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Strong-Backed Labor: Too hard to get?
 GG Crono Posts: 24
4/3/2012
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Strong-Backed Labor is unique among many of the things acquirable from the Bazaar Side-Streets in that you often require a lot of it at once. Without giving too much away, there are some storylets that require anywhere from six to as many as twelve of them.
However, the only way to acquire these is a lengthy process requiring a buildup of Dramatic Tension, and even then, only one at a time. Compare this to many of the high-end things you can create several of in one go by combining items.
But perhaps it's just me. What I'm wondering is this: Should there be easier ways to acquire Strong-Backed Labor? edited by GG Crono on 4/3/2012 edited by GG Crono on 4/3/2012
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 Commiesalami Posts: 4
4/3/2012
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Abstract: By stealing from couriers in spite you can get strong backed labor at approx. 19 - 21 actions per order, you milage may vary due to bulk item conversion ratios and rare sucess on the 'stealing from couriers' storylet
Strong backed labor is actually some of the easiest items to get. Assuming 1:1 pence item converstion rations (in actuality the bulk conversions give you better ratios):
(15 Comprimising documents * 50 pence) + (50 Intruiging gossip * 20 pence) = 17.5 Echos in worth of stolen correspondence. Which you can get by ambusing couriers in spite at the rate of 20 per action (40 SC from a 2 action storylet, ignoring the rare success that gets you a love story). Calculating actions quickly is a little difficult due to the odd numbers and remainders but the more strong-backed labors you are making at once the more efficent things get. Coming down to about 17 actions per SBL peak efficiency (using fractional actions).
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 Early Posts: 196
4/4/2012
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
This isn't an accident. If it were easy to get it wouldn't be worth having. 34 actions for Strong Backed labour isn't all that much. Buckle down and do the work.
It's more that you need 34 actions... multiplied by as much as ten or more to get the stuff. Personally, I only manage to spend about 60 actions per day. That can come out to almost a week of grinding nothing but Wilmot's End for a single story, and I can probably repeat just about every line of text in that area from memory by now. Is it a serious ordeal? No, but it's incredibly boring, and that's not an ideal quality for a game to have. Fortunately, as mentioned, robbing couriers is faster. edited by Early on 4/4/2012
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Early
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 TheThirdPolice Posts: 609
4/7/2012
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Using the numbers people have posted here, getting the basalt gymnasium takes 34*12=408 actions to get the labour via wilmot end, plus at least 12 or so to get the gym. So you're spending 420 actions before you can even start getting rostygold.
Grinding at Watchmaker's Hill gets you 110 rostygold / action. In order for the gym to make up for its own cost, you'd need to use the opportunity card 1,575 times.
I didn't calculate the 34 actions number myself so I can't vouch for it, but my calculations could be off by an order of magnitude and the gym would still be a terrible waste of time.
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