath-colours is as useful as ballet shoes on a clay man. Exchange it.
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2/19/2014
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
Don't worry - if we do more with Sophia and Soap in the game they'll likely be minor characters and we'll make sure you can enjoy it whether you have them as companions or not.
Great! I really like those two. It would be awesome to see more of them and find out more of their backstory. I'm especially curious what they need all that money for.
-- Elene: Generally open for invitations. No cats or Photographers though. May or may not actually be Mr Wines.
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 Andrea Serafini Posts: 169
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Flidget wrote:
Can I whinge about the soft cap on masquing at 25 when both the higher Nex-locked gifts and petpanions are in multiples of 10?
I get that removing the cap from the 5-nex gifts would allow too many shenanigans with the free start-up nex people receive but surely you can raise the soft cap to 30 without issues? All the higher-level companions are over 40 so you'd still have those remaining 10 points remain functionally Nex-locked. edited by Flidget on 2/19/2014
I definitely second the request.
Another possibility:
- Lower the cost of non-fate gifts to send to other players to about 5-7 echo / masquerading instead of 10 echoes / masquerading. Let such gift cap go as high as 20, as the cap for 5-fate gifts (in truth, there would be no problem to keep the same usual cap)
- You may decide to let 5-fate gift a cap of 30 instead of 20.
- Lower the cap of Masquerating coming from the cards of the feast to 15 (the maximum needed for non-fate event / companion, the acquaintance of the princess)
- Keep the Scorn-gist cap at 5
This do not alter the fate-cost of fate-locked companions.
Advantages:
There is an active advantage in receiving and sending gift as opposed to playing alone.
In particular, there is also an effective advantage in sending and receiving 5-fate gift, if their cap is 30 instead of 20. This makes them more useful but not necessary
On the other hand, solitary players would still need an alt for fate-locked gift. To grind 25 echoes on the alt account to also have 5 gift to send to the main is not really a burden (at least, in my opinion).
-- Mizr Edlaine Saphburgh, the Prothean Neologist Per aspera, sic itur ad astra (i.e. I'd really love to patron new and seasoned Londoneers, or help them in any other way possible.
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If I gift someone something, it's a gift. Not a debt, not an obligation.
Perhaps I should declare this when I send?
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2/18/2014
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I'm very curious about nerfing the use of scorn to trade for masquing. Is it that imbalanced a mechanism that the nerf had to be done in the middle of the event, and couldn't wait till the next year?
From a game design perspective I'm eager to hear what constitutes the imbalance, particularly if it countermands the game design objectives of the Feast.
-- Old guard paramount presence.
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2/18/2014
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Mordaine Barimen wrote:
The Pirate Poet (shouldn't that be Poetess?) didn't interest me until I looked closer and realized that it was a Clay Woman. that's a situation far more interesting than just some scoundrel who learned to rhyme "Arrr!"s. Assuming that Lilac appears at some point, she's on my list for acquisition. (You have to redraw for each new companion, though, correct?) Come on, she wrote herself free of Polythreme! That alone is pretty wizard.
To answer your question though, yes you have to draw the Encounter card once per Companion.
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The Pirate Poet kind of underwhelms me. My impression from the Sunless Sea retrospective was that she was powerful, and not just a +2 +2 pet. But I see the wisdom of making her readily available as advertisement (or something), and then she can't be too powerful. But it would've been nice if she'd at least been on par with the Masquing 10 companions. And/or even had a point of Dreaded and required Masquing 20 or 25. That would've been quite appropriate I think. Now I can't help but think of her as less.
"Oh, she's reciting poetry again. How precious."
Or should her +2 +2 be interpreted as the amount of aid she's willing to lend to the player, and not the limit of her abilities? DISOBEDIENT, right? And the ease with which she can be had as a companion (Masquing 3) is a sign of her unnoticed love (or unhealthy attraction) for the player? I think I'm going to have to go with that interpretation, because there is no way my little Pirate Poet can be this cute and harmless.
EDIT: Fixed the link. edited by Gillsing on 2/21/2014
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If the Feast is too much on your collection of Clues, you could always become an antisocial hermit like me.
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
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2/18/2014
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Has anybody echoed the text from the Well Song and the Mouthless Amber mask? I'd like to read them if possible.
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2/17/2014
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Ignore this, I'm an idiot. edited by OPG on 2/17/2014
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2/17/2014
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I don't mind the scorn nerfing myself, it's the fate-locking companions above 20 masquing I find annoying. Last year I recall being able to personally grind up to the 40 masquing companions sans fate. I understand FailBetter has to make money, just have found last years companions useful in various random ways and hate to miss out on this round.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vann~William~Robert~Lee http://www.facebook.com/AshGaidin
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 babelfishwars Administrator Posts: 1152
2/18/2014
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Lady Red wrote:
Personally, I would prefer to spend 50/100 Nex upfront and then get to woo a companion through a series of storylets and opp cards, winning them in the end... That would be COOL.
-- Mars, God of Fish; Leaning Tower of Fish
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 Elene Posts: 184
2/18/2014
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Playersideblog wrote:
I think some of the dissatisfaction from folk has to do with the social nature of the Feast...and I don't think that's anything which is bound to change. As such, I'm rather okay with it. Some folks like the social stuff.
When I think of a social action though, I think of going on a long intertwining adventure with the person and getting to know them, rather than a one time trade deal. For a social action its not all that social.
-- Elene: Generally open for invitations. No cats or Photographers though. May or may not actually be Mr Wines.
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 Arthur_Pendlebrook Posts: 53
2/13/2014
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Mordenn wrote:
Lady Strange wrote:
I'm looking forward to it. This is my first Feast of the Rose and I'm curious as to what's in store.
Lots and lots and lots of scandal. The tomb colonies will certainly be overflowing come the Feast of the Rose! Still this is my first Feast myself and I have to say, I cannot wait to see what will happen!
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 "Many" Chin Posts: 383
2/13/2014
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exactly what time does the feast start? 6AM at GMT:+0 ???
-- "My little China girl/You shouldn't mess with me/I'll ruin everything you are/I'll give you television/I'll give you eyes of blue/I'll give you man who wants to rule the world" - The Goblin King.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
2/13/2014
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Probably around 9-10AM GMT+0, possibly a little later.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/12/2014
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On an unrelated note, I'm super-hyped for the Feast of the Exceptional Rose.
Last year's Feast was my first official Fallen London Event Extravaganza and single-handedly solidified my obsession with this particular batch of internet werds. Plus, the Quiet Deviless and Presbyterate Diplomat are pretty wizard. edited by OPG on 2/12/2014
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 Lady Strange Posts: 95
2/12/2014
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I'm looking forward to it. This is my first Feast of the Rose and I'm curious as to what's in store.
-- My main, Lady Strange (https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lady%20Strange), in the process of stockpiling various items for various purposes, one task at a time. Regrettably not accepting challenges for the Tournament of Lilies.
My Alt, Lord George Mowbray (https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lord%20George%20Mowbray), younger son of an impoverished Marquess, proud owner of an Übergoat, ploddingly grinding for cider and other things.
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 Mordenn Posts: 39
2/11/2014
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"Don't become part of the stories."
I can't help but think that this recent outbreak of marriages and weddings may not end well.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mordenn
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 babelfishwars Administrator Posts: 1152
2/11/2014
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John Vazquez wrote:
babelfishwars wrote:
John Vazquez wrote:
Interesting profile, Babelfishwars. But I can see you already have an spouse. My intended one is still single  Ah. I can kill him. I mean remove him. It's a relationship of convenience. Will wait and see what the options are for the feast, then send him to the drownies if necessary.
Is that a proposal? 
Never. I'll await a line of admirers and see who seems most worthy (most profitable for me).
I'm such a romantic.
-- Mars, God of Fish; Leaning Tower of Fish
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 Suitov Posts: 89
2/5/2014
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Oh happy day! I'm sure I can find someone amenable to my brand new, ah, outlook on life.
-- Hello, savoury persons. Shall we become acquainted?
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 Suitov Posts: 89
2/6/2014
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Anyone want to bet how many proposals the devs will be flooded with, the second the option becomes available? Poor things.
-- Hello, savoury persons. Shall we become acquainted?
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 Cocytus Posts: 187
2/3/2014
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There was an email tellin' us it begins on the 14th. Not sure how long it goes on for, though!
-- Cocytus, the Avuncular Wordsmith, a river outside a box. Stock Titus, a rapturous individual ahead of its time. (Dormant)
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 OPG Posts: 387
2/14/2014
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Howard John Abrahall wrote:
I've forgotten how you start increasing Masquing? Need to get it to 25, before I engage in fate spending. The un-fate gifts, mostly. Also various options at the Pleasure-Garden, usually rare successes.
-- overpoweredginger, an irresistible, magnificent, midnight and sagacious gentleman.
A Fallen London Roleplay Community exists. Contrary to popular belief, Richard Nixon is not involved.
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 Corran Posts: 401
2/14/2014
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So many petpanions still to acquire...
Edit: My thanks to Colin Sapherson, Lord President of the Council for trading a Well-Song with me! edited by Corran on 2/14/2014
-- My Fallen London profile
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 A B Nile Posts: 414
2/14/2014
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Could someone please confirm: do you receive an amount equivalent to the Fate cost of an item if you surrender it for Masquing? So a 50 Fate gift earns 50 Masquing, and so on?
-- My profile: A B Nile
My alt: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate (seeking Acquaintances and accepting all social actions)
Item conversion table - finally complete with all rare successes!
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 Fhoenix Posts: 602
2/14/2014
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It's mostly like this. Heart-Cuts cost 5 fate but only give 3 Masquing. I think, starting from 10 fate gifts give the amount equal to their cost in fate.
-- My Character
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 "Many" Chin Posts: 383
2/13/2014
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thanks. that's somewhat convenient for me. it'll be late afternoon in my timezone. though i have handle some chores in that time period too.
-- "My little China girl/You shouldn't mess with me/I'll ruin everything you are/I'll give you television/I'll give you eyes of blue/I'll give you man who wants to rule the world" - The Goblin King.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
2/14/2014
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Unfortunately, the Well Song does not appear to be an equippable item I can sing at people to terrorize them :[
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Sigr Posts: 21
2/14/2014
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I mostly missed the Feast benefits last year, so I am hopeful for this year. An unattached brilliant minded lady should be able to find an eligible suitor
-- an inescapable, sagacious, midnight and sinister lady
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 Helen Demeter Posts: 100
2/14/2014
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I wish there were easier ways to grind for Romantic Notions. But I'm loving the fact I can't get anymore scandal when my main character does a brazen dance since her scandal is too high in the first place.
-- Helen Demeter, the Bohemian Beauty Has finally returned after an unexpected hiatus. Please mind the dust but do know that I'm now open to all social actions and invitations.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
2/14/2014
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There is an oppcard that can increase Masquing as well (besides Lilac) which contains a bunch of different options based on Airs of London. However... those cap at 20 as well. Hopefully there's /some/ way to increase Masquing over 26 without spending Fate...
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Fhoenix Posts: 602
2/14/2014
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Saharan wrote:
That's unfortunate. At least last year, there was a slim chance of being about to get the 30-40 Masquing pets without being able to spend Fate. I got all the way to 100 with that last year... which is probably why it is capped now. But yeah, you could not buy out all the pets with that (it took me ten days to get to 100), but if there was somebody you liked, you could actively work on getting them. edited by Fhoenix on 2/14/2014
-- My Character
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
2/14/2014
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The card kept showing up for the entirety of last year if you had any Masquing at all; it only disappeared a few days back so the new bits could be properly bolted on without anyone stumbling into unfinished content.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Corran Posts: 401
2/14/2014
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
One thing I'm wondering - if one retains Masquing at the end of the Feast, does the card to spend it keep appearing? Or is it gone until next year? I ask because I'd quite like to get one of the new Companions for Esther, but she's not at the level of meeting the base requirements yet.
The card does keep appearing.
I've been getting An Encounter at the Feast for the entire year. Good thing that I consider the card art the best one in all of Fallen London.
Edit: sniped by a Marine! edited by Corran on 2/14/2014
-- My Fallen London profile
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 Fhoenix Posts: 602
2/14/2014
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Secular Missionary on the other hand is Repectable) It's almost like Respectable, but not quite. There is something phony about her)
-- My Character
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 Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539
2/14/2014
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I'm favouring the Last Constable, but seeing the same options. Only for me, of course, those two 40 level options are locked. I guess favouring the constable just doesn't pay. That was a bug - you should be able to choose whichever one you favoured. Now fixed!
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 "Many" Chin Posts: 383
2/16/2014
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^ sent.
and i'm about to name my Ghostly Presence ,"Patrick Swayze". does that make me a bad person? he was such a beautiful man.
-- "My little China girl/You shouldn't mess with me/I'll ruin everything you are/I'll give you television/I'll give you eyes of blue/I'll give you man who wants to rule the world" - The Goblin King.
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 ruen Posts: 47
2/17/2014
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Schefflera wrote:
...Oh. Well. If I had known they were going to nerf Gifts of Scorn, I probably wouldn't have spent Nex on being an Exceptional Friend this month.
But this will ultimately save me money. I was tempted to seek out Fate-locked gift exchanges and try to get some of the new 100-Masquing companions, but somehow what seemed worthwhile when I could get the first 20 with Scorn just... doesn't anymore.
Exactly how I feel. I absolutely understand changing something if it isn't working in terms of gameplay or even profit, but--maybe do it with some advance warning, or do it next year, or make the change a little less drastic.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ruen
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
2/17/2014
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I think part of my problem with social actions is that I am reasonably active on the forums so I'm getting feast gifts from random people and feel like I need to reciprocate. I know I don't have to but it seems wrong to me not to at least acknowledge other players actions.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 Elene Posts: 184
2/14/2014
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Thats a bit of a pity. Some of these give a lot of BDR.
-- Elene: Generally open for invitations. No cats or Photographers though. May or may not actually be Mr Wines.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
2/14/2014
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I guess Failbetter wanted to give people pure Masquing options rather than forcing the recipient to choose between keeping a nice item or gaining Masquing.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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 DrBobTudor Posts: 3
2/15/2014
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Based on what folks have been trying at the Perfumed Pleasure Garden what is the best way to grind either Masquing or Gifts? I've found the Wheel of Fortune to be profitable. On a regular success it gives 10 Romantic Notions and an increase in Persuasive. On a rare success I got +1 to Masquing, 1 Memory of Light and 1 Antique Mystery. On a failure I received a Gift of Scorn (which can be converted to +1 Masquing via Lilac) and a small decrease in Persuasive. There doesn't seem to be much of a downside with the Wheel of Fortune. Are any of the other options better than this one?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/DrBobTudor
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 merusdraconis Posts: 52
2/15/2014
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Am I right in thinking that there's no storylines associated with the Feast, that it's basically either grinding repetitive storylines or social actions in order to get items of only minor interest? I've skipped the last two years of the Feast due to being inactive, and this year I'm a little more active but extraordinarily underwhelmed, particularly considering the event is supposed to be thematically one of the most important Fallen London holidays.
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 æsc Posts: 73
2/15/2014
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It doesn't seem as good this year, to be honest, mostly from the serious dependance on social actions (my friends mostly stopped playing years ago, which makes me sad but what can you do). There used to be a rather fun storylet where you seduced random people and danced with strangers (all game text, not other players) and it was quite good fun. I'm trying to look at it as a chance to make new IG acquaintances, though.
-- Dr Cecily Morgan an inescapable, sagacious, irresistible and breathtaking lady. Devoted Scholar of the Correspondance, Author, and Excellent Dancer. No photographers please. Most pleasant socials, invitations and calling cards welcome. Happy to accept Guest of Honour invites to salons looking for Authors.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
2/15/2014
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A lot of the old storylet content now appears in the form of cards - often with better rewards.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 æsc Posts: 73
2/15/2014
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That's good to know! I'll have to take your word for it, as I haven't had any Feast cards turn up yet. If I never see that bloody urchin with the Deviless again, though...
-- Dr Cecily Morgan an inescapable, sagacious, irresistible and breathtaking lady. Devoted Scholar of the Correspondance, Author, and Excellent Dancer. No photographers please. Most pleasant socials, invitations and calling cards welcome. Happy to accept Guest of Honour invites to salons looking for Authors.
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2/15/2014
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I have heard of this Lilac but she has yet to pay me a visit. (It cannot be the RNG, for the RNG is just and fair in all ways and manners. Or so I have been told by those I trust.)
I might suspect that it's the slight fragrance of brimstone about my person. Were I still in possession of my soul, I might become angry at such a speculation but all I can manage is a vague discontent as I rearrange the chiropteran boxes in my lodgings back and forth in geometrically interesting ways. My desires are not grandiose--they have not been in some time, of course--but a new companion to stroll about with would be...acceptable. Shouldn't it be that everyone, even those of us whose desires are less passionate than some, have the opportunity to enjoy the Feast? Perhaps. I may ponder that question later--after tea. It is nearly time for tea.
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 "Many" Chin Posts: 383
2/16/2014
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not sure whether i could post this here but one of the fate-locked pets (it's a young fair-skinned nubile. heh.) can errmmm... evolve??? disgusting... but very collectible!
-- "My little China girl/You shouldn't mess with me/I'll ruin everything you are/I'll give you television/I'll give you eyes of blue/I'll give you man who wants to rule the world" - The Goblin King.
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 Chuck Posts: 41
2/16/2014
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I have been at the carnival for two days and have yet to see a single rare success.
Speaking of this d__nable grind, does anyone know of fast ways of getting Inklings of Identity? I need to return some chess pieces, and can't seem to find enough butter, as it were.
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2/16/2014
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You're probably better off not going for rare successes; they're not very common, and they won't get you any higher than 20 this year. Gifts of Scorn from the Wheel of Affection should show up 20-30% of the time on average, and can be traded for Masquing up to 26, so they're both more common and better than rare successes.
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 Arthur_Pendlebrook Posts: 53
2/16/2014
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Nope, the Pirate Poet is quite the character and her presence alone makes this event worthwhile. I wonder where the other clay women are...
-- Arthur Pendlebrook's Profile
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 Master Polarimini Posts: 310
2/16/2014
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Lumyire wrote:
This is really underwhelming. I was so excited about the feast from all the things I've heard, but now that they made most pets essentially fate locked, and for the devils, more expensive than their regular purchase price, it's pretty annoying. Very disappointing. edited by Lumyire on 2/16/2014 Yes I agree... at least last year it was incredibly hard but still possible to get at least one high-level masquing companion without Fate.
-- Devices workshop opening soon...
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 Maddyanne Posts: 67
2/16/2014
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Agreed. Trying to get masquing up high enough without getting sent to the Tomb Colonies last year was fun. I was looking forward to it.
-- Parthenia in Fallen London http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Parthenia
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