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Ryyme Posts: 5 7/9/2014	Corentin Os wrote: Ria Byss wrote: the werks of Mervyn Peake. the Titus Groan books especially. I think that the Failbetter guys have cited him as an influence. mandatory! edited by Ria Byss on 4/7/2012 I could not agree more. Titus Groan and Gormenghast are two of my all-time favourite books; Mervyn Peake's writing is like nothing else, the language is exquisite. I'm always saddened by how few people have read them, even among bibliophiles. The world contained in these books is even stranger, darker, and moodier than Fallen London; such a host of wicked, sublime characters! Such delicious description! Forgotten acres of castle rooms, ridiculous poetry, odd traditions, murder, deceit, seduction, and insanity, these books have it all. Sorry to disagree with the two of you, but I just finished Titus Groan last week, after hearing so much raving about it. I’d grant it a 1 ½ stars out of 5. It took me several months to get through this book (and this coming from a guy who read Dostoevsky's “The Idiot”). I would go several days without even touching the book, forgetting I even had it and can’t recall the last time I had such animosity towards a book. The first 100+ pages there is absolutely no plot other than establishing the many characters in the story, none of whom I ever cared about. Caution: This is not a book for everyone. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ryyme
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Ryyme Posts: 5 7/9/2014	Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but Fallen London seems very apt towards the Mike Mignollia Books of the Drowned City, e.g. joe Golem series. They are easy and quick reads. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ryyme
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Ridiculus Undarke Posts: 48 7/13/2014	Karaeir wrote: Yesterday I started reading American Gods by Neil Gaiman, and while it's not exactly reminiscent of Fallen London there was this one fragment of it that had me staring at the page for a few minutes: "Go," said Wednesday, his voice a reasurring growl. "All is well, and all is well, and all shall be well." But *T.S.Elliot (in Little Gidding)* wrote: A symbol perfected in death. And all shall be well and All manner of things shall be well By the purification of the motive In the ground of our beseeching. I think we can safely say that's the source of the famous saying from FL, and not Julian of Norwich whom Elliot took it from. Gaiman was always close to FL in... atmosphere? style? tone? approach to history and fantasy? I can't figure out what it is, but they indeed feel like literary cousins. And the reason for this is that they come from the same parents, obviously (Chesterton, for example, as one can see from the Gaiman quote above). Ryyme wrote: Sorry to disagree with the two of you, but I just finished Titus Groan last week, after hearing so much raving about it. I’d grant it a 1 ½ stars out of 5. It took me several months to get through this book (and this coming from a guy who read Dostoevsky's “The Idiot”). I would go several days without even touching the book, forgetting I even had it and can’t recall the last time I had such animosity towards a book. The first 100+ pages there is absolutely no plot other than establishing the many characters in the story, none of whom I ever cared about. Caution: This is not a book for everyone. Dostoyevsky is easy to read, Peake isn't. Obviously he isn't "for everyone", nor he is meant to be. He was like a painter who used words instead of colours and strokes (and indeed he was one). But that doesn't make him less worthy by default. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ridiculus
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Korianne Finch Posts: 5 7/17/2014	If you wouldn't mind something semi-modern day, the first thing that came to mind was Simon R. Green's Nightside series. 13 books, but they go quickly, and they're wonderfully bizarre for urban fantasy. -- Ms. Korianne Finch, Retrieval Expert, Information Broker, Detective.
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BelleauWoodsman Posts: 4 7/21/2014	Not so reminiscent of Fallen London, but relevant: The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk is worth checking out if you find the espionage side of Fallen London to be your thing. It's a (sort of narrative) history of the real life "Great Game" between England and Russia. edited by BelleauWoodsman on 7/21/2014
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The Dark Gentleman Posts: 188 7/21/2014	I was recently gifted with a copy of The Bookman by Lavie Tidhar. The tone is very much in keeping with Fallen London. Dirigibles, secret revolutionaries, strange and unusual rulers, literary elements (obviously), and the great question of death (how don't some die, how to bring others back, etc.) Also, there are whales in the Thames. Hurrah for whales. edited by The Dark Gentleman on 7/21/2014 -- The Dark Gentleman~ Social actions welcome. Menace reductions upon request. Newspaper interviews by appointment. Falconry by invitation only. "THE HOURS FEAR THE NAMES. THE NAMES FEAR THE LONG. THE LONG FEAR THE KNOW. ALL FEAR THE HOURS."
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Felix Merivel Posts: 20 12/16/2014	A Study in Emerald - another Neil Gaiman mention, not a book but a short story. Free for download from his website. And the graphic lay-out by Jouni Koponen is brilliant. -- Felix Merivel, an absent-minded soulless bastard. Frequent lodger in New Newgate. All manner of social interactions welcome. Even cats. I do so love cats. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/FelixMerivel
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Polycarp Posts: 16 12/17/2014	I think "In Viriconium" and "Viriconium Nights", from M.John Harrison's Viriconium series, would be startlingly familiar to any resident of Fallen London. Those are much the best books in the series (the earlier ones are much less interesting). Nail Gaiman wrote a very good review of his work: http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2012/01/of-introductions-and-viriconium.html And then, no longer baroque, M. John Harrison’s prose became transparent, but it was a treacherous transparency. Like its predecessors, In Viriconium is a novel about a hero attempting to rescue his princess, a tale of a dwarf, an inventor and a threatened city, but now the huge canvas of the first book has become a small and personal tale of heartbreak and of secrets and of memory. The gods of the novel are loutish and unknowable, our hero barely understands the nature of the story he finds himself in. It feels like it has come closer to home than the previous stories – the disillusion and decay that was pupating in the earlier stories has now emerged in full, like a butterfly, or a metal bird, freed from its chrysalis. The short stories which weave around the three novels are stories about escapes, normally failed escapes. They are about power and politics, about language and the underlying structure of reality, and they are about art. They are as hard to hold as water, as evanescent as a shower of sparks, as permanent and as natural as rock formations. The Viriconium stories and novels cover such aspects of life as gardening, anatomy, mathematics, and geometry, card games, flying contraptions, and labyrinths. Also, they talk about art. edited by Polycarp on 12/17/2014 -- Polycarp: Are your ears burning? Maybe I can help.
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Rook Crofton Posts: 83 12/17/2014	BelleauWoodsman wrote: Not so reminiscent of Fallen London, but relevant: The Great Game by Peter Hopkirk is worth checking out if you find the espionage side of Fallen London to be your thing. It's a (sort of narrative) history of the real life "Great Game" between England and Russia. Seconding, and recommending Hopkirk's Foreign Devils on the Silk Road even more! The author synthesized the travel accounts of archaeologists from colonial powers as they scrambled to navigate, map, and claim manuscripts and artifacts from Central Asia (~1890s-1930s). There's the discovery of manuscripts hidden in a secret room behind a plastered-up wall in a desert monastery, and the plundering of medieval Chinese murals from grotto-temples, all under the shadow of the Great Game. The tone is conversational, like an after-dinner chat by the fireplace, but the content is rigourous enough that this was used as a textbook in my undergraduate class on the Silk Road. Very readable (and picaresque) history! -- Rook Crofton: dreamer, antiquarian, mystic Now a Scarlet Saint. Happy to send anyone an invite to the Temple Club.
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Morbs Beauchene Posts: 7 3/6/2015	The Haunting of Alaizabel Cray by Chris Wooding. It's about 'wytch-hunters' in an au london. Also by Chris Wooding is Storm Thief wherein 'probability storms' can change everything from the colour of your lipstick to the number of limbs you have. It's set in a grungy, grimy, not-quite steam-punk city. If it's fantastical archipelagos and places where the sun never shines that tickle your fancy you might also like (my favourite books of all time), Clive Barker's Abarat series. The basic premise of Abarat is that each island represents and hour of the day you have twelve islands where it's always daytime and twelve where it's always night. Try and get the overpriced and out of print hardcover versions if you can. They're the only editions with illustrations and the illustrations are a big part of the experience (and barker is a brilliant artist). I think someone mentioned The Clockwork Century already? but those too! (though the narrative really drags in some places) (these are all y/a books but what can I say? I'm a tiny child in an over-sized body!) -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Morbs~Beauchene
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Marianne Anders Posts: 127 4/7/2015	I just finished reading Invisible Cities, which was very evocative of Sunless Sea. and an interesting read, to boot. -- Not all who wander are lost. Sometimes, they are very lost. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Marianne~Anders
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GabrielleBenoit Posts: 4 4/23/2015	Not sure if anyone has metioned it befor ebut the Johannes Cabal series are really really similar in writing and with a similar athmosphere. The books currently in the series are (in order): Johannes Cabal the Necromancer Johannes Cabal the Detective Johannes Cabal and the Fear Institute (this one actually has a warning very similar to the ones FL gives at the beginning) The Brothers Cabal -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Gabrielle~Benoit send anything, it's fine =D
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Rook Crofton Posts: 83 4/28/2015	Marianne Anders wrote: I just finished reading Invisible Cities, which was very evocative of Sunless Sea. and an interesting read, to boot. I love Invisible Cities too, and I think it's one of the inspirations for Fallen London as well. -- Rook Crofton: dreamer, antiquarian, mystic Now a Scarlet Saint. Happy to send anyone an invite to the Temple Club.
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Lord Hoot Posts: 47 6/14/2015	More reminiscent of Sunless Sea, but here's one I brought up on Reddit: Before A Game of Thrones George RR Martin wrote a supernatural horror novel called Fevre Dream set aboard a Mississippi steamboat in the mid-19th century. It's excellent, full of darkness and melancholy and technical detail about steamships of the era. The protagonist could easily be a character from Sunless Sea. edited by Lord Hoot on 6/14/2015
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fortluna Posts: 306 6/21/2015	Frances Hardinge's Cuckoo Song should satisfy anyone who was missing the option to devour everything in sight. Eventually —spoilers -- the main character starts to slide feebly protesting porcelain dolls (along with her clothes, her trinkets, and her sister, nearly) down her gullet. (all this in a kids' book!) Johannes Cabal would be a perfect fit for irreverent Fallen London, if only for the things he does to devils and the oblong tentacular horrors. I was also looking through Invisible Cities again and I’d always assumed that TRAVELLER RETURNING was a direct reference, as "futures not achieved are only branches of the past”. Now I have no idea what Salt wants, if it’s not a traveller who is always returning to rediscover possible pasts, since without it—is Salt only returning to threaten the white? ((sorry I’m so bad at reading comprehension)) edited by fortluna on 6/21/2015
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Snotra Posts: 67 7/18/2015	Is there a thread like this for music? Either way, I do recommend Emilie Autumn. Lots of violins and harpsicords. 'Marry Me' and 'Thank God I'm Pretty' split my seams. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Snotra
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Lady Taimi Felix Posts: 202 7/18/2015	Snotra wrote: Is there a thread like this for music? There is! http://community.failbettergames.com/topic230-radio-neath--echo-bazaar-soundtracks.aspx -- Lady Taimi Felix: Devoted Wife. Invisible Eminence. Patron of the Shadowy Arts. Monster Hunter. Lady of Adventure. Exceptionally Lethal. Loves a Good Chat over Coffee.
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Snotra Posts: 67 7/18/2015	Lady Taimi Felix wrote: Snotra wrote: Is there a thread like this for music? There is! http://community.failbettergames.com/topic230-radio-neath--echo-bazaar-soundtracks.aspx Cheers, I'll share it there too. Her work is worth sharing in any venue. edited by Snotra on 7/18/2015 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Snotra
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Ren Posts: 11 7/22/2015	Reading through this thread, and being highly impressed by some of the reccomendations, Niel Gaiman, Terry Pratchett, Mark Gatiss, China Mieville and of course Mark Z. Danielewski's House of Leaves (how amazing that novel is...just the mention of it never fails to send shivers throughout my body), I began to compile the list for my own future use, but soon realised this list may be of help for others... Neil Gaiman -Neverwhere -American Gods -A Study in Emerald -(with Terry Pratchet) Good Omens Terry Pratchet -Watchmen series Gordon Dahlquist -Glass books of the Dream Eaters S.M. Peters -Whitechapel Gods Mervyn Peake -Titus Groan -Gormenghast Gail Carriger -The Parasol Protectorate: Soulless (1), Changeless (2), Blameless (3), Heartless (4), & Timeless (5) Brian Selznick -The Invention of Hugo Cabret: A Novel in Words and Pictures China Mieville -Perdido Street Station Jeff Vandermeer -City of Saints and Madmen Jay Lake -Trial of Flowers Stephen Hunt -Jackelian books: Court of the Air, Kingdom Beyond the Waves, Rise of the Iron Moon, Secrets of the Fire Sea Tim Powers -The Anubis Gates Mark Z. Danielewski -House of Leaves Ted Naifeh -Courtney Crumrin and The Twilight Kingdom Holly Black (no specific title) Shaun Tan -The Arrival Laura Powell -The Game of Triumphs Dmitry Glukhovsky -Metro 2033 Kim Newman -Anno Dracula Catherynne M. Valente -Palimpsest Susanna Clarke -Johnathan Strange & Mr Norrell Alan Moore -From Hell Barbara Hambly -Those who Hunt the Night Phil Foglio -Girl Genius Frederic Morton -Rotschilds Margery Allingham -Campion series M.John Harrison -In Viriconium -Viriconium Nights Peter Hopkirk -Foreign Devils on the Silk Road -The Great Game Chris Wooding -Haunting of Alaizabel Cray -Storm Thief H. P. Lovecraft -Beyond the Wall of Sleep Jonathan Stroud -Bartimaeus Sequence Clive Barker -Abarat series Cherie Priestt -The Clockwork Century Mark Gatiss -The Vesuvius Club Italo Calvino -Invisible Cities Jonathan L. Howard -Johannes Cabal the Necromancer -Johannes Cabal the Detective -Johannes Cabal and the Fear Institute -The Brothers Cabal George RR Martin -Fevre Dream Frances Hardinge -Cuckoo Song Jonathan Barnes -The Somnambulist and The Domino Men Jacques Tardi -(no specific titles) Dave Morris and Leo Hartas -Mirabilis: Year of Wonders Tony Ballantyne -Dream London Mike Mignollia -Books of the Drowned City Simon R. Green -Nightside series Lavie Tidhar -The Bookman edited by Ren on 7/22/2015 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Loren~Wimshurst
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steamwork Posts: 27 7/23/2015	I am here to recommend the Parasol Protectorate series featuring... -Vampires that don't sparkle -A great deal of LGBT diversity -One vampire in particular who while fabulously and openly gay still kicks ass,is incredibly clever,and of great importance -Werewolves that wear cravats as well as shirts (though sometimes said cravat will be in disarry) -A witty,stubborn,intelligent woman who can hold her own and also render the immortal mortal via touch -Witty writing -Romance of the intelligent variety -Delightful gadgets -Well written characters Edit: Moved to the reading recommendations thread. - Babel edited by babelfishwars on 7/23/2015 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/steamwork
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