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The Duke of Waltham
The Duke of Waltham
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1/28/2016
I've found a clue about Hookman House: "You speak to journalists, under the Hookman House rule, naturally." This is a reference to the Chatham House rule, though I cannot tell whether the name has anything to do with Chatham House itself (on St James's Square), or whether "Hookman" is somehow supposed to represent William Pitt.
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Diptych
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1/28/2016
I say, well spotted! I can find no immediate connection between Pitt/Chatham House and Hookmen of any sort, though - as my researches all seem to lead to nautical crime - I did come across a rather entertaining article about the notorious river pirates of the New York Hook Gang, and the Steamboat Squad which pursued them. Not immediately relevant, or even terribly well-sourced, but Neathy as hell!

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TheThirdPolice
TheThirdPolice
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2/21/2016
Going through my Echoes of a few exceptional stories. One discovery in particular should please the readers of this thread: you can predict a plot twist in Cut with Moonlight if you notice a character uses the surface name "Marble Arch" instead of the Fallen name "Hangman's Arch." That's quite a subtle hint!

Other mysteries:

Any guesses for "the razor shadows of Daughtry's Passage"?

There's also "Café Aubade" but the writer may have just liked the word (a song about lovers parting at dawn).

This list is missing "Lusitania Row" which another forum thread suggests is Piccadilly Arcade. (Piccadilly -> formerly Portugal -> contains Lusitania.)

Apparently Fallen Parliament has either been painted red or "drowned," with Moonish Parliament taking the other fate. Anyone know which is which?

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metasynthie
metasynthie
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2/21/2016
Given the House of Chimes, I'm going to guess that Fallen Parliament is rather more likely to have been drowned.

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TheThirdPolice
TheThirdPolice
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2/21/2016
Good point, metasynthie.

Lilac mentions the Panopticon Theatre. This must be the Alhambra Theatre, a building very near Covent Garden which used to house the Royal Panopticon of Science and Arts.

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TheThirdPolice
TheThirdPolice
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2/24/2016
There's a statue of a Muse in "Dragondinner Gardens". No luck finding a likely match in the PMSA NSRP.

EDIT: Dragondinner Gardens -> Princess Park. Groan. Might be an anachronism though.
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Akninirith Rhaagmini
Akninirith Rhaagmini
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9/9/2016
A line of inquiry that lies well beyond the pale of ignorance and entirely within the utter absence of useful knowledge. As another individual whose acquaintance with London is quite limited to its Fallen streets (excepting one visit long enough ago to be ignored), there seems to be some ambiguity concerning the interesting locale known as the Flit.

There is clearly a concentration in structures existing at the canopy level in the city's northeastern section. However, it sounds like there is some amount of infrastructure placed throughout the majority of London. Is the Flit something which existed in London prior to the fall in one form or another, or is it a feature only really introduced after the Fall's various changes? Also, to what extent has the Flit cropped up in the various other quarters of the city (excluding the southwest because Karakorum, of course)? The immediate vicinity of the Bazaar is probably free of stolen halyards strung between chimneys, but everything else about the Flit seems selectively vague by degrees.

Any true Londoners may now take potshots at the North American bloke implying the potential for infestations of roof-running vagrants in one of the most distinguished cities in Western civilization.

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Diptych
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9/9/2016
It seems the Flit exists everywhere there are rooftops - excepting, most likely, the Forgotten Quarter, as you observe. One Exceptional Story reveals that even the Bazaar itself has its share of particularly brave urchins among its spires.

As for whether Flittishness is a phenomenon limited to the Neath... I have read Victorian texts that describe great groups of homeless children taking shelter on rooftops, as well as in unused buildings, tunnels, and, well, everywhere they could. Sadly, I suspect that all Fallen London did was give these shelters A: a name, and B: a patron pagan deity.

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shylarah
shylarah
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9/19/2016
Something like the Flit has been common in books I read. Alleys and rooftops, /always/. <3

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-Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~
-Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her...
-Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love.
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-Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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TheLimey
TheLimey
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11/1/2016
Richard wrote:
Geography alert! If you have a Noman and the right Ambition, you get this:

"An annex of the Bazaar extends past the cathedral to the rusting shadows of Beazley's Gate"

Since we know the Bazaar is at Borough Market, the cathedral's just Southwark Cathedral - no mystery there.

Beazley's Gate? No idea. I don't know that part of London at all well, so there might be some obvious analogue. Or, fancifully, perhaps it's an homage to Joseph Bazalgette..


I wonder if it's a subtle nod to Michael Moorcock. He has a Bishop Beesley in the 'Jerry Cornelius' stories, which could make it Bishopsgate...

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Anne Auclair
Anne Auclair
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11/1/2016
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
It seems the Flit exists everywhere there are rooftops - excepting, most likely, the Forgotten Quarter, as you observe. One Exceptional Story reveals that even the Bazaar itself has its share of particularly brave urchins among its spires.

As for whether Flittishness is a phenomenon limited to the Neath... I have read Victorian texts that describe great groups of homeless children taking shelter on rooftops, as well as in unused buildings, tunnels, and, well, everywhere they could. Sadly, I suspect that all Fallen London did was give these shelters A: a name, and B: a patron pagan deity.

It also gave them an unearthly resilience so that a fall from great heights isn't necessarily fatal.

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A Dimness
A Dimness
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11/8/2016
Recently started a new alt and I'm moving through earlygame content now. There's mention of a Dead Monk's Bridge in the An Intruiging Rumour opportunity card.

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Meradine Heidenreich
Meradine Heidenreich
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11/8/2016
I assume that's Blackfriars.

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A Dimness
A Dimness
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11/13/2016
Hastings Place is mentioned in the Ragged Mendicant's storyline.

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Jamilah S. Wolf
Jamilah S. Wolf
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1/3/2017
Moloch is the name of a god of child sacrifice. °~° What implications could this have?

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IgnatuStone
IgnatuStone
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1/4/2017
It was established that Moloch street is a macabre reference to baker street of Sherlock Holmes fame. Children were burned in ovens.

(see page 3)
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Ragnar Degenhand
Ragnar Degenhand
Posts: 197

1/4/2017
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Hastings Place is mentioned in the Ragged Mendicant's storyline.


Does it indicate where? Because I'm thinking maybe in Holborn, where the bishop was sent to get strawberries while Hastings was being forcibly gathered to his ancestors (in RIII). Just a thought.

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Fadewalker
Fadewalker
Posts: 136

2/16/2017
I think All Crists's Church might be Christ Church, Spitalfields, It sits extremely close to the old Spitalfields market, and at the beginning of the game, we have a description of its relative location: "As the dirigible passes the spire of All Christs, you leap to safety. You clamber down into the shadows of Spite, avoiding the nests of bats and ravens."

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Barse
Barse
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2/16/2017
I found a named street not on these lists anywhere (unless my ctrl+F skills are sorely lacking) - from the text on An Encounter at the Feast under the Monster-Hunting Academic:

"The lady in the sensible green dress and the sensible black shoes rounds the corner of Lacewhisper Street at foolhardy speed."

I haven't recruited her, so I don't know if that text might provide any hints as to where in London the street is, but I thought I'd flag it anyway!

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a shadowy spider
a shadowy spider
Posts: 4

2/19/2017
Barselaar wrote:
I found a named street not on these lists anywhere (unless my ctrl+F skills are sorely lacking) - from the text on An Encounter at the Feast under the Monster-Hunting Academic:

"The lady in the sensible green dress and the sensible black shoes rounds the corner of Lacewhisper Street at foolhardy speed."

I haven't recruited her, so I don't know if that text might provide any hints as to where in London the street is, but I thought I'd flag it anyway!


I don't want to post any spoilers, but my basis for the location of Lacewhisper Street can be found by Googling it.

I assume from the text I've mentioned that it's in or near Spite. If we assume that Spite is Spitalfields, my first thought was Fashion Street.

The way I interpret it is that it's past Spite, however, and in that case my best guess is Curtain Road. It's about a 10-15 min. walk away from Spitalfields Market.
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