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Seeking Mr Eaten's Name

Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 11/25/2013	This is a thread for discussion of strategy, narrative and co-operation in the Seeking Mr Eaten's Name storyline. Note that this is an optional and deliberately absurdly challenging element of the game, and no customer support is provided. Take the in-game warnings seriously.
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/9/2013	I just want to say that even though I wasn't satisfied with the Winking Island content, and did spend Fate there, I definitely wasn't angry to the point of demanding a refund or threatening legal action or wanting the whole SMEN storyline closed or hastily ended. I have enjoyed it on the whole and would like it to continue, to whatever conclusion you initially had planned, Alexis. However - isn't a third possibility (aside from closing SMEN, or keeping it open and possibly suffering more and more complaints) to continue the storyline but make it perhaps very slightly less punishing? I'm honestly not trying to suggest this as a roundabout way of calling for the storyline to be made easier for my own comfort, but rather as a legitimate compromise between your capital-A Artistic Vision and capital-B Business. I mean, speaking as a player here, it's always been the lore behind Mr. Eaten that's made the storyline the most interesting to me. I really REALLY want to find out the whole background with what happened to him, and maybe help him achieve whatever Reckoning won't be indefinitely postponed. I would absolutely hate to see it prematurely cut short with some anticlimactic and probably necessarily ambiguous hasty ending.
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	EDIT: Please stop sending me PMs, people, I have all the helpfully intended opinions I need :-) oh lawks I should have known this would happen. Look, I'm locking thread again to minimise drama, because I don't want the impression to be a long tail of people going OH NO PLEASE ALEXIS and then me sweeping queenily back in and going WELL IF YOU ABSOLUTELY INSIST Thank you for your various enthusiasms. In response to a couple of suggestions, making it less punishing and incorporating it into primary content is possible, but it would be a substantial investment either of my own out of hours time, or of company time (and it won't cover its own costs). I'm going to think it through carefully. Now go and talk about Christmas instead. edited by Alexis on 12/9/2013
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IHNIWTR Posts: 346 12/8/2013	Don't really know why, but with everyone writing seasonal FL songs, and with the sidebar showing me the songs of the L.B. first thing when I logged in, I felt it only appropriate to write The Song of the Seekers. There's a tune and everything, but until I manage to find a way to upload and share it, just now that it's meant to be slow and mournful - think eastern european dirge, or the kind of tune zailors sing when they're well down on their cups. 'round in a city, a hunger was broiling Lights were a-flutter, candles aflame, Out through my door, I stumbled, I tumbled, Off to the darkness, to find out The Name Shunned and reviled, Cast out and broken, Spat on, despised, But still I maintain For I never meant to go out a-Seeking, Eaten and eating, the same old refrain A Chain and a Stain, a Cat in my cradle, favours called out, more favours still owed, my life is devoured, my mind is in shambles, but this a-reckoning will not be postponed Seeing and dreaming, In my mouth ashes, The Surface, it calls me, But here I remain, For I've never meant to go out a-Seeking, Seven and Seven, again and again On now to the NORTH, to treason and hatred, On now to fate ever-far worse than hell, On now to find that which was forgotten, Mayhaps I'll drown all my woes in a Well A Torment is marked, The last wick is burning This journey's end No man can now tell. For I've always meant, to go out a-Seeking, And all manner of things, They shall be well edited by IHNIWTR on 12/8/2013 -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daniel%20Vaise
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/9/2013	Just my 2c on this - NiteBrite spent 300-odd Nex on action refreshes and used up a Veils-Velvet scrap, and came away with NOTHING. So that's $50+ real money, 1500+ echoes, and hundreds of wasted actions, for nothing. I know the typical response to people complaining about SMEN's difficulty is "give up, this isn't for you," but going by NiteBrite's experience there, the Winking Isle is just plain mean-spirited. There's a point at which an interesting psychological experiment in game design crosses the line, and I think if you'd been around to see NiteBrite's real-time reactions in IRC, you'd agree with me that his experience at least did cross that line. His enthusiasm for finally getting to visit the island fizzled into depression as he realized all he'd wasted going there, for zero return - you can say "oh, that's intended, this is SMEN" all you like, but the fact is that we're all real people behind our computer screens and SMEN only needs to be as punishing as Alexis wants to make it. So I'll ask Alexis directly: given NiteBrite's experience there, do you feel that the Winking Isle is working as intended? Is his experience meant to be the typical one? I don't just mean that in an in-game sense, I also mean that in a real-life emotional sense. Is a player meant to go to Winking Isle and leave frustrated and angry and depressed? edited by Dolan on 12/9/2013
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FoxHope Posts: 6 12/1/2013	Well, my Notability is up to 6, and my Nex is substantially depleted. Wish me luck in getting to 7 before time drags me down again!
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FoxHope Posts: 6 12/2/2013	Well, after spending about $80 worth of Fate, and an afternoon of panicky grinding, I finally have my own illustration next to my name in Slowcake's Exceptionals. It looks delicious.
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/5/2013	God rest you merry gentlemen.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/6/2013	To be honest, [spoiler] I am worried the island is going to 'wink' out of existence sooner or later. It is "winking island" after all. Hopefully not at the end of the month along with the rest of the Christmas niceties (and this does seem very nice considering it is SMEN). But on that note, I want to say I'd be willing to only do a single cycle on the island for st. F's candle, then leave and pass the card on quickly without regaining st cerise or destins. I've gotten destin's and cerise's candle the hard way before (I didn't even betray anyone with seeker betrayls to do it either), and I can do it again. Shoot, I even heard there was a new broadcast of prize tokens to help speed things along in that regard. It will be easier, I feel, a second time around. The journey is well worth the struggle Should you choose me for the card, when I get back, I can immediately stats raise and grind notability so fast. so very fast. If I can get destins back quickly from that I could even help speed other's along in their cycles by passing destins back to my trust contacts (who are many) via confessions after they get st cerise or st F's candle. We can punch through this island at speed undreamed of, unparalleled. What's more is you'll have a hard time finding anyone nearly as prepared for this journey as I am. Not only do I have cerise and destins on hand and ready, I also have a high scraps value item, veils-velvet, that I am willing to sacrifice. I can get masters blood if you so require it for maximum speed, but I would strongly prefer to stay bohemian aligned if that is okay. My alignment is a rare and treasured luxury to me. Already, I am amassing my menace reductions social actions. As we speak, a dozen loyal friends (many of whom I gave a candle to or have aided in seeking in some way) and quite a few random strangers are spamming me with the ‘heal a friend’ social actions as hard as they can. I already have a stockpile of 40 heal request outstanding and that number is growing by the day. In turn, I am sending out nightmare reducers to them to hold on to. I have confident smiles stocked up from before the cap so getting to the island shouldn’t be too hard even if my stats are abysmal (my key flaw). But even so, I practically pioneered stats loss. I‘ve trained in it, mastered it, perfected it into an art form. And now I can eat menace and stats loss like you wouldn't believe. And that's not just talk, but proven fact. Ask anyone who sent a destins out. Halving your stats once, it takes guts. Doing it twice is mad. I've done it seven times, and that's not including all the losses I've gone through before while on the oblivion. I've burned over 2000 levels of stats and I’m still alive and kicking. I'm a very active player, one you can trust to keep the chain going for as long as possible and as fast as possible. What’s more, a lot of those stat burns were to benefit others. Sacrificing everything to push others onwards and forwards is what my character has always been about. Even when I was drinking oblivion, I would give the skulls it generated to random people seeking nadir via the nadir thread. All great things come at a cost. I paid that cost for many, and I continue to do so. When knife and candle first started and was invite only, I gave away every spare iron knife token I had to the people in the invite thread who asked even though this put me at a great disadvantage early on. I even lost knives and medals to accidental retirement I was issuing out so many tokens, and yet I persisted all the way until it became open to everyone. So much is my care for this game and this community. The selection process of sending the card is very important. There is only one card, and it’s very possible there may never be another. At this stage in seeking, now more than ever, trust is vital. Few are eligible for this journey. Fewer still are prepared. Now isn’t the time to balk at stats loss, to back away from menace. Forget action cost and echos lost. We have one task and one task only to perform. And that is advance the search for mr eaten’s name at all cost. It’s not even a reason of selfishness, I ask because I honestly believe I am the most prepared. Just like I’ve given spacemarine 49 enigmas because I know he is better prepared to solve the riddle of the proscribed materials than I am. Over three thousand echos lost in this endeavor alone and I don’t even have an overgoat to call my own. If I can get the new candle, I can scout ahead, placing myself in harm’s way thrusting into the unknown to make clear the path for those who follow. Here’s what I would imagine is an ideal time table of events. If you send me the card sometime next week, I should be able to complete my single candle run in a matter of a few days. Just enough stall time for spacemarine to try get hit by the candlecurious, and try the enigma option. I think then, assuming the candle curious doesn’t just wreck his eligibility completely, because if successful with the enigmas, its quite possible he’ll have more candles than anyone and having a lot of candles is the heart and soul, the very definition of progress as a seeker at this point in the game. If he takes roughly the same amount of time as you alexander, he’ll be there, what, a week and a bit. It could very well be that he would end up spending christmas alone with a well, and that’s a nice mental image. After that, passing the card is open to debate, prioritizing those with candles who are trusted, respected, active members of the community. We might get one more person on the island before the month ends. And whoever is out there is in danger of being on an island that could disappear forever with them on it. Although that’s just speculation. Its equally possible, that winking island will be there forever. In any case, I do hope you consider me as a possible candidate to receive mr eatens card. You won’t be disappointed with the results [/spoiler] edited by NiteBrite on 12/6/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Lady Red Posts: 517 12/5/2013	Alexis Kennedy wrote: God rest you merry gentlemen. How terribly sexist. outraged sniff -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lady~Red
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Shadowhand Posts: 197 12/5/2013	Blackleaf wrote: Watch the final candle be kill Alexis ingame through some convoluted story. On a side note. Something deeply disturbs me about Gawain. " Your opponents can now behead you. " Yes i get that it was part of the prank but still. What if being in posession of the candle opens up an attack that insta 8-wounds you. edited by Blackleaf on 12/5/2013 "A twist in your tale: you are now Headless!" -- Twitter: @mortshadow - Fallen London: Shadowhand Benjamin Gabbay, a silly and crafty individual of mysterious and indistinct intentions
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/5/2013	I'm not paranoid! You're just out to get me! -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Blackleaf Posts: 552 12/5/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: Blackleaf wrote: I could have been. But something known as sleep got in the way. Ah yes, sleep. I too have known its bitter sting. There is a reason I have no Mirrorcatch box, and never saw the Sunlight. Melancholy is increasing... -- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/3/2013	Well, I tried to send you a care package, but it seems that while calling cards can somehow reach you, sacks of rats cannot. Ah well. May you starve in glory. In the meantime, since I'm loathe to have such messages go to waste; The sound of rhythmic splashing stirs you from your meditation, and you lift your aching head with dull curiosity. A very disgruntled postman has paddled up to Winking Isle. He heaves a large package from his tiny rowboat and clambers onto the rocky outcropping. “Lessee here,” he mutters, giving your barren surroundings a wary once-over. “We got some rat stew, rat pudding, rat au vin, rat trifle, and… yep, dead rats.” He shakes his head and claps you on the shoulder, an action that you do not particularly appreciate. “Well, son, I can’t blame you for hiding out here if you’ve got some kinda crazy secret admirer like that. But rules are rules. Gonna have to ask you to sign for this right here, and here…” Bemused, you comply. He tips his hat to you as he leaves, and soon all is silent in the well’s long shadow once more. Hmm. Perhaps rat pudding isn’t so bad after all. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	No feasting yet, I'm afraid. Only Mr Eaten's crumpets for me. Ah, the crumpets of damnation, served with the butter of iniquity and the tea of misfortune. The biscuits are just biscuits. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/6/2013	an_ocelot wrote: Did we definitely establish this? I saw that 77 stats was necessary but not whether it was sufficient. Well, he posted a list of people who qualify. And outside of that, the rough guess is that it requires 77-77-77-77 and both St. Arthur's and St. Beau's candles. If I were in charge of this list personally, I would prioritize a.) people with top-tier items they're willing to sacrifice, for interest of text b.) people with candles, for reasons Malgorath already underlined and c.) prominent, trusted, and experienced players. If somebody well-meaning but ill-prepared gets hold of the invitation, they could end up stranded, and that's the end of the chain. Or somebody might care more about their friends than the chain, and send it off to somebody relatively unknown, and the card could vanish there. Also, longtime players are less likely to lose interest and quit, I would think. I'm really not trying to be elitist with said requirements, but we want to keep this circulating as long as possible, and if somebody gets stuck on the island, it can be months - or never, if they give up and quit - until the card can move on again. Also, then there's a measure of seniority - perhaps it's just me, but I feel that those that have been Seeking from the very beginning should get to try sooner rather than later. I don't have any real reason for it, but that's just how I feel. The purpose of sticking to a chain instead of 'whoever the person that has the card feels like giving it to' guarantees fairness (ability to move the card out of a given social circle, for starters) and also organization; it will help people prepare for the trip. I'm personally willing to send soup galore to whoever's next for the island. edited by Laluzi on 12/6/2013 -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: It's pretty great that the best thing to ward off the horrors and misery of fasting on an awful stony hopeless island is festive cheer and christmas cards. Delivered by the world's most dedicated postman, no doubt. "Neither Deluge Nor Ice Storm Nor The Black Silence Of The Netherhells Shall Stay These Messengers About Their Sacred Business. Do Not Ask Us About Sabre-Tooth Tigers, Tar Pits, Big Green Things With Teeth Or The Goddess Czol." - The Golem Postman, Anghammarad -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Sackville Posts: 295 12/6/2013	I'm just going to say yes.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	I'll admit I sobbed uncontrollably for a while. But that was probably more the feeling of panicked frenzy getting to me about an imagined deadline. Punishing can be fun, and I eximplify that often, like how I am with stat loss. This was cruel. But with the time panic gone, and the existence of multiple cards, and the knowledge that it wasnt a bug. I'll be okay. And no one else will have to experience the panic I did. Thank you for speaking up for me dolan, I wouldn't have said anything otherwise. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	Shadowhand wrote: Blackleaf wrote: Watch the final candle be kill Alexis ingame through some convoluted story. On a side note. Something deeply disturbs me about Gawain. " Your opponents can now behead you. " Yes i get that it was part of the prank but still. What if being in posession of the candle opens up an attack that insta 8-wounds you. edited by Blackleaf on 12/5/2013 "A twist in your tale: you are now Headless!" "It's only a flesh wound!" -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/4/2013	Behold, the sixth. [spoiler] [/spoiler] The Ravenous Prophet has spoken. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/4/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Allanon Kisigar Posts: 164 12/5/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: Blackleaf wrote: Alexander Feld wrote: For now. It is a cycle of gaining nothing, and losing nothing; only sometimes the nothing is something, and the something is nothing. ...I think I've drunk a bit too much Greyfields First Sporing. Also, St Destin's Candle plays hob with logic and grammar. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/5/2013 You do realise that theres gona be an angry mob outside your house demanding your calling card in a matter of days. My dear chap, whatever makes you think they're not here already? To ciel: You can get on without the items, but using the items incurs fewer menaces, takes fewer actions, and isn't a luck chance. Since, though, it looks like you'll lose anything you use, I don't think it makes much difference overall. I wouldn't say we're an ANGRY mob. He has been through quite an ordeal, and I suspect several of us Seekers hold him in an odd kind of reverence, having been the first honored and damned soul to visit the Great Well. So, perhaps more of a cross between a religious service and a crowd outside the house of a very famous yet very ill person. And considering the visit to the isle seems to be... slow, we'll just have to be patient, even as curiosity devours us. ... resists the urge to make grabby hands motions in the direction of the card. Such is undignified, even if curiosity is overwhelming -- A Gentleman of distinct and peculiar interests. Invites for social actions are most welcome, except for Boxed Cats, SMEN, and Affluent Photographer
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/5/2013	I know I've said this already but; I (obviously) want a go at the card, but not until I've gotten the required 77 Searing Enigmas for the Cyriac option, and not until after next Friday (that Candlecurious thing could possibly fire next week, if it exists and isn't an awful horrible prank. it probably is, but i'd rather not risk it. the suspense is /terrible/. don't want to spend 77 enigmas on getting a candle only to lose it because of bad decisions and Alexis being, well, Alexis.) -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Cocytus Posts: 187 11/26/2013	He's in my bank account. edited by Cocytus on 11/26/2013 edited by Cocytus on 11/26/2013 -- Cocytus, the Avuncular Wordsmith, a river outside a box. Stock Titus, a rapturous individual ahead of its time. (Dormant)
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bjorntfh Posts: 216 11/27/2013	The Seeker-Council is working on it. It's like a Spider-Council, but worse.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/26/2013	Oh my god that option sounds hilarious. I always thought Notability was hellishly difficult enough to be part of SMEN. Clearly Alexis agrees :v -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389 11/28/2013	Shall we play "creepy Gospel of Matthew quotes"? I have unearthed the following from the KJV. 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. And finally, the one we all hope is true... 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Edit: Worse yet, for the Masters... 26:21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. edited by Asclepius Unbound on 11/28/2013 -- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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FoxHope Posts: 6 12/2/2013	It was worth the money. Or, rather, Fallen London overall is worth the money. It's not often that I come across something that gives me as much enjoyment as Fallen London, so I think Alexis and his team deserve the money. To quote another thing that has given me inordinate pleasure beyond what I've paid for it: "Are you eating paper?" "Am I? How odd of me." The effects weren't as bad as I feared. I don't think I've lost anything permanently. But man, that was a lot of Notability grinding I just ate. I'll send out PMs of the results to those who want it.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 11/26/2013	Evariste S. Crumbledon wrote: FWIW, I just noticed a new entry on the Slowcake's amanuensis card that would allow one to devour one's own entry and gain St D's candle in the process. Delicious, papery fame. Since this is printed in what seems like quite a common book, I assume you have to track down every single copy and eat your entry out of each one.* Although I suppose there is a certain notability in being "that odd chap that keeps breaking into everyone's houses and eating their books." Does the option have anything to say on the subject of condiments? *I assume this because it amuses me. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/3/2013	Correct, Laluzi. I'm sure my welcoming party/funeral shall be excellent. The catering is just to die for. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Sackville Posts: 295 12/6/2013	Alexis could always stretch out St. Gawain's by giving us half the story on one Christmas and making us wait an entire year until the next part. Historically accurate suspense!
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	Sackville wrote: Alexis could always stretch out St. Gawain's by giving us half the story on one Christmas and making us wait an entire year until the next part. Historically accurate suspense! ...Will we also have to avoid the temptation of sleeping with Mr Eaten's wife? -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	] Spacemarine9 wrote: You can now manufacture an Impossible Theorem at the University! It costs forty nine Searing Enigmas. It can?! ... [spoiler]http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/1337grind[/spoiler] AHAHA THERE GO THE LAST OF MY ORIGINAL 90 ENIGMAS. STATS LOSS, THE MAD GAMBIT THAT PAID OFF LIKE A BANDIT. HAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAH HA HA HA HA HA edited by NiteBrite on 12/9/2013 edited by NiteBrite on 12/9/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	I didn't see your previous two edits! but no, your post isn't inappropriate. I rarely comment here. But given how frustrating this outcome can be (if it's any consolation, you won't be the last): - describing Winking Isle as a 'crapshoot' is fair, although it's possible to load the dice with expensive resources; - pace some misunderstandings here and in Alexander's time there, the Isle hasn't changed (though there are further unpleasant mechanics that haven't surfaced yet and it may change in future). - because I don't want (TEMPTING THOUGH IT IS) to inspire a panicked Fate spending free: I'll mention here once only that the Isle isn't time-limited for Christmas. (Pronoun edit for clarity.) edited by Alexis on 12/9/2013
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	NiteBrite wrote: my apologies, I thought it was different, Understandable. I'm not going to reveal the details of how it works, but it is an unpredictable place. And I don't want anyone getting the impression that it is, or is meant to be, fair! But given the distorting effect of one person at a time visiting the place in a tone of high excitement, and the rumour of a time limit, I thought I'd apply some rumour control. One very last thing: it won't always be only one person.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 12/9/2013	I really, really hope you can think of a solution that makes you happy. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Anstruther Barron Posts: 92 12/9/2013	Echoing what Sara and Dolan have said, there are a great many people, myself included who really enjoy the Eaten content and would be very sad to see it wrapped up in a hasty way or even abandoned entirely. I hope you can reconsider -- http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Anstruther~Barron
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	Unlocked, because there's been a development: I've had a refund demand from a player in respect of this content, which includes a legal threat [EDIT: since retracted, and please call off the witch-hunts! This doesn't change the fundamental nature of the problem]. I think this is probably barratry, and our refunds policy is 'at our discretion only' but I have to treat it seriously, and I have to reconsider whether it's practical to continue the Mr Eaten content. For the past year it's been a personal passion project that I can't justify commercially, and only gets work out of hours... in principle, but here I am in office hours dealing with it. There are three reasons that I don't provide customer support on it: one, because it makes it plain that Here Be Dragons; two, because then I don't have to provide support in company hours or out of hours, when bugs inevitably arise. There was one here: Nitebrite distributed a number of items to other players using (in good faith, I think) an accidental exploit, and when I removed them they were thrown out of the locked areas they'd entered, suffering loss of progress in the meantime. The party line is that players engaged in SMEN should be prepared to suffer random horrible things, and this is one of those things. EDIT: three reasons! Also, an air of mystery, which gets shredded when we end up in these conversations. I've always been very careful about adding Fate-locked content to the storyline for precisely this reason, but it's impossible to prevent people from spending Fate to accelerate their progress: and the 'no customer support' policy doesn't prevent people from feeling upset when they've spent money and don't get customer support. Consequently I'm going to take a week or so to think this over. At the moment the most likely responses are that I'll end the storyline prematurely and as cleanly as possible, providing what closure I can, freeze existing content and leave it in indefinite hiatus, [EDIT: or look at ways to domesticate it into mainstream content without changing the underlying fiction.] I am going to think about other solutions. I appreciate this is going to be a bitter disappointment to some of you, and I have to say it's a bitter disappointment to me. But capital-A Art (or capital-H Hobby, if you prefer) and capital-B Business is a volatile mixture, and I think I've got to take the safe road on this one. edited by Alexis on 12/9/2013
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David Lombard Posts: 79 12/8/2013	Like a vision it comes to you. Lyrics, melody. A doleful expression of the maelstrom that your mind has become. You are inspired and fulfilled. This calls for another drink! It's then you notice that the tavern is sepulchral, all eyes warily on you. Were you... singing? Aloud? The barkeep gives you a baleful glance, and nods his head to the burly doorman. You pull yourself from the Stolen River a half hour later, bloodied but satisfied. Inspired... is increasing... Dangerous is dropping... Wounds is increasing... edited by mblamar on 12/8/2013 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/David~Lombard
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Allanon Kisigar Posts: 164 12/7/2013	While I can definitely understand your point of view, I feel like I should make a few points on the topic. 1: While I concede the point that the agreement need not extend to this, (unless Alexander wishes it to. Whatever happens, it IS his card to send as he will), being both angry and insulting towards members of the agreement really, really doesn't help your points any. 2: For the "compensation" option, I can clearly state that NOTHING was expected, much less enforced gifts of Fate! The single occurrence in which it happened it was willingly given by someone, and if I found out someone was trying to pressure someone into overly rich compensation (which was something to be determined MUTUALLY by the two involved parties), especially involving real world currencies, I would rain fire down upon them, agreement consiquences or no, and I like to think others would as well. 3: Yes, it was against the spirit of both Knife & Candle, and the normal betrayal of Seeking, which was the entire point. If everyone involved in that level of Seeking at the time had signed on, perhaps the Great Search would have ground to a halt, perhaps the temptation would have been too much for some. Cannot say. In the end, I don't know really how much people went after those who attacked people in the agreement. I know some Enigmas were used, and some K & C attacks. Maybe there was too much, I never really struck back at people much. And I can agree that perhaps only those who were deliberately bad form (taunting and mocking, ect) in their betrayals should be considered for not recieving the card, but it's not up to me. Also, if people have been doing anything beyond either Enigma-ing or K & C at you, I intend to have some words with others in the agreement, as abuse is Not Cool. But like I said. Anger, bitterness, and insults at us is not going to make a lot of people want to agree with you, even if there is a well made point in it all. (Boy my fingers hurt now, why oh why did I type all that on my phone) -- A Gentleman of distinct and peculiar interests. Invites for social actions are most welcome, except for Boxed Cats, SMEN, and Affluent Photographer
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 12/8/2013	NiteBrite wrote: If I can pass 56 enigmas to space, I'm sure we as a community can find a way to get you prize tokens if you somehow don't have enough. But please do consider that time is of the essence. We can definitely get Alex that St Cerise's Candle if the island disappears. I'm 100% positive on this. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 12/9/2013	an_ocelot wrote: I figure the law of large numbers is gonna be on my side more doing the Fidgeting Writer because, well, the random/luck-based challenges are so many more. Will report back. It's 31 Enigmas to 77, I got (at least) 473 Tales of Terror, 342 Visions of the Surface, 489 Correspondence Plaques, 347 Brilliant Souls, 113 Identities Uncovered, and 62 Extraordinary Implications, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses. (Edit again: on further thought, I know I messed up my numbers and how, but screw it, maybe the RNG will love me for a change.) edited by an_ocelot on 12/9/2013 -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Ewan C. Posts: 675 12/9/2013	an_ocelot wrote: It's 31 Enigmas to 77, I got (at least) 473 Tales of Terror, 342 Visions of the Surface, 489 Correspondence Plaques, 347 Brilliant Souls, 113 Identities Uncovered, and 61 Extraordinary Implications, it's dark, and I'm wearing sunglasses. Hit it!
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/12/2013	OK, update! I've talked about it in a blog post to try to keep the Recept Posts page clear for non-Seekers, and also as an easy link for when someone next asks 'what's up with Mr Eaten?' http://www.failbettergames.com/?p=1331 cheers all!
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Blackleaf Posts: 552 12/6/2013	lady ciel wrote: I still like Matthew 7.7 - "Ask and it shall be given you; seek and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you" Quickly. Guys lets go knock on every eldtrich and evil looking door we can find. -- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 12/7/2013	About that agreement - I signed on but have never targeted a "Betrayer". I did steal some tokens from those who took mine but in the end decided it wasn't worth it. I did post names of those who stole from me but made it clear that they only got one token at a time (won by duelling). Then I even gave up on K&C for a while as it felt "tainted". I'm back playing again and maybe I will get tokens that way, maybe not, but some people have received tokens so I might get lucky and end up with 44 to buy a Waxwail Knife. But this is a game and everyone can play it how they want. I just didn't feel good about stealing tokens and still don't. I'm pleased that there is another way to get St Cerise's even if I don't manage to get to the Island any time soon or at all! -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	Last post before I eat me breakfast. Is a player meant to go to Winking Isle and leave frustrated and angry and depressed? edited by Dolan on 12/9/2013 Phrased this way, it's a have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife question. Did I (a) want NB to be angry, frustrated and depressed? Or (b) make a mistake? I'm not going to address (a) but I am going to point to the fact that I just hopped on the thread at 7am and let you draw your own conclusions. About (b). The warnings are there on the SMEN content for a reason, and I've always been really frank about it. Every so often something like this happens when the stakes are raised, and I periodically amp up the warnings. (A while ago I made it easier for people to opt out of the quest, and harder to opt out of the quest by accident, because I do think that the original effect of 'ha ha you're stuck on this quest and it'll keep taunting you with cards and telling you that you should stop' was unfortunate, and I know people have misclicked occasionally.) I don't want to talk in any greater detail here about my design goals for the Mr Eaten comment, but it's not intended as a a 'psychological experiment', it's intended as a piece of art. You could make a case for it being cheap or manipulative or tendentious or 'bad', but it's what I felt moved to make, it's what I made, and I've never imposed it on anyone. Dolan wrote: Just my 2c on this - NiteBrite spent 300-odd Nex on action refreshes and used up a Veils-Velvet scrap, and came away with NOTHING. So that's $50+ real money, 1500+ echoes, and hundreds of wasted actions, for nothing. Well: he got an experience he couldn't have got anywhere else, as part of a larger experience he also couldn't have got anywhere else. It's definitely not an experience that'd be to most people's tastes. I'll let the SMEN players decide for themselves whether this is something they want to be part of, or whether it's a sign that actually, this is just too aggressively niche.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	Wot you can throw down a well: Cantigaster Venom Master's Blood Breath of the Void Impossible Theorem Location of a One-time Prince of Hell Veils Velvet Scrap -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 12/6/2013	Shadowhand, you need Scholar of Correspondence 9 to make it give four scraps, but yeah. (And having nuked most of my connections, I see it a lot these days.) Edit: Three things, thinking about the current state of SMEN: 1) Y'all are great. 2) I am desperately curious whether this whole island thing was planned in advance, or was an impromptu decision when Alexander sent Mr Eaten a calling card request. I doubt I'll get an answer here, but I'll be in London next summer and maybe I'll, uh, bring American candy to the FBG office (or GBP to the nearest pub) and ask . . . 3) Should we start a betting pool on the amount of proscribed materials needed for the God's Editors card option? I vote 7,777 (because 777 seems too low). I could start a poll thread, if people want. edited by an_ocelot on 12/6/2013 -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	Restitution wrote: "For I was hungry, and I ate you. I was thirsty, and I drank you." What happened in there? Your memory is patchy.[...] The line in quotation marks wasn't there a few months ago, before the Cyriac option came along. St. Destin's Candle wrote: “I was hungry,” you say as you tear the page from the book, “and you gave me only the pelt of trees. I was thirsty, and you gave me only ink. I was mmff mff ff mm. Mmm hmm fm.” Your mouth is full of paper.[...] edited by Spacemarine9 on 12/6/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	Seven may be the number, but is it the quantity? :V -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/3/2013	I wonder if we can send him items over there? A care package of rats may be in order. Seekers aren't built for fasting, poor guy. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389 12/3/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: So unless you've found a way to mail Breath of the Void... It can only be sent between stars. -- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/3/2013	It is probably just a Destin's method, and I don't want to risk my stats yet, I need them for hithing, stealing Journals of Infamy and manufacturing Enigmas! Send it to Nitebrite, if anyone, they don't have any stats to start with :V -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 11/28/2013	Asclepius Unbound wrote: Shall we play "creepy Gospel of Matthew quotes"? I have unearthed the following from the KJV. 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. And finally, the one we all hope is true... 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Edit: Worse yet, for the Masters... 26:21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. edited by Asclepius Unbound on 11/28/2013 ...It now becomes apparent that Failbetter has been writing the Bible all along. Not only is Alexis a fez-wearing tiger, he is also a time-traveler. 100% Canon, right here. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Blackleaf Posts: 552 11/27/2013	bjorntfh wrote: The Seeker-Council is working on it. It's like a Spider-Council, but worse. Less legs, more masochism, more madness and a preference for candles over eyeballs. -- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	For now. It is a cycle of gaining nothing, and losing nothing; only sometimes the nothing is something, and the something is nothing. ...I think I've drunk a bit too much Greyfields First Sporing. Also, St Destin's Candle plays hob with logic and grammar. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/5/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/5/2013	Don't worry about losing stats friends. I've been hemorrhaging hundreds of stats levels for almost five months now, even before there was oblivion or a cave of nadir I was clicking every skull card I could find, and I have to say it really doesn't hurt game play much. And its way way easier falling from the top of stats and starting over than it was getting high stats in the first place. POSI challenges don't lock at low stats for example And its not too difficult to regain stats after losing them if you are careful about it. Wearing gear helps a lot if you need to do something specific in a hurry, but very few stats are actually important. You just have to focus on one goal at a time. Like, if you want lodgings cards, all you need is watchful over 70 with gear (70 lets you see all the lodgings). Occasionally I gear to dangerous 100 so that I can hithe up a fresh batch of enigmas for the enigma machine (I've sent space like 49 enigmas for the cause) but thats about it. You dont need shadowy to do the affair of the box if you use conflict cards (conflict cards are amazing <3) And you get decent cash every week from just waiting on nadir and professions even if you do nothing else. There are a lot of good stats-less challenges out there to keep things interesting too. So those of you worried about the stats hit, take it from a seasoned irrigoer, its going to be okay. As Alexis once said, you don't need stats if you get zen enough, and I took it to heart. Its true, stats are just a nice thing, not a necessary thing -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	Blackleaf wrote: I could have been. But something known as sleep got in the way. Ah yes, sleep. I too have known its bitter sting. There is a reason I have no Mirrorcatch box, and never saw the Sunlight. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Shadowhand Posts: 197 12/5/2013	I love how Alexis is watching this thread. Probably with the occasional maniacal laugh. Mr. Feld, a ream of Christmas cards are on their way. edited by Shadowhand on 12/5/2013 -- Twitter: @mortshadow - Fallen London: Shadowhand Benjamin Gabbay, a silly and crafty individual of mysterious and indistinct intentions
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deadcrystal Posts: 125 12/5/2013	You have an impressively naive and optimistic view of what might come of Gawains. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Alice~Darkmoor A determined Dolphin - Alexis Great Grind Empress, and Knife and Candle Queen
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/5/2013	xKiv wrote: NiteBrite wrote: You dont need shadowy to do the affair of the box if you use conflict cards (conflict cards are amazing &amp;amp;lt;3) I don't understand this. Aren't they all shadowy challenges, event the ones on the conflict cards? The difference between shadowy locked and shadowy challenged is subtle but extremely important. The conflict cards are possible to play even at low low levels. And tough challenges are efficient even on failure since you would be stats grinding. The conflict cards offer good stats gain with a chance of mad profit upon not so rare successes. If you worry about menace, using second chances can negate that too at a slight drop in overall efficiency. Edit: Note, I'm talking about plummeting ones stats into the 0's to low 30's and still being able to grind at near posi levels. Normally, you can't even attempt the affair of the box with shadowy less than like 120. With the removal of stats reducers and the implementation of broad difficulty, its hard to find good tough/impossible actions for stats gain. You come to appreciate how good it is to have an impossible challenge to bash your head against. But this is just one of many examples of how some of the best storylets and rare material grinds continue to be available at all levels, and how you can grind stats while still grinding way more profit than someone who gas never had high stats to begin with. edited by NiteBrite on 12/5/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/5/2013	Are you suggesting that the logic "It's okay to lose all stats in 'ability to walk down stairs' is fine because opportunities to throw yourself down them (which technically isn't walking) are available" is in some way flawed? :P edited by NiteBrite on 12/5/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Erik Vimes Posts: 182 12/5/2013	Blackleaf wrote: Alexander Feld wrote: Blackleaf wrote: I could have been. But something known as sleep got in the way. Ah yes, sleep. I too have known its bitter sting. There is a reason I have no Mirrorcatch box, and never saw the Sunlight. Melancholy is increasing... Sleepiness is increasing... -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Eric~Vimes
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/4/2013	Doh, I rushed to get my notability up thinking, maybe I could get a second destins not realizing it locks at no more than 0. Dang, a perfectly good crazy plan foiled by sensible storylet locks. I didn't think to check in advance because it seemed like one could have nothing and obtain nothing without gaining anything. but doh it was a bad plan haha mad candlescience has failed me this time -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/4/2013	Throwing away top tier items doesn't get you a Cerise's candle; Alexander sacrificed a Location of a Prince of Hell and only got Fasting progress. I don't think you need any of those items at all, they'll just help you progress for less actions more quickly. There might be a way to get Cerise on the island for all I know, but I don't think sacrificing items is it. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/4/2013	Inky Petrel wrote: While I have Master's Blood, I am afraid my quest for Mr Eaten's name will stop here, as I will never part with such a shiny and rare item, not even for a chance at a candle and furthering of my Search (what can I say, I'm a collector :p) I would wish my fellow Seekers well as you continue without me, but...there seems very little point. I shall simply wish you courage enough to endure. Thank you to those who have generously sent me damned and terrible things, I am in your debt. bows out edited by Inky Petrel on 12/4/2013 From what I can tell, I don't think the well actually requires you to throw it in there? It's just an option to get shiny new text. I mean, I'm happy to feed Mr Eaten Master's Blood. I'll even side with those hated Revolutionaries to obtain it. Poor guy seemed to want it, and, well. Any suffering I've gone through is not the dimmest light of a guttering candle to him. He's earned his chicken soup/blood of his fellow Masters/hordes of self-destructive idiots tripping over themselves to sacrifice everything in his name. edited by Laluzi on 12/4/2013 -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/5/2013	My stats are over 77 now with gear, and will be over 100 tomorrow for sure. I am pro-teir stats grinder after all those destins :v -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/4/2013	Asclepius Unbound wrote: Important: can you use items there? You cannot. an_ocelot wrote: Alexander, thanks for the update, and I'm sorry that I missed the chance to send you a calling card so I could help. Actually, it looks like I can still receive calling cards out here. babelfishwars wrote: I've no idea if I'm in the waiting list or not. I sincerely hope I am ... At this point, the waiting list is a highly complicated mathematical diagram, taking into account numerous variables, including the fact that I have no idea either. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/4/2013	Especially if it does halve your stats every time you receive it. You definitely don't want to have to ask for it back because you realized you weren't finished with it. I hope you do not consider me selfish if I take as long as I need; it seems only practical. I promise to only stay as far as I am bound by necessity and caution. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/4/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/4/2013	I do think it's slightly concerning that the "Out to sea" storylet Alexander echoed that sent him to the island has changed, though. Instead of describing the approach to the island, it just features a flat out refusal from the boatman. Maybe moving to the island is a rare success now, maybe it was a once off, maybe there'll be another way to the island that's more costly. It's all a big goddamn mystery. edited by Spacemarine9 on 12/4/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 12/4/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: I hope you do not consider me selfish if I take as long as I need; it seems only practical. I promise to only stay as far as I am bound by necessity and caution. Never think it, and if my enthusiasm has given this impression, I apologize most sincerely. -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/25/2013	Alright so here's the bidness that's gone down while we were all in the grip of a tyrannical censor ghost; Hopefully none of this is too spoilers. I'll shove it all in a tag anyway, just to be safe. [spoiler] First off; that list. Having Reputation: Abomination puts you on the list. And being on the list makes you eligible for... a certain social action, in a certain place. I'm not going to say where because that might end in tears for all of us. Let's just say it's a rather nightmarish challenge. It does, however, improve your Reputation for some reason. Because Reputation increases and decreases at a glacial pace, if you have, say, a very high Reputation because of all the rats you've sent, you're not going to get off that list easily. Ex-Seekers still seem to be eligible, too. Second; God's Editors. A new option has shown up on practically anything to do with them (such as joining them or doing work for them) It requires 77 Searing Enigmas and some mysterious quantity of Proscribed Material. How much? God, I wish I knew. Third and finally; On the Restitution card, a pair of new options have shown up; Hithe and Trithe Both require a point of Abominable Rep; Hithing requires 7 Searing Enigmas and 100 Dangerous, Trithing requires 3 Hard-earned lessons, 150 Dangerous and 3 Searing Enigmas. You need at least one point of Reputation: Abomination to do either of them. It's... some sort of challenge. Dangerous, I think. The loser loses 7 Enigmas in Hithing and 3 Enigmas in Trithing. Hithing gives the sender the advantage, Trithing gives no advantage to either party. The winner gets the Enigmas the other lost. Also, the sender loses 2-3 points of dangerous if Hithing and 1-2 points if Trithing. Both modify Abominable in some way... not sure if increase or decrease. Hithing also gives both parties a terrifying amount of menace (about 7-10CP in all four). [/spoiler] I want someone to scrawl MONSTER on my door :[ edited by Spacemarine9 on 11/25/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Aspeon Posts: 311 11/28/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: Asclepius Unbound wrote: Shall we play "creepy Gospel of Matthew quotes"? I have unearthed the following from the KJV. 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. ...It now becomes apparent that Failbetter has been writing the Bible all along. Not only is Alexis a fez-wearing tiger, he is also a time-traveler. 100% Canon, right here. Funny story about 5:15: on another thread, Catherine Raymond proposed that God's Editors are a reference to the creation of the English Revised Version of the Bible. That version changes this verse from "candle" to "lamp." -- A raccooning will not be postponed indefinitely. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Aspeon
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 11/28/2013	Little The wrote: Someone by the name of Regas has just offered me St Destin's candle with the attached message "FALL DOWN A WELL," despite my repeated assertions that I don't want the thing. Not sure what to do now. This is awkward. Compromise. Don't accept it, but just let it sit there indefinitely. Limbo is quite an appropriate place for a candle made of nothing, and at some point you may find it advantageous to be able to claim the candle. Of course, I'm a big proponent of never throwing anything away if it could possibly be useful... -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/29/2013	If you missed Hallowmas then you aren't going to be eligible for a Destin's Candle gift. You're gonna have to eat yourself. Well, your entry in Slowcake's. same thing -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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NinjaComedian Posts: 202 12/3/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: It is probably just a Destin's method, and I don't want to risk my stats yet, I need them for hithing, stealing Journals of Infamy and manufacturing Enigmas! Send it to Nitebrite, if anyone, they don't have any stats to start with :V I thought I'd keep discussion of this over here rather than keep cluttering the calling card thread with it. It seems like our man on the Island and one of the others seem less convinced that this calling card ting is not necessarily Destin's related. Certainly the reported costs of options on all this stuff are extremely high - perhaps even higher that I would have expected based on the "each will be harder than the last" thing. If this is Destin's, then I have no idea how they'll follow it with an even harder method. And then there's the Enigma thing too - which seems like it might be more likely to be a Destin's method but no one knows yet. I had originally thought that we were going to get all the Destin's stuff first before we got anywhere near St. E's Candle. But now I have paranoid theories that St. E's and St' F's are both in play and I'm sat here repairing my stats and grinding Making Waves for Notability.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 12/3/2013	Cantigaster Venom sells at 312.5 echoes. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/3/2013	That is an echo of some content relating to Saint Arthur's Candle, if I'm not mistaken. It doesn't have anything to do with Mr Eaten's vacation home/super fun north party. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 12/6/2013	I still like Matthew 7.7 - "Ask and it shall be given you; seek and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you" -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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dov Posts: 2580 12/6/2013	an_ocelot wrote: Three things, thinking about the current state of SMEN: 1) Y'all are great. ... I second that. This whole SMEN thing is fascinating from a group-dynamic perspective. I'm sure Alexis can take all the behind the scenes data and write a psychology paper on this. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	Shadowhand wrote: It has been my experience with riddles of vagueness that the answer is always the most obvious. If there is any discrepancy, it's not going to work out. I'm just really worried Spacemarine's going to lose all his work over this Bible-verse scrabble. edited by Shadowhand on 12/6/2013 I don't think it's a coincidence that a SMEN storylet got a distorted quotation of Matthew 25:35 at the same time as the Cyriac option becoming available. It has to be relevant somehow, and if that's not the right value then we're basically just firing in the dark with "maybe some number of sevens or possibly another quote that sounds relevant enough". As well as that, the most recent non-Winking Isle Destin's method features the same quote distorted differently. The only thing is: Matthew 25:35 and Matthew 25:42 are fairly similar, except one says basically the opposite of the other. I think 25:35 is more likely, though, but it's a damn close thing. An additional advantage of waiting until next week; there's a slightly better chance of gaining more illumination through other storylets, be it additional festive SMEN content or other people's adventures on Winking Isle. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/6/2013	Oh, I forgot to mention, I have an assload of fate, if we're counting that. Really I'm most interested in spending unique items there - I'm not the only person with Master's Blood, but so far no one else seems to have candles C and D along with Breath of the Void and Cantigaster's Blood. The text relating to the Cantigaster seems to imply that he was involved with Mr. Eaten's demise somehow - which is doubly interesting, because the Duchess seems to be one of the only people not too put off by Mr. Eaten. You can talk about him at her little soiree and she seems fine with it.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	Yeah as Bjorn guessed I've got ABCD; hell, I've had C since waxwails cost 77 prize tokens. I don't actually have any of the requisite high-tier items, but I do have 2.8k scraps so I could probably scrape together enough for one item by next week. Assuming the card doesn't evaporate into ether after someone gets Forthigan, but hopefully Alexis isn't that mean. Hopefully. I just don't want to do anything under fear of Candlecurious undoing it. I mean it's not incredibly likely, especially after all the goofing about with boxes of exploding misery and plated primeval instruments but I just don't want to chance it :v unless Alexis specifically comes in and says it was a prank. But he might not be telling the truth! TRUST NOTHING -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	You can also raise Fasting using a 10-action 50/50 luck challenge; failure does nothing, success raises Fasting. Although there are apparently menaces attached, and if you get 8 Nightmares or Wounds, you can't fast or meditate any longer. Or leave, so if you goof up you may end up marooned for a very long time. Or forever. Getting Destin's seems to require 77 Fasting, Cerise's 77 Fasting and Destin's, Forthigan 77 Fasting, Destin's and Cerise's. edited by Spacemarine9 on 12/6/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Erik Vimes Posts: 182 12/6/2013	Laluzi wrote: All the listing suggestions I think your ideas are all valid here, and I like the idea of seniority being a factor, but 1) it's hard to determine if people haven't been avid on the forums 2) I'd have to make sure people tell me the truth about when they started 3) someone shouldn't be put on the back-burner just because they arrived on the quest sooner. I'm going to restructure the list, using the candles as basis, as they are the greatest factor. We can work in items and etc from there. (sadly that puts me far down on the list) I'll need a lot of help knowing who has what candles. PM me if you're on the list of "Unknown info" with which candles you have. D and C NiteBrite (C and D) SpaceMarine9 (C and D) Blackleaf (C and D) Dolan (C and D) Shadowhand (C and D) bjorntfh (C and D) Sara Hysaro (C and D) ONLY AFTER CHRISTMAS Only C (makes more sense to rank this higher, as C requires getting D) Eric Vimes (C, no D) Malgorath (C, no D) Only D an_ocelot (no C, D) NinjaComedian (no C, D) Laluzi (no C, D) DOESN'T QUALIFY Blackleaf (no C, D) Neither Candle Corran (no C, no D) WILL WAIT Unknown info Misbiopsy xKiv Asclepius Unbound (no C) mayexist babelfishwars Sackville Dharlome Little The Allanon Kisigar (C) Anstruther Barron dov (no C) Howard John Abrahall lady ciel (no C) edited by Eric Vimes on 12/6/2013 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Eric~Vimes
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Erik Vimes Posts: 182 12/6/2013	Well. (heh) There are people aplenty queuing up for this card. Regardless of if it will be passed on, when, and to whom, I've compiled a list of everybody who has requested it so far (in mostly chronological order). Hopefully this will be of use. (if I missed anybody, PM me and I'll edit you in) Laluzi Misbiopsy Sara Hysaro SpaceMarine9 bjorntfh Eric Vimes an_ocelot NinjaComedian xKiv Asclepius Unbound mayexist babelfishwars Dolan Sackville Dharlome Little The Shadowhand Malgorath Allanon Kisigar Anstruther Barron dov Howard John Abrahall Corran Quite a list, I see. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Eric~Vimes
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Malgorath Posts: 124 12/6/2013	Erik Vimes wrote: Quite a list, I see. Lazuli wrote: Well, you can take me off the list, because I don't qualify, alas. Yes, I think the list needs to be structured like this, with each section in chronological order: Those with C an D Those with D, not C Those with C, not D Those with neither It seems like the quickest setup, as it'll take someone the least time when they have have both, then when they have the one that takes longer to get, then the other, then none. And the quicker this gets set up like this, the easier it can be to manage the list as more Seekers ask for the card (if this source of candles becomes a long term thing). -- Phil - TRAVELLER RETURNING Malgorath - A new member of the Neath.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/7/2013	Perhaps getting St E's Candle first will make things easier? I have absolutely no source or substantiation for this theory but my own wishes. But it'd make a bit of sense; follow the correct progression of candles, and you don't get quite as wrecked. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Allanon Kisigar Posts: 164 12/6/2013	Wow, I oversleep for a few hours and there's four new pages of stuff. I am also in favor of the Agreement thing, however, while it could reveal interesting snippets, I don't feel that priority should go simply towards those who have the most shiny items to throw down the well. -- A Gentleman of distinct and peculiar interests. Invites for social actions are most welcome, except for Boxed Cats, SMEN, and Affluent Photographer
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	I hopefully won't need any extra enigma contribution; howev, the best way to go about getting enigmas yourself is probably robbing journals/tales in the Flit using thefts of particular character, converting those to extraordinary implications and then to Uncanny Incunabula, and then taking those Incunabula to the University, where they can be turned into Enigmas. it's certainly not fast, but it works. Consider zeroing in on the Unlikely Garden card in the Nadir, as well. also i don't think blackleaf has Cerise's candle, he just got St Beau's last week. edited by Spacemarine9 on 12/6/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/6/2013	The E Candle is most likely from the 77 enigma option. edited by Dolan on 12/6/2013
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Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389 12/6/2013	Spacemarine9, that Destin's quote gives your approach more credibility - I hadn't seen it. The likely Gospel of Matthew quotes I found were and are: 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 26:21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. If I have to take a stab at one (if Spacemarine9 is wrong), it'll be 26:21, followed by 5:15. -- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/9/2013	I still have a card floating in my messages tab buried under a half dozen nightmare requests someone sent. Which card is Card Prime? I don't want to get sliced in half only to lose the card due to a bug (I don't know if it still has all the menace and stat damage intact but whatever you get the idea) -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	... I FORGOT THEY ARENT SEEKING AAAAAAAAA D: -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Sackville Posts: 295 12/8/2013	If he's lost nothing and gained nothing he's probably traded Destin's for Cerise's and then regained Destin's, in which case he's going for Forthigan right now, and then gets to get Destin's, Cerise's, and Destin's again all over afterwards. Which would put him at... about a third of the way there, assuming every candle takes 77 F&M. Or at least that would be my guess. I could also of course have no idea what's going on and be completely wrong about everything.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/8/2013	Changing the value of Airs of London will change the card that you can send! Do this easily by robbing a drunk in Spite -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/8/2013	The Rat of Glory! A masterwork of the chandler's art, but also occasionally a trojan horse for Scuttering Company burglars. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/8/2013	You can now manufacture an Impossible Theorem at the University! It costs forty nine Searing Enigmas. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/8/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: Restitution wrote: "For I was hungry, and I ate you. I was thirsty, and I drank you." What happened in there? Your memory is patchy.[...] The line in quotation marks wasn't there a few months ago, before the Cyriac option came along. St. Destin's Candle wrote: “I was hungry,” you say as you tear the page from the book, “and you gave me only the pelt of trees. I was thirsty, and you gave me only ink. I was mmff mff ff mm. Mmm hmm fm.” Your mouth is full of paper.[...] edited by Spacemarine9 on 12/6/2013 doublepostin' but a new thing has approached: "Give to the Church" on Restitution has another line added. "For they are hungry, and you have them no meat, they are thirsty, and you do not quench them." ...which suggests 25:42. even though in the Destin's option, it seems like you're about to go and say another thing but then you shove paper in your mouth. welp! there's a whole 7 passages between the two of those as well. hhh -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/9/2013	Yikes. Clearly the manager was hiding on the island. With a net. Did you get anywhere near Nightmares 8, or was it a rare success/failure? Maybe Alexis has destroyed the island and tht was his way of booting you off of it (I hope not, but...) -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	There were some changes from when alexander was on the island. One, progress and loss of progress could both range 1-10. so you could lose more than you gained. Making the whole thing a crapshoot. Two, you get menace both on success and failure. And three, when I did hit 8 nightmares it tried to take me to the royal beth and ate all progress instantly. Only it couldnt take me to the royal beth so I was caught in an infinite loop for a while. A loop of accepting going there and then it not taking me and trying to take me there again. Its effectively impossible. 300 fate, 20 actions a refresh, for someone going in without fate that would have been 600 actions. So basically imagine a very active player spending 10 days on an island making effectively no progress and then out of no where losing everything on day 10 because the game tries to send you to the royal beth. That is the current state of winking island. If this holds true for the rest of its run, well, that means its no longer possible to brute force the island. You are required to have a ton of the high value items. I just dont see any other way around it. Note: The use of fate was my own choice. I wanted to do my run as fast as possible and make way for the next candidate as soon as possible. I know how frenzied everyone is over this card and I didn't want to spend a literal 10 days there when we are speculating it will be gone in a couple weeks. So dont take my loss of fate as an example of the costs. Think of it more like a loss of several days. also its an approximate fate value because I am distressed didnt keep good count and will properly count it later. Edit: The island is still there, I can go back. But I am not hopeful anymore that any amount of preparation outside of 11 veils-velvets is going to be enough. Edit 2: I'll be alright in the morning. If this post or the previous was or is inappropriate I profusely apologize. I'm in a bit of a state and not thinking clearly. edited by NiteBrite on 12/9/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/8/2013	Yeah Alex, call it a day once you get Forthigan's and send the card on to NiteBrite, we can get you the remaining candles.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/8/2013	I have eighty enigmas, I'm just waiting until Friday because Candlecurious. I am fairly certain it'll turn out to be a hilarious possibly goldfish based prank, but you never know with that Alexis dude. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/8/2013	Just going to confirm here; the sleeper agent from the rat of glory can steal all of your Seeker candles. I was very lucky that the RNG chose to spare my single, precious Candle, but do take this enigma-bearing gift with a grain of arsenic. Does arsenic come in grains? Whatever. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/7/2013	i think we may have clogged all the pipes with rats and now they've burst -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Shadowhand Posts: 197 12/9/2013	Inspired by the heartwarming comradery evident on this forum thread, I thought I may as well start converting my UI to Enigmas to get a sense of the conversation rate. I was promptly Hithed by William Dawson III, so there's my lesson learned. -- Twitter: @mortshadow - Fallen London: Shadowhand Benjamin Gabbay, a silly and crafty individual of mysterious and indistinct intentions
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	Jokes on you there are already multiple people on the island I master minded that :P ...by which I mean the card keeps duplicating itself when I send it out. So more of stumbled onto than masterminded. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/9/2013	Oh. The duplicate people on the island had their mr eatens cards removed, were booted, and lost their progress. I thought thats what you meant by not always being one person on the island. Uh. In that case, I still have three mr eatens cards. I'll hold off on passing it further for now. Alexander had 2 last I spoke with him. Also I still have a pending send social action with spacemarine too. If these are bug cards I'll wait for them to be rectified before passing further. I don't mean to intentionally cheat. I just misinterpreted your statement above as codifying the duplicate cards as intentional and gave the others the go ahead to proceed. Like, all along we could have been duplicating the card but were too panicked to ever try. Not the case apparently. Apologies to everyone who accepted a card and suffered a lot of menace from my error. I didn't know. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/9/2013	There are a lot of typos in this last batch of content. St Forthigan's Candle is spelled without the H on the item itself, even! Edit: Nooo, my card! Tragedy! The tiger comes like a thief in the night. I was hoping to hold onto that. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/9/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexis Kennedy Posts: 1374 12/9/2013	After a couple of aggressive comments that I've just deleted, I'm going to lock this thread until tempers have cooled. I'm also going to lock out the entry to the Mr Eaten content for a day or so and think it over. This isn't any kind of punishment, I'll likely bring it back online, but I want some time to consider.
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Leraika Posts: 56 12/9/2013	Dolan wrote: I mean, speaking as a player here, it's always been the lore behind Mr. Eaten that's made the storyline the most interesting to me. I really REALLY want to find out the whole background with what happened to him, and maybe help him achieve whatever Reckoning won't be indefinitely postponed. I would absolutely hate to see it prematurely cut short with some anticlimactic and probably necessarily ambiguous hasty ending. This, really. As an aside, Alexis, thanks for a clear explanation on what exactly happened. I'd really prefer both 'Alexis ends up happy' and 'Mr Eaten continues', but if that's not possible...well, I'd prefer the Reckoning be indefinitely postponed than given a hasty ending. -- Leraika - Smoldering Academic and occasional woman-about-town Feel free to send me requests!
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Shadowhand Posts: 197 12/6/2013	Blackleaf wrote: I just wish we could get more hints. If we could get a side quest thats 100% optional but gives us a bunch of lore on Mr.Eaten and this St.Mathew option. All we know of Eaten is that he was drowned in the well beneath the temple. And some more terryfying stuff too. So. Random theory. Do you guys think the Candles represent the 7 sins or perhaps they represent the five stages of grief? Arthur is denial. Notice how it progresses you later start becoming abominable, your denial of "Not being a monster" coming through. Beau could be anger. That one doesnt make much sense though. Cerise being bargaining actuly makes a great deal of sense since you have to "Buy" this candle. Destin is is depression. Nothingness and emptiness. But what is E. And how do the other 2 candles come in? Anyone got any theories on the seven sin ones? Aren't there supposed to be 7 candles? We know Gawain's is the 6th. If it relates to anything, it's the sins, but that still feels rather like forcing square pegs into round holes. Virtually all the candles could be attributed to gluttony. -- Twitter: @mortshadow - Fallen London: Shadowhand Benjamin Gabbay, a silly and crafty individual of mysterious and indistinct intentions
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	Gawain's is almost certainly 7th; alphabetical, you see. Forthigan's is 6. Edit: Correction brigade pileup edited by Alexander Feld on 12/6/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Guy Scrum Posts: 197 12/6/2013	After quietly watching this thread for some time, I'd like to add my name to the bottom of the list. I have the first four candles and a vial of master's blood, but I only have 2k scraps and not many second chances. I'm in no rush, and I'd be happy to help others if I can. Also, I would be remiss not to mention a certain agreement that is in effect. I would much rather see the card go to those that have helped others towards the name than to those who have willfully hindered their fellow seekers. The latter category includes Dolan, bjorntfh, and Shadowhand (sorry, but if the agreement is to have any effect I at least have to try to enforce it). My vote would be for NiteBrite to be at the top of the list, followed by Spacemarine9. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Guy%20Scrum Interactive fidgeting writer simulation
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Shadowhand Posts: 197 12/6/2013	Blackleaf wrote: Its "Arthur(1),Beau(2),Cerise(3),Destin(4),Esomething(5),Forthigan(6) and Gawain (7)" Damnit my math is bad. I can't believe the storyline's end is actually in sight. Guy Scrum wrote: After quietly watching this thread for some time, I'd like to add my name to the bottom of the list. I have the first four candles and a vial of master's blood, but I only have 2k scraps and not many second chances. I'm in no rush, and I'd be happy to help others if I can. Also, I would be remiss not to mention a certain agreement that is in effect. I would much rather see the card go to those that have helped others towards the name than to those who have willfully hindered their fellow seekers. The latter category includes Dolan, bjorntfh, and Shadowhand (sorry, but if the agreement is to have any effect I at least have to try to enforce it). My vote would be for NiteBrite to be at the top of the list, followed by Spacemarine9. Alas, I agree. Sorry for being a little naughty in my quest for Cerise; I was not quite fully acquainted with the community at the time. edited by Shadowhand on 12/6/2013 -- Twitter: @mortshadow - Fallen London: Shadowhand Benjamin Gabbay, a silly and crafty individual of mysterious and indistinct intentions
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/6/2013	I think its to keep people from going back. Greed is a killer. Probably it will get harder and harder every day until its so hard no one can get st F. Let alone any pipe dreams of regaining C and D. edited by NiteBrite on 12/6/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Dolan Posts: 296 12/6/2013	Well there's nothing saying getting the 7th candle will be the end of the SMEN storyline. That's just the end of this segment of it. Also, Alexander, what's your current status on the island? Not to pester you, but it'd be nice to get the queue moving along here. Some of us are worried the card might be temporary and will disappear after Christmas.
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serguma Posts: 65 12/6/2013	I guess having the fate-locked sheperd of souls opportunity card show up would make getting rid of menaces quite easier, but alas I don't know if you have it available... No idea about how many CP the Greyfields First Sporing heals, sorry -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/serguma
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/7/2013	Oh I think I can manage that haha I can manage that quite well, in fact I've been holding well wishers back all day. But no more.Instead, the opposite! Everyone! its time to step things up a thousand fold! AHAHAHAHA Stats loss, menace, impossible luck challenges? CHILDS PLAY. Oh Alexis, you haven't even begun to scratch the surface of my madness. edited by NiteBrite on 12/7/2013 -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/7/2013	And now is when alexis reveals that candles are suddenly theftable and this island was a giant bait to lure everyone out into the open. (this didn't actually happen... except in my nightmares) -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	Asclepius Unbound wrote: Professor Arala wrote: Assuming that this pretty definitively clinches having to go in there with C and D already in hand, yes? Or a lot of high-end items. Is there a comprehensive list anywhere of what items it'll accept? And if not, can we make one? Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell Cantigaster Venom Veils-Velvet Scrap Masters’ Blood Breath of the Void Impossible Theorem Edit: Maybe I should start waiting a few seconds before answering questions. I'm not sure how much sacrificing gives you, but it wasn't a spectacularly large amount. My one success on the Fasting thing now gave me 8. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/6/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	Spacemarine9 would be a prime candidate, being the foremost expert on candles (possibly except me, now), but he has deferred a high spot on the list; preferring to work on his Enigma machine. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/6/2013	I'm working on grinding notability 7 so I can eat my slowcakes entry if I lose my destins. I've really wanted to try that option, it looks fun, but alas, my already having destins candle prevents it from being so. Also time the healer hit me a lot the other day eating a few hundred echos of bottled souls. Another thought that came to mind. My friends are uniquely advantaged. See, I have a destins, and Trust with many seekers. and I kept a single point of confessions. I could, in theory, regift destins candle to any of my seeker contacts with whom I have trust should they happen to lose their destins. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Sackville Posts: 295 12/5/2013	It's especially odd if you began Seeking through St. Arthur's, which even has Scholar of the Correspondence as a requirement.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	You do need to sacrifice Destin for Cerise going off of what Alexander's shown me so yeah, it could take a while. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/6/2013	NinjaComedian wrote: Worst case for me would be: Give up D for C, regain D, give up C and D for F, regain D, give up D to regain C, regain D. This is, in fact, exactly how it works. Worst case scenarios are kind of standard operating procedure for Seeking. And NiteBrite? That is, uh... a very persuasive argument. I think you are now at the top of the list; although I would not like to encourage filibustering as a method of climbing the ladder. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/6/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/6/2013	It's pretty great that the best thing to ward off the horrors and misery of fasting on an awful stony hopeless island is festive cheer and christmas cards. Delivered by the world's most dedicated postman, no doubt. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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streetfelineblue Posts: 1459 12/6/2013	Alexander Feld wrote: lady ciel wrote: Time well spent off the Island Alexander, congratulations on your new profession. Thank you; I was nearly at Notability 5 when I got dragged into this quest, and I got so much MW from all the people watching me (sending cards and things), that it seemed only practical. I even had the unsigned letter in my hand. streetfelineblue: Hold off on the cards for now; I'll be back on the island soon enough. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/6/2013 I'll be ready (Airs of London may be a fickle mistress, but that's what robbing drunks is for XD), just let me know either in this thread or via PM ^^ The same for Wounds. -- Twitter: @streetfelineblu Blue's LiveJournal Blue's Echo Bazaar profile Blue's Night Circus diary Link to Ocelot's Enigma Ambition hint page; PM for clarification. No direct solutions provided.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/3/2013	The curse the sun text also comes from betraying the sixth person for St. Arthur, which is where I got it. All thanks to Gloria Marie Valdez. bow -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/3/2013	I don't know what's up with either option, to be honest, but there is one Destin method unaccounted for at the minute. The fourth repetition appeared at the same time as the Calling Card stuff... But at the same time, Winking Isle seems a bit too involved for Destin at this point. Maybe the Cyriac option and Winking Isle lead to the same conclusion in the form of the fifth candle? Maybe neither lead anywhere and its a goose chase within a goose chase :V -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/3/2013	The second Destin's method was a snowball, but it was seasonally locked. This one does not appear to be. Yeah, this is cryptic. That's a fairly common theme to SMEN content. There's no mention of Destin, yes. But St Destin's Candle is the candle that does not exist. It is nothing; it is substance imagined in an empty space. So far, it has been gained by seeing the ruin your choices will lead you to, the spreading of a poisoned idea, and consuming your fame. Meditating on the well does not seem an implausible fourth. This isn't the first time the god-eaters have been mentioned, either. The text was very, very interesting, but it did not tell me anything I did not already know about Mr Eaten from other storylets and implications. This could be E. It seems very unlikely that it is F or Gawain, given that E hasn't been released yet. We don't know anything. We'll have to wait and see. But I've said my piece. edited by Laluzi on 12/4/2013 -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Snowskeeper Posts: 575 12/3/2013	On Alexander's profile, there's an echo entitled "Curse the Sun." In this text, the person who writes the text refers to themself as "I." Before we go any further with this line of thought, was this related to the Name, Mr. Feld? Blackleaf wrote: We should assemble some sort of welcome committee down at wolfstack for Alexander. Or arrange a funeral incase of a worst case scenario. We will be sure to find an appropriate Gift for his sacrifice. Rats, perhaps, or some of the warnings, lessons, confidences and insights we have discovered throughout London from time to time. Would this be agreeable? edited by Snowskeeper on 12/3/2013 -- S.F., a midnight midnighter and invisible eminence. Impossible to locate them, personally, but there are dead drops and agents.
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Krayven Posts: 110 11/29/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: If you missed Hallowmas then you aren't going to be eligible for a Destin's Candle gift. You're gonna have to eat yourself. Well, your entry in Slowcake's. same thing Ah ok, (think that had come up before but I forgot). Thanks for the clarification. Just crossing my fingers that it doesn't cross off any future notability forever - and that it doesn't take away more than 77 change levels from society. -- ----------------------------------------------------- MY PROFILE: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Howard~John~Abrahall - A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. - Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. - Oscar Wilde
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Blackleaf Posts: 552 12/3/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: It is probably just a Destin's method, and I don't want to risk my stats yet, I need them for hithing, stealing Journals of Infamy and manufacturing Enigmas! Send it to Nitebrite, if anyone, they don't have any stats to start with :V IT KEEPS HAPPENING -- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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Blackleaf Posts: 552 12/2/2013	So someone just sent a calling card to Mr Eaten and got a unique item. No really. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Alexander~Feld It's in the calling card thread on the second page. edited by Blackleaf on 12/2/2013 -- No cats or investigations of photographers please. Same goes for Sparring,Loitering,Suppers and Games of chess! Sure I'll accept them occasionaly but I wont help you grind them most of the time. But calling cards are highly welcome! (Got too much influence for cards at the moment. Sorry!) Character profile can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Blackleaf Ware serpents and know spires.
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merusdraconis Posts: 52 12/3/2013	If one intends to take up seeking (with an alt, mind), and has access to Mahogany Hall and an emptiness in their stomach, is it better to start there or have another set them on the path?
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/28/2013	Asclepius Unbound wrote: It appears to have gotten kinder since I did it. Can anyone break down for me what Hithing and Trithing seem to do? I'm currently sitting without any R:Abomination and rather pleased with the fact. Hithing requires 7 enigmas and 100 Dangerous. Sending the challenge reduces your dangerous by a small chunk. Sender gets an advantage. The winner gets 7 Enigmas, the loser loses 7 enigmas. Both parties get about 7-8CP of every menace. Trithing requires 3 enigmas, 150 Dangerous and 3 Hard-Earned lessons. Sending the challenge reduces dangerous by an even smaller chunk. Neither party has the advantage. The winner gets 3 Enigmas, the loser loses 3 Enigmas. No menace. Both require a point of Reputation: Abomination to use or be eligible for. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 11/26/2013	It requires you to have 77 Connected: Society, 7 Notability, 7 Making Waves, and no profession. It goes without saying that you'll lose all of it, of course. And who knows what's on the other side of that option, punishment-wise. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/26/2013	Well, you need [spoiler]no profession, notability 7, MW 7 and society 77 as well. [/spoiler] I'd warrant it even locks you out of Notability forever, but maybe that's too mean. e; laluzi!!!! a whole twenty seconds sooner than me edited by Spacemarine9 on 11/26/2013 -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/28/2013	hahaha well trust me to think up of roughly the worst way to do it :V tbh I think I miscounted the number of actions required to successfully complete a theft of particular character -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 11/28/2013	People... asked... if destin's candle was wanted? I just sent as many as I could at random. Candle spam. I ended up giving out six whole candles, not bad ey? -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 11/26/2013	Howard John Abrahall, you don't lose the candle when you pass it on, because it "doesn't exist". It seemed to be about half your stats for sending, and about 5 levels for receiving. -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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streetfelineblue Posts: 1459 11/26/2013	Howard John Abrahall wrote: Damn - in trying to play my character as intended, (I have a very particular way of going about SMEN), I have constantly kept my abomination at 0-1. - So to have these extra options and cards come up, you need at least one? - Second, there was some mutterings about stealing fire, and mind bullets, (involving murder and prison), just at then end of the old devoured thread. Any clarity there? (I'm also on the lookout to get a Destins candle - just missed all of Hallowmas. Here's hoping for a new option. I'd greatly appreciate either a PM, or a 'spoilered' reply, with how much stat loss there is for sending Destins candle, and recieving it. Also - why pass it on? (There must be a story reason, but the aim for stage 8 of SMEN is [spoiler] to gain all 7 candles [/spoiler] so to someone not in the know it seems odd.)) - Lastly, I managed to get a bunch of Proscribed material before the prices were jacked up - so if there are other testers for the new option needing 77 enigmas, I'm happy to compare notes, and try and give it a go, (saving for my ubergoat atm though). Just popping by - spoilers use square brackets [] rather than <> edited by streetfelineblue on 11/26/2013 -- Twitter: @streetfelineblu Blue's LiveJournal Blue's Echo Bazaar profile Blue's Night Circus diary Link to Ocelot's Enigma Ambition hint page; PM for clarification. No direct solutions provided.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 11/26/2013	The nightmarish Mercenary Contract (which is what the list is for) is separate from the enigma-based Hithe and Trithe. Getting Mercenaried will give you a huge chunk of nightmares if you lose but will deplete your reputation quality regardless. Hithing (but not Trithing) gives a scary amount of all 4 menaces. Hence the talk of murderjailing Alexis. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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mayexist Posts: 132 11/26/2013	Spacemarine9 wrote: Hithing (but not Trithing) gives a scary amount of all 4 menaces. Hence the talk of murderjailing Alexis. Fallen London may turn out to be worse for my vocabulary than tvtropes. Spacemarine9 wrote: It is worth pointing out that we could pool resources using Hithes to snowball enigmas; but there's a lot of menace attached, the card is infrequent and nobody knows how success and failure are calculated for it. I'm willing to pool resources. It shouldn't be that much of a problem if it's towards higher-level players, and the trithe option can be used by both parties, which would raise the frequency and avoid menaces. edited by mayexist on 11/26/2013 --
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 11/27/2013	St Cyriac is the new option on God's Editors. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 11/28/2013	Little The wrote: Someone by the name of Regas has just offered me St Destin's candle with the attached message "FALL DOWN A WELL," despite my repeated assertions that I don't want the thing. Not sure what to do now. This is awkward. Reject it. You've said you don't want it. They are a Seeker and only have themselves to blame. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/4/2013	Alexander, take as long as you need! It's your party. I would say more, but typing on a kindle is hard. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234 12/4/2013	If the storylet the echoed text comes from is changed, then so too does the echo. This is most easily observable from echoes at the sunlight event; if you echoed all the Bazaar's messages, they all appeared as the final one at the very end. Same with K&C's rules; echoing the rules once and then checking them every now and then was an easier way to observe changes than spending an action a day on them. -- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/4/2013	Well, I was bothering poor Alex over pm the instant he said it could be sent, and I will be able to obtain a Master's Blood fairly soon. When I get it, I will happily feed it to the well. On the flipside, I am a relatively young Seeker, and honestly I think the more prominent guys deserve a chance before me. Perhaps we should compile a list of hopefuls, reasons for priority, and items. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Laluzi Posts: 456 12/4/2013	I thought we were prioritizing people that had unique items to throw down the well, in interest of text. Well, Alexander's call. -- Feel free to ask if you need something! Uninterested in Trailing the Affluent Photographer. Mercer - an enigmatic and brutal individual. Frightfully strong. Has even more frightful manners.
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Aspeon Posts: 311 12/4/2013	NinjaComedian wrote: Someone can go through both threads and sort out the waiting list later on once you're back and we know how passing on the card actually works. That and what you need to get the most out of the island. If only one person can hold the card at a time, we don't want people to have to head out more than once. -- A raccooning will not be postponed indefinitely. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Aspeon
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/4/2013	So. To clear things up; The island allows you to obtain St Destin's Candle, St Cerise's Candle, and St Forthigan's Candle. However, all of this takes a very long time. I may be here in excess of a week. Also, they seem to have added nightmare and wounds gain to some of the options since I last used them, so anything you can send my way to reduce the nightmares is welcome, and indeed, necessary. The wounds I can handle for now, since I still have several outstanding invitations to help with those. In the grand scheme of things, I think I can spare a few actions to accept the calling card of anyone who can send me the Fogscape with Tentacles Christmas card. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/4/2013 -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 12/4/2013	As soon as Time the Healer arrives I will send you a Christmas card and hope it helps. Good for you for doing this, I hope that other Seekers will also manage to get there. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Inky Petrel Posts: 370 12/4/2013	While I have Master's Blood, I am afraid my quest for Mr Eaten's name will stop here, as I will never part with such a shiny and rare item, not even for a chance at a candle and furthering of my Search (what can I say, I'm a collector :p) I would wish my fellow Seekers well as you continue without me, but...there seems very little point. I shall simply wish you courage enough to endure. Thank you to those who have generously sent me damned and terrible things, I am in your debt. bows out edited by Inky Petrel on 12/4/2013 -- Re: Fallen London, please don't invite me to things or send me things, I'm only on occasionally, so you will waste your candle Thank you.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/4/2013	aaaa are you going to pass the card around still aaaaa a a aa a aaaa -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	Keep the Christmas cards waiting, for now. I want to save them for when I'm back on the island. I will be writing up a comprehensive post on all this once I've fully explored it, don't worry. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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Alexander Feld Posts: 348 12/5/2013	Blackleaf wrote: Alexander Feld wrote: For now. It is a cycle of gaining nothing, and losing nothing; only sometimes the nothing is something, and the something is nothing. ...I think I've drunk a bit too much Greyfields First Sporing. Also, St Destin's Candle plays hob with logic and grammar. edited by Alexander Feld on 12/5/2013 You do realise that theres gona be an angry mob outside your house demanding your calling card in a matter of days. My dear chap, whatever makes you think they're not here already? To ciel: You can get on without the items, but using the items incurs fewer menaces, takes fewer actions, and isn't a luck chance. Since, though, it looks like you'll lose anything you use, I don't think it makes much difference overall. -- I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words. I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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