DukeLawliet
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1/6/2014
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Now that we are closing mysteries for good, and awarding the fate, would any of you like to discuss our answers? I will edit this post with possible answers as they are proposed, and we can argue and debate and have a jolly good time-If our dear Alexis so allows.
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Spacemarine9
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1/7/2014
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
We got all the meat raffles.
Aha! I've got it!
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Alexis Kennedy
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1/7/2014
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You should move to London, Gardiner. We got all the meat raffles.
Chris Gardiner wrote:
Guy Scrum wrote:
I was with you until the last sentence. Is this one of those cases where I need to be British to know what you're talking about? I don't think I've ever seen a meat raffle in the States...
I'm British and live in a village with some pretty esoteric customs* but I feel I should make clear that meat raffles are not normal. They are not, like, a thing we do. If you come to Britain and ask for directions to the nearest meat raffle, you will at best get funny looks and may end up in prison. You have been warned.
* Including competitive duck racing, Morris Dancers and an invisible rat on a string all colluding in what I would describe as a semi-legal extortion racket
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Chris Gardiner
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1/7/2014
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
You should move to London, Gardiner. We got all the meat raffles.
People who go to London don't come back. Neatly solving the mystery of where the meat for the raffles comes from.
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Lady Red
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1/7/2014
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Tut, tut, Alexis, I can't believe you've forgotten the first rule about Meat Club.
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Chris Gardiner
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1/7/2014
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Guy Scrum wrote:
I was with you until the last sentence. Is this one of those cases where I need to be British to know what you're talking about? I don't think I've ever seen a meat raffle in the States...
I'm British and live in a village with some pretty esoteric customs* but I feel I should make clear that meat raffles are not normal. They are not, like, a thing we do. If you come to Britain and ask for directions to the nearest meat raffle, you will at best get funny looks and may end up in prison. You have been warned.
* Including competitive duck racing, Morris Dancers and an invisible rat on a string all colluding in what I would describe as a semi-legal extortion racket
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Diptych
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1/7/2014
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Heh, yeah, kind of. And apparently here in Australia too, but I admit, being a vegetarian, I don't have a huge deal of first-hand knowledge of the matter - most of the raffles I've had a ticket in have been for Christmas hampers. And most of the Raffles I've been in have been... well, never mind.
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Saharan
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1/13/2014
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Andrea Serafini wrote:
Aximillio wrote:
And with Mr. Eaten gone, perhaps 10? Exactly what i was thinking (i eliminated Sacks, Eaten, Chimes, Mirrors). But the fact that eleven master are cited in the FOURTH city maked me doubtful. Mr. Eaten should have been eaten in the SECOND or THIRD city, not the fourth.
This makes me think that, perhaps, Eaten is not so Eaten. The simplest explanation most often is the correct one. [spoiler]Most likely, the shrinemaker added both Mirrors and Cups to the tiles.[/spoiler] After all, not everyone is as well-versed in secrets as player characters.
edited by Saharan on 1/13/2014
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Diptych
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The founder of a modern city was also the principal founder of the first modern zoological society. And he's explicitly named in the lore. And he shares his name with the archetypal gentleman-thief and cricketer. And there are loads of restaurants named after him. And a giant corpse flower, but not the largest and most famous giant corpse flower. But not the competition where you get a ticket and a chance at winning a hamper of meat or something - you know, the kind they run as a fundraiser for the church hall roof or whatever.
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Nathanael S. Wells
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1/7/2014
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Honestly, don't copy the Most Popular Answer for the Mysteries. I can say with some certainty that the one about the Clay Men is just plain wrong.
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Dawson
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1/8/2014
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Andrea Serafini wrote:
we know from christmas content that Mr.Sacks is not a master
This is misleading—we know that (probably) all of the Sackses for the past two years were lacremen (or some kind of eldritch fiend, in the case of Mr Candles). But I'm inclined to say that "Mr Sacks" is in fact a singular individual who has not been observed for over two years now. The original Mr Sacks was a warden of urchins; he had a notably "gravelly" voice and was possibly somewhat larger than the other Masters, though a comparison is difficult to draw. His movements were explicitly described as 'lumbering' and 'lurching', slow and weighty—unlike many of the others.
Whether or not he was a lacreman is unclear to me, though I don't think it likely. But it seems dubious that he was another master in disguise, given how far the old text went to accent his particular characteristics.
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Mr Chimes is as certainly a multitude as any player can claim without the answer being revealed by the devs.
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Though I can't confirm personally, I've heard it claimed that Mr Cups is Mr Mirrors or vice versa. Or both.
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There is a phrase, from sidebar text I believe, that makes reference to the saying "when the Bazaar was between the stars". This is likely the source of the popular answer.
edited by Dawson on 1/8/2014
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streetfelineblue
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1/14/2014
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I wrote a LiveJournal entry collating all I could find about the Mysteries tab: (SPOILER ALERT: spoilers about lots of Neathy mysteries, and a passing mention of the Enigma Ambition):
http://streetfelineblu.livejournal.com/6451.html
Corrections are welcome, especially about the last question ("Between the stars...") and the exact numbers of Masters and Lacre Nomen (the more I think about it, the more I feel the answer should be 10 for both).
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Saharan
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1/14/2014
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streetfelineblue wrote:
Corrections are welcome, especially about the last question ("Between the stars...") and the exact numbers of Masters and Lacre Nomen (the more I think about it, the more I feel the answer should be 10 for both). RE: Foxes. Trusting the Salty Fabulist at face-value is the action of a fool. He himself admits, on a different rare success, that [spoiler]'...everything I've ever told you was a lie. Except this. Mr Spices, Mr Iron, the rest, aren't the Masters of the Bazaar. They're its pets.' [/spoiler]
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Evariste S. Crumbledon
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1/7/2014
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I must admit that I had never heard of the gentleman before this week-end, where I went on a wild hunt for a certain map...
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Snowskeeper
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1/6/2014
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Inky Petrel wrote:
I'd be keen to see how opinions differ (or not) from the "popular" answers you get when you hit "see what someone else thinks". I'm pretty sure some of those are wrong.
Indeed. Clearly it was the Space Core who constructed the Clay men, of Portal 2 fame!
And to think that some people believe there to be so few Masters. We can assure you that there are, in fact, 9000.5 Masters. Mr Eaten, unfortunate soul that he is, counts only for a half these days.
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MidnightVoyager
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1/6/2014
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Guy Scrum wrote:
Based on the enigma content (or rather, the clues leading towards it), I've decided to improve my answer for "who brought the tiger to the labyrinth". I think it should be an individual, not a society. Any concurrence?
Well... Hypothetically, I did look up the nonexistent map. I found the meaning of Panopticism seemed to center around round things. One of the hints was Marco Polo. Marco Polo influenced cartography, leading to the creation of the Fra Mauro map. The Fra Mauro map was round... and had the odd feature of having North and South reversed. (Mirrored?)
Could the Fra Mauro map be the fictional map in question? It could make the answer "Marco Polo."
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Alexander Feld
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1/7/2014
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...I don't suppose anyone could clue me in to whatever you're all alluding to here? Cryptohistorical Zoology isn't my best subject.
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Guy Scrum
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1/7/2014
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PMs sent.
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