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12/11/2013
See this delicious Twitter tease...


  • I want one, to augment my premises at the Bazaar. Now I can only wonder how much it will cost...I wonder if this will include an action that gives 5 or 6 scraps...

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    Chris Gardiner
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    12/11/2013
    Blackleaf wrote:
    But why whould we want to live in a [...] snail.

    It's like I don't even know you.





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    12/14/2013
    MidnightVoyager wrote:
    Paranoia is insanity, too!

    I too lament the "Notability 9/10" stuff, though. I have other things to grind for that aren't Persuasive, dangit! I don't want to send dinners with every single action forever.


    Fhoenix wrote:
    I simply want to have a clear sense of progress and freedom to play on my own terms. With Notability there is a ton of intermediate steps (Notability from Waves, Waves from Scheme, Scheme from connections. With no way to tell, how much of anything will be enough for an increase) and you don't gain anything permanent unless you cash out, so there is this pressure to log in and grind.
    There are of course a ton of options that increase Waves now. I love the idea of building your reputation from small things. But all those options are more or less useless. Because if you not on a Notability grind, you will simply lose your Waves in a week. And if you ARE on a notability grind, you won't be doing all that stuff mid-grind.


    I wholeheartedly agree. I am excited for all these news (currently I'm grinding Notability for the Reputation of Some Importance), but the Notability mechanic is a real peeve. That' s why I'm literally burning to complete it within december, that's been a real boon.

    See, if at least Notability didn't vanish once a week, one could relatively dismiss failures at the Amanuensis check knowing that they will be able to do them again sooner or later. But no; you have to grind blindly AND you have to succeed, or you get pushed back. Raising Making Waves as to get 100% isn't a thing either because it requires just too much actions to allow you progress at the higher levels. So basically you get all the worse sides of a long grind, a luck mechanic, AND a timed mechanic. Lame T.T

    Also, I hate the Amanuensis. On a story-based perspective, I mean. At endgame level the player character is basically a protagonist - a Sherlock Holmes, Captain Nemo, Allan Quatermain-level protagonist. He did wonders and is well able to confront all but the worst perils of the Neath. And STILL, if he wants recognition he has to actually STOP hunting beasts, plotting schemes, gaining tons of money and dealing wiht the very higher-ups of London to start partying mad, only to keep going back to that horrible Amanuensis LITERALLY BEGGING for a little note on his big book. Get a bad luck streak and you'll have the little man going "I know you beat Feducci in person in duel and you're in a first name term with all the Masters but mr. Irons. But seriously, you should have PARTIED HARDER. You're not OK in my book". WHY isn't there an option to strangle him there and then? smile

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    Aspeon
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    12/14/2013
    This is even less lodging-related, but I think it's a new change (at least I never noticed it before): The Fidgeting Writer actions have Try This Again. The Fidgeting Writer actions have Try This Again. This is cause for celebration.

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    Alexander Feld
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    12/13/2013
    ...How do the Masters give you a birthmark? Is the Bazaar a TARDIS? Or is it only metaphorically a birthmark, and it's really just Mr Iron punching you really hard with a signet ring?

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    12/14/2013
    The first step of the Fidgeting Writer story now gives Making Waves, and quite a lot of it. About 20 cp, I'd say.

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    MidnightVoyager
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    12/11/2013
    Blackleaf wrote:
    But why whould we want to live in a cellar. Or a snail.


    Why wouldn't we want to live in a snail?

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    12/13/2013
    OPG wrote:
    Certainly hard to copy or steal.


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    12/14/2013
    Gillsing wrote:
    MidnightVoyager wrote:
    And I lost a point of Connoisseur of Neathy Delights in Time the Healer.
    I, on the other hand, gained one. From 8 to 9. Which is entirely appropriate, I'm sure. So many decadent evenings with the Bohemians...


    Time the Healer, are you drunk?

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    12/14/2013
    I do agree that it'd make sense for Notability to be less ephemeral... The Amanuensis goes on and on about how Making Waves are ephemeral and fading but Notability is more solid and permanent, then if anything it falls faster than Making Waves. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

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    Master Polarimini
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    12/14/2013
    You can add me to those who are not too fond of the Making waves-Notability system... I really feel it blocks me to explore the Fallen London world.
    I explain: with all the other mechanisms, even the most grinding, I had always the freedom to stop for a while and look around if I wanted some variety. Now, with the weekly decrease of Notability, I will need ("be forced" is a strong word, but nonetheless...) to repeat the same actions over and over and over for weeks!

    Adding to the frustration is that only one card out of the zillionth of the deck allows an increase to Notability (that needs anyway a huge amount of MW -a quantity that itself decreases drastically every week- especially at high levels). The Schemes help only very partially to relieve the problem.

    I can understand the authors want to give the idea that you have to dedicate the maximum of your time to increase your reputation, but still as game mechanics is frustrating, and at the end it seems there are not your deeds that make you famous (or infamous) but just how many times you invite people for supper.
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    12/14/2013
    Wasn't it hinted at that the Notability mechanic might change? Perhaps it will be possible for a PoSI to spend 1-2 Professional Perks to gain one point of Notability, which would then cover for the point that goes to Time, the stealer, that week? That seems like a good solution to me, because even less active players get those perks at the same rate as everyone else. With a cost of a single Professional Perks (sic), Notability could be maintained indefinitely as long as the player logs in every week. With a cost of two perks the player could save up three perks, and then maintain Notability gains for the next four weeks as the incoming perks help pay for the cost.

    Well, it's an idea. Someone else probably already thought of it, and it was struck down and buried in one of the previous fallen cities.
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    MaskedGentleman
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    12/16/2013
    I think this looks similar to schemes like the Salon, so I imagine the others would similar options. The Monster Hunter could make a hunting lodge for example.

    On a related topic if the Correspondent does become a Speaker, I have an idea of what that might mean. My first thought was some type of lecturer, but what if they are so fluent in the Correspondence that they can actually speak it? Or even more intriguing, use it to communicate with the Judgements?

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    12/16/2013
    About the Duchess and the Second City:

    [spoiler]Well, the father of the Duchess was a heretic who (perhaps as a result of dabbling in the matters of Judgements and Masters) declared the Sun to be the only god. His daughter, the Duchess, changed her name from "Her Life is the Suns" to "Her Life is Amuns", so I'd reckon she was a bit of a restorer.

    So it makes sense for people to say "you know, probably for the best the Sun isn't around anymore. We went through enough funny business with it."[/spoiler]

    But who are "the heralds of night"? Can February boast of reviving a Second City tradition with her project?

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    12/17/2013
    Having a 5-6 card building that was Profession specific (or at least profession line specific) would be sad to me. I consider my character to be somewhat of a landbaron who would not rest until he owns every building in the Bazaar. To have some of them locked because I'm not a Glassman or an Author would sadden me greatly.

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    Fhoenix
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    12/14/2013
    I simply want to have a clear sense of progress and freedom to play on my own terms. With Notability there is a ton of intermediate steps (Notability from Waves, Waves from Scheme, Scheme from connections. With no way to tell, how much of anything will be enough for an increase) and you don't gain anything permanent unless you cash out, so there is this pressure to log in and grind.
    There are of course a ton of options that increase Waves now. I love the idea of building your reputation from small things. But all those options are more or less useless. Because if you not on a Notability grind, you will simply lose your Waves in a week. And if you ARE on a notability grind, you won't be doing all that stuff mid-grind.

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    Alexander Feld
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    12/14/2013
    Aspeon wrote:
    Good to know that there's still a point in grinding Searing Enigmas while SMEN is on hold.

    But yeah, it sounds like there'll be a cheaper way to get these come Christmas events, so we'll see what happens there.

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    12/12/2013
    Failbetter has just surpassed itself this holiday season. You guys are the best!

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    MaskedGentleman
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    12/12/2013
    Maybe we will be able to upgrade our current lodgings to these new ones. Turn that cottage in the marshes to the snail option perhaps. I only suggest this because there would be no need for two premise at the Bazaar options. Except for the joy of owning property of course! I just remember that failbetter has a policy of not adding more work than needed in order to keep Fallen London at a manageable level.

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    12/14/2013
    Gillsing wrote:
    Wasn't it hinted at that the Notability mechanic might change? Perhaps it will be possible for a PoSI to spend 1-2 Professional Perks to gain one point of Notability, which would then cover for the point that goes to Time, the stealer, that week? That seems like a good solution to me, because even less active players get those perks at the same rate as everyone else. With a cost of a single Professional Perks (sic), Notability could be maintained indefinitely as long as the player logs in every week. With a cost of two perks the player could save up three perks, and then maintain Notability gains for the next four weeks as the incoming perks help pay for the cost.

    Well, it's an idea. Someone else probably already thought of it, and it was struck down and buried in one of the previous fallen cities.


    Now that would be good. Or maybe Notability might just not decrease every week. When you get it, somewhere in the description, it says "A more permanent form of fame", doesn't it? OK to lose it in exchange for an important position or elite Lodgings or some kind of extraordinary feat. But decreasing weekly? WHY?

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    Sara Hysaro
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    12/14/2013
    I wonder how much Substantial actually is, and how many Free Evenings we'll get in a week (and also whether it sets or stacks; probably the former). It'd be pretty nice if we could set up groups of people working together to achieve the high levels of Notability we'll need. We could all take turns, and since it's limited per week everyone could work on getting their Notability up after making their Weekly sacrifice to the chosen player. Might not be worth the effort of organizing, but it's an idea.
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    Diptych
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    12/14/2013
    My head is spinning with all the new possibilities and the grinds they seem to demand! Get Watchful to 200, then somehow push Notability up a few levels, then... Impossible Theorem? Then Notability up to a huge number??? I'm sure that will be actually possible once the new Schemes are in place, but as it stands... well, I'll push for Watchful 200, and then as far as I can figure out, the next step is to lift up the town hall and jog to the moon with it on my back.

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    12/14/2013
    MidnightVoyager wrote:
    And I lost a point of Connoisseur of Neathy Delights in Time the Healer.


    Me too. Given that I did a fate-locked storyline specifically to max that out at nine, I'll admit I raised my eyebrows at that a bit.

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    varinn
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    12/17/2013
    I imagine that at least there'll be a couple options unlinked to the Professions, like Notary, Doctor, etc.

    If anything, I think it'd be interesting if the ones not tied to a Profession were more impressive and 'valuable', in a mundane sense, since the professions as of tier 4 are morphing from actual jobs into....obsessions.

    So stuff like owning an entire slum, or a hotel of your own, without Inherent Weirdness, would be an interesting tradeoff.


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    Spacemarine9
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    12/18/2013
    It always has; I think you're confusing that with the option on the Sleepless Tower which requires Scholar.

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    Nathanael S. Wells
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    12/16/2013
    I have, indeed, been until now hesitant to pronounce her name, for the very reasons you laid out.

    However:

    [spoiler]From what I understand, it is very unclear whether or not Ankhesenamun was ever married to her father. The Duchess, however, when looking back to the fateful events about her husband, refers to him as her "betrothed" - which solves the complication of the wedding date.

    All in all, it is clear that the Duchess is a daughter of Akhenaten (much like it is clear that the Gracious Widow is a daughter of Möngke Khan); it seemed to me to be natural for her to be the one with the closest tie to a tragic love story.[/spoiler]

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    12/16/2013
    my guess is that

    [spoiler] in order to make Eaten pliable, or perhaps simply "available", for the God-Eaters to consume, he had to be drowned in a well. The detail we get from Mutton Island about the offerings of sour beer at the well, and the knowledge that sour beer was a second city staple, was what led me to believe that Eaten was a prominent figure in the second city - I'd guess it was a favorite drink of its.

    I also think Eaten's drowning did not take place immediately after the second city was brought to the neath. there would have been a time where Eaten and Veils worked side-by-side; one cannot betray before one has first garnared a measure of trust.[/spoiler]

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    varinn
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    12/16/2013
    I would hazard that that is almost definitely the Second City, considering the bit about a disaster almost caused by a King? Which would match with the idea that the King/Pharaoh of the second city tried something Extremely Ill-Advised on the Bazaar.

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    12/16/2013
    It seems in the Tomb Colonists connection card, you can now trade a collection fo curiosities in for five puzzling maps.
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    12/14/2013
    Counting seconds until the nerf.

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    12/14/2013
    Well, I now own the keys to not one but two Rooftop Shacks. Because I wanted to see if I could.

    I think just the one premise at the Bazaar will be fine for now, though.
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    varinn
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    12/16/2013
    If binding the "heralds of night" was part of averting whatever crisis the King was trying to initiate, it's unlikely. He was almost definitely a Sun cultist, right?

    I could almost see it being a term for the Masters?

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    12/18/2013
    Not new content but a change in old. In the Heron Tower, the second option now requires a Recurring Dream: Death by Water quality of 1 instead of Scholar of the Correspondence.


  • EDIT: Got two lodgings mixed up... hahahaha*hides in the corner*hahapleasedontlookatme
    edited by Zephyr15 on 12/19/2013
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    serguma
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    12/14/2013
    The tower of sparrows new action is quite good, and better still... repeatable!
    I just used it three times in a row (went from 12 to 22 making waves), and I even gained some pennies one time (the others were clear losses, so I have less echos now, but well...).

    I think it is a good use of a night in town for those who like me have been authors for a bit smile.

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    12/14/2013
    Intresting, Strong-backed Labour is now 1250 pennies, rather than Intriguing Gossip and Compromising Documents.

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    12/15/2013
    You can now gain Trembling Amber from the, "A Rubbery Man lopes purposefully in your wake," card. One hundred Warm Amber for an ammount of Trembling Amber I do not know. They also seem to have changed the checks to murder the Rubbery Man. The shadowy half got removed and the dangerous half is more difficult.
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    12/15/2013
    oh, if you want to know what the Steamer fate option gets you, I've echoed it in my profile

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    12/15/2013
    Maybe only we Glassman can see it. Hold on.


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    Inky Petrel
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    12/14/2013
    Agreeing with everyone saying that the notability grind is, well, a grind. It's incredibly un-fun and frustrating (and it will be even more so when the action cap goes down again). I think with tweaking it could be a good thing, and I like the idea of making waves/notability as a quality that a character can have, but as it stands it's not nice.
    edited by Inky Petrel on 12/14/2013

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    12/14/2013
    I will say right now, if anyone steals my making waves they will be quickly and enthusiastically snubbed. (I certainly won't be taking MW from anyone else.) I really hate that sort of nastiness.

    Edit: After reading the description it does seem less vicious than I had thought. More of a trade than theft. But it's still not something that would be polite to spring on someone without asking first.
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    MidnightVoyager
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    12/14/2013
    Inky Petrel wrote:
    Oh, well that would be ok then! smile "really incredibly hard" I can cope with, there was a lack of goals for higher level players anyway. I would just be sad if I couldn't collect all the things. *curls up around hoard*


    man, I know that feeling. But yeah, the Theorum is something you can manufacture, and the Location is something you can get through the Relickers. I'm sure there'll probably be another way to get the Master's Blood and maybe even the Location, too.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    12/14/2013
    The wiki says you don't need a ship, but instead a POSI Specialization.

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    12/14/2013
    Gillsing wrote:
    Aximillio wrote:
    A suite at the bethlehem costs bizarre 7, either of the advanced posi-ships, an impossible theorem, and notability 9
    So if I want that one, it would make more sense to first get the relatively cheap Zee-Clipper and pay for the suite with that one, and then build the much more expensive Zubmarine? Or isn't the Zee-Clipper advanced enough?


    I believe Aximillio meant "ship" not as in "a sea ship" but more like "-ship" as a suffix. Like in "lordship".

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    Sara Hysaro
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    12/14/2013
    There's some pretty strong types of glass out there.

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    Fhoenix
    Fhoenix
    Posts: 602

    12/14/2013
    If you are worried about your night safety and been woken up, Royal Beth is not the place for you, obviously.

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    streetfelineblue
    streetfelineblue
    Posts: 1459

    12/12/2013
    Well, new Schemes were announced, so new Lodgings could be not too far out there. But they could also be simply new locations, a bit like the Gamekeeper's Cottage. I wouldn't know what to choose *_*

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    MidnightVoyager
    MidnightVoyager
    Posts: 858

    12/12/2013
    Well well, looks like there's two more images in the ol' ow.ly!

    http://ow.ly/i/40k9v
    http://ow.ly/i/40k7u

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    Playersideblog
    Playersideblog
    Posts: 397

    12/13/2013
    Aaaaaaand look at that lodging! Got it from this tweet, so it looks like there's more lodgings than expected! Interestingly, seems like a straight upgrade from the RBH Room.

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    Catherine Raymond
    Catherine Raymond
    Posts: 2518

    12/12/2013
    Inky Petrel wrote:
    EEEeee! *excited flailing* MORE KEYS! Big Grin So excited. I love collecting lodgings keys! (...yes, I know I'm odd, shush.)


    I'm so with you, Inky. I have the whole set of Lodgings now, and I want it to stay that way!

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    Blackleaf
    Blackleaf
    Posts: 552

    12/11/2013
    I like the spire and the temple. Im more for size though than lenght. Where's my manor lodging? :O

    I will stab you in knife and candle if you make an innuendo out of that.

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