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Newfur
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1/3/2014
Suppose there aren't six impossible colors in the Neath just because each needs to go with one profession, and C(4, 2) = 6.
Suppose the names of the colors are twisted, folded, tortured meaning. "I drown and overwhelm." "Violating." "Perfectly clear and also deepest black." "Far away from the blue." "The departure of the universe."
Suppose each one connects to a dream.
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Chris Gardiner
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2/25/2014
Master Polarimini wrote:
Perhaps there are two sets of 6 neath colors?

Believe me, the last thing this game needs is another set of fictional colours for me to spell wrong.
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Diptych
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2/20/2014
Blame Newton for that - he had a thing about sevens, when sixes are a much more useful number for dividing up things like professions. Six is divisible by two and three! What's seven divisible by? Nothing! It's rubbish. ...sorry, got a bit distracted there. Anyhow, no doubt there are all manner of variations on the Neathy colours in between the ones named. My working hypothesis is that the spectrum we've seen so far looks a little like this:

Violant - Irrigo - Apocyanic - Pelegin - Viric - Cosmogone - Gant

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IHNIWTR
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3/1/2014
it literally came to me in a dream

and when I woke up I said "I gotta post this before I forget"

then I posted it, still half-asleep

mad dream prophecies


  • EDIT: that quote is from the game though
    edited by IHNIWTR on 3/1/2014

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    IHNIWTR
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    3/1/2014
    Master Polarimini wrote:
    I received as a gift for the Feast the Explosion of Neath-Colours, and there's an interesting sentence in its description... it says "a crest of sleepy, frondular viric". Because it is in the context of listing the various colours appearing in the fireworks (it mentions also the "searing violant", a "winking irrigo" and a "thirsty, fathomless gant", could it be that it's a colour that it was not mentioned up to now?



  • viric is a light that is linked with sleep

    "the light at the edge of sleep was mine"

    viric is the seventh color

    viric is the color of Mr. Eaten

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    Master Polarimini
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    2/18/2014
    I received as a gift for the Feast the Explosion of Neath-Colours, and there's an interesting sentence in its description... it says "a crest of sleepy, frondular viric". Because it is in the context of listing the various colours appearing in the fireworks (it mentions also the "searing violant", a "winking irrigo" and a "thirsty, fathomless gant", could it be that it's a colour that it was not mentioned up to now?

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    Snowskeeper
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    2/19/2014
    Chris Gardiner wrote:
    Master Polarimini wrote:
    could it be that it's a colour that it was not mentioned up to now?


    That's an interesting theory.



  • Confirmed: Viric is the colour of policemen making weird noises.

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    Misbiopy
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    1/5/2014
    Suppose there are seven impossible colours. Why don't we discuss the seventh?
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    George Maddux
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    1/4/2014
    I, for one, am going to need more detail to follow your thoughts.

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    Flipz
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    2/28/2014
    Vefessh wrote:
    It is? I had no idea!


    I have that reaction to a lot of stuff I see in Fallen London. Promptly followed by either "that's so cool!" or "that's...somewhat disturbing." Or both. :P

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    Valerien
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    3/1/2014
    On the connection between Eaten and Parabola
    [spoiler]
  • The Northbound Parliamentarian mentions that the Name was taken and hidden behind a black mirror. The Fingerkings are associated with mirrors of black glass.

  • A treasure from the Expeditions mentions that Parabola's inhabitants are the antithesis of the Judgments and that dreams thrive in the Neath where the Judgments cannot see. One of the Hallowmas Destinies mentions the honey-roads between dreams and Parabola, and Wines' and Spices' quarrel over them after "their colleague was cast down". Dreams were Candles' domain.

  • The storylet where the Fidgeting Writer dreams about the God-Eaters gives Touched by Fingerwork. It's implied elsewhere that they made a deal of sorts with the Fingerkings to become what they are.

  • Probably irrelevant: The Mirror-Marches, a Nightmare menace area, is an outlying area of Parabola. Mr Eaten has 999 Watchful.

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    Flipz
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    3/1/2014
    IHNIWTR wrote:
    it literally came to me in a dream

    and when I woke up I said "I gotta post this before I forget"

    then I posted it, still half-asleep

    mad dream prophecies


  • EDIT: that quote is from the game though
    edited by IHNIWTR on 3/1/2014


  • Oh my god, we had the same dream last night, didn't we? O_O


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    Pyrodinium
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    3/14/2014
    The new storylet about the Somnolent Hyena might shed some light about viric (or is it virric?). It seems to be associated with another place and the creature that carries it is associated with sleeping and nightmares. IHNIWTR, I think whoever was speaking in your dreams might be on to something.


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    Mordaine Barimen
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    1/7/2014
    Cosmogene is "the colour of remembered sunshine."

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    Saharan
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    1/7/2014
    Martial Canterel wrote:
    Does anybody know how apocyan is described?
    The Bazaar has this to say on the matter: "Apocyanic: the tint the moonish light gives the Unterzee wave-caps." Also, I'm uncertain whether or not the -ic is a part of the colour's actual name or not.

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    Playersideblog
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    2/19/2014
    "Frondular" is almost definitely an affectionate descriptor for your beloved.

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    Pyrodinium
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    2/28/2014
    Vefessh wrote:
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    My working hypothesis is that the spectrum we've seen so far looks a little like this:

    Violant - Irrigo - Apocyanic - Pelegin - Viric - Cosmogone - Gant


    Where does Incarnadine ("the colour of a fresh wound") fit in there?

    Unfortunately that is a Surface colour that is synonymous to crimson.


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    bitterhorn
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    3/7/2015
    The way I picture peligin in my head is pretty similar to how Stygian Blue looks if you can trick yr eyes/brain into perceiving it [see, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color#Chimerical_colors ]. I'm still kinda figuring out the rest, that's the only one that's like "duh, yeah, I see that color in my dreams for sure."

    Or, I mean... I know what viric looks like but I absolutely can't describe it at all.
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    Mogwok
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    3/7/2015
    bitterhorn wrote:
    The way I picture peligin in my head is pretty similar to how Stygian Blue looks if you can trick yr eyes/brain into perceiving it [see, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color#Chimerical_colors ]. I'm still kinda figuring out the rest, that's the only one that's like "duh, yeah, I see that color in my dreams for sure."

    Or, I mean... I know what viric looks like but I absolutely can't describe it at all.
    edited by bitterhorn on 3/7/2015



    I think these are two of the most important things when discussing the nature of the colors of the Neath. I never knew there was a name or actual way to describe "stygian" colors, but I think it fits almost perfectly. I think, for the most part, that's what they are intended to seem like. Descriptions of the Correspondance have always given me the impression that that is a part of what it is like to look upon them, except far more terrible. I think it may not be a stretch to say that most of these colors of the Neath might act similarly.

    Also, the way you "describe" viric is perfect. You know it, but there are not mortal words with which to describe it adequately. As if it were perpetually on the tip of your tongue, but in some ways a fleeting memory, a fleeting description that eludes you. Something not of this rightful world, who's even description does not belong here either.

    These are precisely the elements that we should be considering regarding the Colors, and many other things, within the Neath.
    edited by Mogwok on 3/7/2015
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    Rook Crofton
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    3/1/2014
    IHNIWTR wrote:

    viric is a light that is linked with sleep
    "the light at the edge of sleep was mine"
    viric is the seventh color
    viric is the color of Mr. Eaten


    Interesting! But might it be a sleepy colour because it is associated with the jungles of Parabola? Cosmogone is also a Parabolan colour... Mightn't Mr Eaten be more associated with the colour Gant (which appears when others are devoured)?

    Oh! But your idea makes me think:
    [spoiler] Parabola contains that which is unreal... and Mr. Eaten a) calls seekers through dreams, and b) is eaten (and therefore unreal?). Is there a connection between Mr. Eaten and Parabola? Might he have a deal with the things behind the mirrors, or is he a poacher? [/spoiler]

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    brenden208
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    12/22/2014
    Not sure how relevant this is, as it has been said before, but I was steaming (zteaming?) around Sunless Sea, and I went to the Avid Horizon (the end), and in its storylet description was the following: "Two vast winged shapes guard a gate of something like resin, smooth but uneven. It is deep gant - the colour that remains when all other colours have been eaten." What, exactly, is on the other side of the gate is not specified, but as is said, some fool may open it, and it is entirely possible that it may be opened from the other side.

    Edit: I just noticed something else in Sunless Sea that sheds light on this. In Venderbright there is a very old, and almost not-present, tomb colonist that gives you a quest to go find the seven impossible colours, so our spectrum does indeed look like this:
    Apocyan - Cosmogone - Gant - Irrigo - Peligin - Violant - Viric
    Whats more, this quest also gives a little description of each of the colours, and the description of Viric is as follows: "Behind your mirror, V names Viric, the colour of shallow sleep." Also, probably less helpful, the quest has little icons for each of the impossible colours, each icon with a quite possible colour, probably the closest comparable one that can be seen elsewhere. The colour shown for Viric is an almost perfect jade.

    IHNIWTR wrote:


  • viric is a light that is linked with sleep

    "the light at the edge of sleep was mine"

    viric is the seventh color

    viric is the color of Mr. Eaten


  • The fact that your description of Viric is spot on, and that it came to you in a dream is, frankly, quite startling. If you have any more dream prophecies, please share them.
    edited by brenden208 on 12/22/2014

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    Mogwok
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    3/7/2015
    I was interested in learning more of the colors of the Neath. A Zee Captain of my acquaintance had come across a tome with some information on these strange colors and passed them along, and now I pass it all along.

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    IHNIWTR
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    3/1/2014
    DROPPING SOME TRUTH BOMBS IN THIS THREAD #FACTS

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