Rupho Schartenhauer
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4/28/2012
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I'm Aligned with a Faction: The Great Game. The new option on the card "Learn the spy's arts" results in the following tidbit:
There's a slip of paper in the box. That d--nable Italian cipher. 'Five letters. Starts with M. The success of every covert endeavour.'
I've never been good at this kind of thing. Any ideas? It's probably not important but I can't get it out of my head...
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hwango
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3/6/2013
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'Eleven letters. Starts with "C". "Masters of the Bazaar".
Chiropteran?
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Curious Foreigner
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1/13/2015
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Except Inspector Morse was written almost a century later. Unless the Devils are somehow involved with the italians, I find it unlikely that is what is meant.
The writers probably were referencing it, but ingame it doesn't fit.
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A B Nile
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1/14/2015
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I also think "money" is likely the intended answer, given the Numismatrix connection.
What gives me pause, though, is the way that the clue is written suggests that the correct answer should be capable of being read thus:
"[answer] is the success of every covert endeavour", and not "[answer] is the successful outcome of every covert endeavour", or "[answer] is the result of a successful outcome in a covert endeavour"
where "money" doesn't make sense in the first example.
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MaskedGentleman
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1/15/2015
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A B Nile wrote:
I also think "money" is likely the intended answer, given the Numismatrix connection.
What gives me pause, though, is the way that the clue is written suggests that the correct answer should be capable of being read thus:
"[answer] is the success of every covert endeavor", and not "[answer] is the successful outcome of every covert endeavor", or "[answer] is the result of a successful outcome in a covert endeavor"
where "money" doesn't make sense in the first example.
I believe it is trying to say that without money your covert endeavor will not be a success. It takes money to pay off the butlers, case the house, buy the supplies, and that is before we get into bigger schemes. In games of nations and cities it requires a great deal of money to buy your spies, buy your influence, even the sheer logistics of such an operation will be expensive.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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1/14/2015
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How about "myths"? Because if a covert endeavour is successful, all that remains for people who were not directly involved is to make up stories about what might or might not have happened?
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A B Nile
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Yes. I like "murky" for that reason. Or "messy". Or "muddy".
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Diptych
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1/14/2015
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I have a sneaking suspicion that these clues are intended to return more than one valid answer.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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4/29/2012
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Hrmh. Sounds reasonable, but somehow not satisfying...... every covert endeavour?
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armadaos
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4/29/2012
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Wieland Burandt wrote:
There's a slip of paper in the box. That d--nable Italian cipher. 'Five letters. Starts with M. The success of every covery endeavour.'
I've never been good at this kind of thing. Any ideas? It's probably not important but I can't get it out of my head...
I'm glad someone asked.. I've been thinking about it myself (I too, am aligned with the Game), and I too came to travellerside's conclusion. Alas, I am unsatisfied by, it sort of makes sense, but, I can't help but expected something of seemingly more mystery or value to be hidden in this cipher.
At least when you compare it to the other cipher I've come across ( Six lettters. Starts with "A". "Bought with a city"), the answer to that I believe to be sort of an open secret in the fifth city, but an important one none-the-less.
Anyway, perhaps, there's simply more meaning in the answer, than I currently realize. Perhaps I do not fully understand the implication of this answer, or i'm just making a bigger deal of it than I should.. .
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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4/29/2012
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Passionario wrote:
The bolded title that appears when you choose that option offers another amusing answer.
Moths, yeah. And it does make sense, especially if you take into account Samuel Butler's definition of the Art of Covery: This is as important and interesting as Dis-covery. Surely the glory of finally getting rid of and burying a long and troublesome matter should be as great as that of making an important discovery. The trouble is that the coverer is like Samson who perished in the wreck of what he had destroyed; if he gets rid of a thing effectually he gets rid of himself too.
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I've long wondered if that refers to the Second City... Antony? Probably not.
The most popular solution is [spoiler]Albert, the Empress' Consort.[/spoiler]
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Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it.
Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely.
Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated.
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Patrick Reding
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6/9/2012
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Dawson wrote:
After additional research, I believe the 'damnable cipher' to be a reference to the Alberti Cipher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberti_cipher). I'm not sure of this, however; to the extent of my research, this is the most well-known and significant cipher of Italian origin that fits with the FL timeline.
I'm certain it's referring to an entirely different sort of "cypher". Quote Wikipedia:
"The first example of a crossword puzzle appeared on September 14, 1890, in the Italian magazine Il Secolo Illustrato della Domenica. It was designed by Giuseppe Airoldi and titled "Per passare il tempo" ("To pass the time"). Airoldi's puzzle was a four-by-four grid with no shaded squares; it included horizontal and vertical clues"
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Dawson
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6/9/2012
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Hm. That does make much more sense, thanks for clueing me in. I thought we were looking for the keyword for a traditional code cipher.
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Polycarp
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1/13/2015
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Um, did nobody really ever get this? Morse. Morse is a code. Inspector Morse's first name is Endeavour. Tsk...
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travellersside
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4/28/2012
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*cough* Since this is related to the Numismatrix, the answer is 'Money'.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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1/14/2015
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A B Nile wrote:
What gives me pause, though, is the way that the clue is written suggests that the correct answer should be capable of being read thus:
"[answer] is the success of every covert endeavour", and not "[answer] is the successful outcome of every covert endeavour", or "[answer] is the result of a successful outcome in a covert endeavour"
That has puzzled me, too. Actually, if you read it like this the answer cannot be a noun but should be an adjective or adverb.
How about "muted"? Because if a covert endeavour is successful nobody will know anyway...
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Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it.
Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely.
Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated.
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Asclepius Unbound
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1/14/2015
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Hmm, since we're bringing this back up I've been thinking about it...
- 'Might' comes to mind but doesn't fit.
- Either 'minor' or 'major' would work, though. Ish.
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Gillsing
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How about "maybe"? Maybe a covert endeavour was a success, or maybe it was not. Maybe someone found out about it but chose to not reveal that, so one can never be too certain that it was successfully concealed. Unless of course there's a time when the covert part of the endeavour no longer matters.
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Zeel
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1/16/2015
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hwango wrote:
'Eleven letters. Starts with "C". "Masters of the Bazaar".
Chiropteran?
I always thought it was
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Clathermont. Especially with relation to Mr Cups meeting Lilac every week, which was recently revealed in Ambition: Nemesis.
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Asclepius Unbound
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1/17/2015
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If you were being really sneaky with that 'Masters of the Bazaar' one...
[spoiler]...'Cups/Mirrors' would work.[/spoiler]
Edit: But I think 'chiropteran' is better and probably the intended answer.
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