• The Crooked Cross now gives Persuasive, Shadowy and Dreaded.
• The Glassman's Set of Cosmogone Spectacles now gives Persuasive, Dangerous and Bizarre.

Finally, as a responsible developer who cares for the game's community I can only entreat our players not to interpret item stat modifiers too literally. A bone harpoon is more Dangerous than a rifle because it is totally badass. Until Victorian technology invents a foolproof method of badassedness calibration, we must accept that at face value. But to start assessing calibres and sharpness and exactly how invisible a Thirsty Bombazine cummerbund make you on a dark night...well, that way lies madness. I implore you! Come back to us!

I very much refuse to spend Fate on content, that coerces me to spend money or face interacting with an unfun interface in a prolonged bout of card flipping.

Also, Having the shrine as home comfort makes no sense. Its a mythological shrine of praying to a saint of midnight and shadows but we are just gonna display it in the middle of our house? " Yeah this is my unholy shrine to the lovecraftian gods. " The Dilmun club description specificly says that " Its too secretive to display publicly as a club you are part of. " but worshipping dark saints? Sure why not!

Pelegin is the color of the deepest depths of the zee. So it's black. The flesh of the Thing That Which Makes Light In The Deeps has peligin-colored flesh, and consuming it turns your eyes the same color.

Also, looking at your list, cosmogone is the color of remembered sunlight and gant is the color that is left when all others are devoured. (It looks red in the picture, but it can only be read in darkness.)
edited by MidnightVoyager on 11/26/2013

Chris Gardiner wrote:

Please can we have mighty Mnjerfnir as an in-game item, I implore you.

I would be killed dead.


Actually properly seriously dead.

(The phone number was a daft throwaway joke with a reference that no longer makes sense. I've deleted it. Sorry, it never occurred to me anyone would take it seriously.)

I'm hoping for an occult society myself.

Lady Red wrote:

Chris Gardiner wrote:

Please can we have mighty Mnjerfnir as an in-game item, I implore you.

I would be killed dead.


Actually properly seriously dead.

Your noble sacrifice on this matter will enrich all our lives. Just saying.

--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lady~Red

The Crooked Cross now gives Persuasive, Shadowy and Dreaded. The Glassman's Set of Cosmogone Spectacles now gives Persuasive, Dangerous and Bizarre.

The nerf-hammer (mighty Mnjerfnir) has, alas, descended on the Shrine to St. Joshua. It now gives a more reasonable +3/+3/+1, in line with (but a significant improvement on) other Home Comforts. Apologies - that was my bad!

Finally, as a responsible developer who cares for the game's community I can only entreat our players not to interpret item stat modifiers too literally. A bone harpoon is more Dangerous than a rifle because it is totally badass. Until Victorian technology invents a foolproof method of badassedness calibration, we must accept that at face value. But to start assessing calibres and sharpness and exactly how invisible a Thirsty Bombazine cummerbund make you on a dark night...well, that way lies madness. I implore you! Come back to us! smile

Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:

No saying that there won't be an advanced Profession item for Midnighters with an even nicer Watchful boost!

Yeah but it seems more shadowy based now.

All mapped out, no. But some of the current top contenders:

A Chamber of Curiosities
A Zoological Collection
A Charitable Foundation
Financing a Trade Expedition
A Grand Research Project
The Event of the Season!
An Occult Society
Maintaining a Certain Style
An Exhibition of Fine Art
The Sting of the Century


...plus a number of Parabola-related activities that I can't talk about yet.


Chamber of Curiosities is basically Museum; Research Notes, among other items - including, as per Urthdigger, Zee-Ztories - are likely to end up being things you can use in Schemes.


This isn't a final or complete list. The biggest headache is fitting Schemes to the existing items in the economy, and to upcoming social enhancements, in a way that makes sense for both balance and flavour. But these are some of the things we're considering.

Blackleaf wrote:

So currently it seems more effective to have the memento unless you wanna spend 800 echoes and use two (( In my opinion much less cooler )) items than the memento.

Again, Just my personal opinion but a buff to +4 whould be appreciated. +12 was WAY too much but +4 is reasonable.

It's not really more effective, though, as long as nothing checks for Watchful and Shadowy at the same time (Yes there's Hell's Coursers, but it's probably straightforward regardless). Provided you can get a watch and an umbrella, and anyone in a position to get a tier four profession probably can, you're still going up by 2 watchful and 3 shadowy and getting a point of BDR that no one else can get. Admittedly, that point doesn't do much until the next tier of professions comes out, but it's nice.

Compare it to pretty much everyone else, though. Not even considering the persuasive professions (which are taking a net -4 persuasive unless they have an Irresistible Lady, and certainly aren't getting +9 anywhere else). Counting all non-fate gear except the Overgoat, the D/S Firearm -> List is a net gain of +2 dangerous and +3 shadowy while the D/W Lurker -> Harpoon is only net +1 dangerous and +3 watchful.

So basically, net +2 watchful, +3 shadowy, and +1 BDR is already a better deal than anyone else except the Licentiate in terms of primary stats, and you're getting a free point of BDR on top of it. It costs you a bit more to replace your Memento with bazaar gear than the other professions had to spend, but you weren't buying an Infernal Rifle that was already better than your previous profession item, and you don't need to replace anything with a Scuttering Squad. Ask anyone except maybe the Licentiate if they'd pay 400 echoes to get the same deal, and you'd probably have a lot of takers.

Flyte wrote:

Fhoenix, on my reading, the Imp isn't intimidated by your capacity for violence -- violence is something all too familiar, too prosaic, in the Neath -- but by a recognition of the feats of trickery and persuasion and plotting you might now be capable of, and perhaps the slightest of suspicions about the purposes you don't know you serve.

Does not matter what the Imp is afraid of: you bludgeoning him with a cross, you tricking him into charity, or you causing a seizure in him, since all imps are secretly weak at looking at crooked objects. Take Twelve-carat Diamon Ring. Wearing one openly does not help you in a fight, probably. Still it's a Dangerous and Persuasive item, same as Cross. Being threatening makes you Dangerous, not Shadowy.
But yeah, you can spin it any way you want.

MaskedGentleman wrote:

As I Mystic I would love to lead my own society, except I am no longer a Mystic! I am perhaps the first member of our forums to reach the rank of Glassman, and since the unsigned message has been in my hand for a week taunting me I couldn't be happier!

edited by MaskedGentleman on 11/22/2013

I might join you in Parabola one day friend!

But first i wish to finish the path of the Agen/Midnighter/Echoist. Both for dialogue purposes and for rping purposes.

Why was the old maximum timer 6-and-a-bit days long anyway? I'm sure there's some extremely specific and boring reason for it, which is exactly why I want to know.

The nomenclature is confusing, and different people (and wikis) use different numbering systems.

streetfelineblue wrote:

That's Very good! Only... Wait, does the last paragraph mean you lost all of your Notability?

Huh! I was sure that it did. But I just checked and I remain as notable as ever. I did not expect that.

I apologise for any slight on Slowcake and/or his representative.

My fellows, has anyone noticed the presence of a different color of the invisible spectrum unique to each starring player of the Bazaar? The violant of the correspondent, the cosmogone of the glassman, the gant of the licentiate, midnighters drenched in irrigo, we are forming a distinct array. I suspect the bazzar is creating something greater...is perhaps painting with the colors of our lives. This is too organized for coincidence.

It has not gone unnoticed. Irrigo, violant, apocyanic, pelegin, cosmogone, gant. What dread subterranbow do these form? What does the Admiralty know?

MidnightVoyager wrote:

It'd have almost been worth it for the title. But Middy could be nothing but a Monster-Hunter!

edited by MidnightVoyager on 11/25/2013

Well that bone harpoon would be a nifty addition to any Royal Beth's room *_* What plans do you have for Polly?

Uhm, I didn't notice any reference to pelegin. Where does it come from?

Anyway, considering this piece of information, we have:

Violant=Violet (Correspondent)
Irrigo=indigo (Midnighter)
Apocyanide=cyan(blue (Crooked Cross)
Gant=? Maybe green? (Licentiate)
Cosmogone=Orange? It seems orange-ish judging by the picture (Glassman)
Pelegin=? It would not surprise me if it was some kind of reddish tint (Monster-Hunter)

I may suppose this rainbow will have some use in the future - Christmas, perhaps? But I was also thinking about there being six advanced Professions endorsed by the Bazaar, each somehow linked to a colour of the Neath spectrum, itself corresponding to a colour of the visible spectrum of light.

If we manage to find all six correspondences, then the colour tat doesn't have a correspondent in the Neath spectrum should be the seventh colour... Something related to Mr. Eaten?

Does anyone have the slightest idea how to raise "A scholar of the correspondance" to 10? I'm too far in university to do so, and I really have no where I know to grind it.

Welp, serves me right for talking before researching.

Spacemarine9 wrote:

19 BDR... then you'll need 19MW to get 60% odds, around 15 for 50% and 25MW for 80%

e: read from wrong row
edited by Spacemarine9 on 11/29/2013

I'm sure this was written in some other place, but how exactly do you calculate the chance?

Ok, so I checked out the calculator. I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly, so...
I have notability 3, BDR 19. So that means that the difficulty is 19. I have 19 MW, that gives me 60% chance of success. The wiki calculator tells me that I'll need 31 MW to get 100%. Is that all correct?

Ladies and Gentlemen and those of Unspecified Gender!

I am pleased to announce the arrival of London's newest Correspondent - myself!

After three weeks of arguing with that man from Slowcake's demonstrating to him time and time again how well connected I am in this city - why even the Duchess has been known to attend my Salon! - I have finally persuaded him I am notable enough to advance my career.

Or at least I was. That awful man seems to have destroyed my entry in Slowcake's book. Perhaps as a petty revenge for losing the arguments to me. No matter. The Correspondence awaits!
edited by NinjaComedian on 12/4/2013

I'm afraid that's not true. There was no reduction this past week to make up for the double hit people got when the old Living Stories made their last rounds.

The implication is that it will be back to normally deducting 1 as of, well, this week.

Now all that is left to find out are the Tier 5 professions.
Here's the stuff ive gathered by myself.
Laocoon was a man in ancient greece who tried to warn the people of the trojan horse. However he was killed by two sea serpents.
Personaly i think Laocoonian will just be a "Serpent hunter" or a "Hunter of legendary beasts" rather than just... " beasts. "

The Echoist can be one of three things.
Either releated to the currency Echoes.
Or releated to Echoes as in the sound things.
Or perhaps releated to the Echoes of a secret.

Personaly im guessing for the 3rd one.

Strangler ive got a pretty good theory on.
I think we you are gonna become a notorious serial killer, simmilar to jack of smile. Thus the step from "Licentiate" to "Strangler". Perhaps "The strangler" will be your nickname as you go and compete against Jack in "Murder fun time on the streets of london!"

Unbishop seems to be some sort of cross between a bishop and an agent of hell. Time and lore will have to tell more about that.

Speaker whould be... well someone who speaks the language of the correspondence. The echoes between the stars. Will probably grant massive bonus to watchful and dangerous. Consiering how just a chuckle in correspondence is like a roar of thunder.

The Oneironaut whould be a scholar of dreams. Dedicated to studying Parabola.

And that's about it!
Now lets pray to Saint Joshua that the tiger doesn't tease us with Tier 6 professions that require 10 notability! (( Altough we whould still try and get it. Because we are all masochistic lunatics. Who like lore. Oh god help. ))

edited by Blackleaf on 11/19/2013

I do understand how people who like to play more jaded, cynical players of the Great Game might feel uneasy with that - even more if we consider that the Great Game conflicts with the Church, with the underlining message that a true piece of the Game should not let things like forgiveness and mercy stand in the way of a job well done :s

A reminder which may elucidate. The background to the higher-Notability professions rewards careful reading. They're not an attempt to recreate a standard career structure from an RPG: they serve an extremely specific narrative purpose.

Spacemarine9 wrote:

Why was the old maximum timer 6-and-a-bit days long anyway? I'm sure there's some extremely specific and boring reason for it, which is exactly why I want to know.

It was either

• (a) to compensate for the occasional bottlenecks
• (b) because I can't add up

I honestly can't remember which.

When I said I take no position on your dilemma, I'm afraid I meant that I don't remember whether the change was made in time to affect your current cycle. So you may or may not have a longer cycle this time.

I wonder if we can form some sort of occult mirror studying society. I discussed the idea of a group dedicated to the study of parabola and since Alexis hinted at both Parabola schemes and Occult society schemes i think we might just get what i suggested...

5 notability, my notability is "healed" tomorrow, and the damned card taunts me by not appearing. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sharp, but brittle. There's a reason usually weapons are made of metal instead of glass ^^

Joshua's a real-world legendary figure - I don't think he needs that much in-game introduction. As for it being a Home Comfort, well, there is precedent - look at the Discomfiting Photographs, or the Terrifying Weathercock. They may not be comforts in the sense that a well-stuffed armchair and a decanter of port are comforts, but they are fixtures in one's home that provide certain benefits and that one comes to rely upon, as much a comfort as is the artists' stool or the banker's counting-table.

By the way, how much CPs of Making Waves does it take away? I wouldn't like to use it just to find myself failing the Making Waves test because I didn't store enough points T.T

ALSO, important: I'm not a genius at math (euphemysm), so, does anybody know a way to calculate the required MW levels to do the test at straightforward diffficulty for RDB 21 at the various Notability levels?

Alexis Kennedy wrote:

LukeMcMillan wrote:

I want to be able to go to Zee or back to Flute Street and not feel like I have to stay in London

This, I'm afraid, is by design, and won't change even if it becomes less random. If you want to be important in London, you'll need to spend time in London. Recluses don't get notable so easily.

Ok, first off, no idea how to remove bullet formatting and stop it from happening on each new line. Anyway, on a flipside to the quoted bit, it'd be nice if we could do more cool things abroad to bring back to London. I don't want to be a recluse, but it would be nice to be that guy who's all "Hey, I just got back from the Presbyterate and you wouldn't believe what I brought back." I absolutely adored the scientific expeditions, Iron Republic, and Polythreme, but instead of feeling like an intrepid adventurer coming back home after a long trip, I feel like someone ducking back into work after taking an unscheduled week off

I dunno, it just feels sometimes like you lose quite a bit leaving London, for not a whole lot of gain.

Sorry Alexis but I did say I was being whiny and knew this was optional.

>Silas

His phone number is 0871 555 5797, if that helps.