Maurna Frost
Posts: 246
12/22/2011
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I don't have much too add, I am truly to new and still progressing. But I too took the Nemesis storyline, if you are thinking of switching or restart... Red Honey, please don't tell anyone I told you this, is a delight for the senses and should be experienced if given the opportunity.
~MF
A Lady with unique taste
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I greatly enjoy meeting delicious new friends and participating in deliciously exciting new adventures! Please feel free to drop a card to meet for dinner, exchange favors, give an interview, or any other activity that comes to mind. I DO particpate in exchanges requiring Fate, BUT you must contact me first; twitter, facebook, or here on the forums via PM.
Note: I am currently exchanging parcels with a large number of dear friends and my parcel opportunities are rare. I am always willing to exchange but your rate of return may be rather slow. To find others to exchange with I recommend the Starveling list.
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Eliza Cromlech
Posts: 12
12/23/2011
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I also have the Heart's Desire Ambition, and I have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. I find that as I've pursued it further and gotten more and more entangled in what is obviously a very old and very complicated tradition, it parallels nicely with my character's ever-growing obsession with what lies at the heart (no pun intended) of the Bazaar itself. I was also pleased to find that it involves the Manager, who is one of my favorite characters in the game. 
I do admit, however, to a strong curiosity about the other Ambitions, since the information they provide does seem to be exclusive to each one. At the same time, I don't really want to spoil myself in case I get the opportunity, at some point in the future, to pursue one of the other Ambitions once I'm done with my current one. :3
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Mr. James Rayner
Posts: 12
12/23/2011
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For those interested in the Hearts Desire (And who would not be?)
- Becoming an Exceptional Friend can ease your way to the aquisition of First City coins, should The Lady be on your side in such matters.
- i would highly recommend you prepare yourself for a touch of frusteration - Dealing with some of the more unique characters of Fallen London can be both burden and a delight.
- Finally, I would expect though the state of your soul will come up, Think far more about the state of your nightmares - As it seems to be that those who will soon be involved in the game will require you to master your dreams as well as your waking moments.
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pinstripeowl
Posts: 53
12/23/2011
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The ambitions are probably the only other reason I'd develop an alt chara, but that's mainly just curiosity as I do really love Heart's Desire. They all seem to be very well written, with twists and turns and I did appreciate how it was pretty much the only thing you could read your past steps on way back when before the journal put things in such nice order. I am intrigued by the whole place in the heart thing that I think it's Nemesis(?) gets. A friend showed me the options and it was lovely - much like the place Memories of light take you.
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
12/27/2011
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I highly recommend the Nemesis storyline - someone above me has already listed the secrets it's involved in. Though as someone who chose to pursue the murderer of my wife, I do find it irritating to keep drawing cards of people who want to seduce me.
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Lover of Flawed Souls
And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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Magnus Asbjorn
Posts: 2
12/28/2011
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I quite enjoy the Heart's Desire story line right up the point where I had to 77 coins at which time my pursuit of it ground to a halt as I work towards getting the coins.
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streetfelineblue
Posts: 1459
12/28/2011
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Magnus Asbjorn wrote:
I quite enjoy the Heart's Desire story line right up the point where I had to 77 coins at which time my pursuit of it ground to a halt as I work towards getting the coins.
I know exactly how you feel T.T XD
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Diptych
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Posts: 3493
12/31/2011
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Pursuing Light Fingers means cracking open the casket of the Bazaar's worst secrets and breathing heavily of the putrescence within. It carries a great deal of personal risk, with the barest prospect of reward. Well worth it.
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Andrey Shmarev
Posts: 35
12/31/2011
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Pursuing Light Fingers means cracking open the casket of the Bazaar's worst secrets and breathing heavily of the putrescence within. It carries a great deal of personal risk, with the barest prospect of reward. Well worth it.
A diamond the size of a pig is well worth making half of Fallen London's pupeteers your enemies indeed.
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Early
Posts: 196
12/31/2011
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Andrey Shmareva wrote:
Pursuing Light Fingers means cracking open the casket of the Bazaar's worst secrets and breathing heavily of the putrescence within. It carries a great deal of personal risk, with the barest prospect of reward. Well worth it.
A diamond the size of a pig is well worth making half of Fallen London's pupeteers your enemies indeed.
Yes, but how reliable of a prospect is that?
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FogChicken1
Posts: 29
1/1/2012
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Nemesis will teach you all about what goes on in the Palace cellars that is not fit for polite conversation.
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Andrey Shmarev
Posts: 35
1/1/2012
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Early wrote:
Andrey Shmareva wrote:
Pursuing Light Fingers means cracking open the casket of the Bazaar's worst secrets and breathing heavily of the putrescence within. It carries a great deal of personal risk, with the barest prospect of reward. Well worth it.
A diamond the size of a pig is well worth making half of Fallen London's pupeteers your enemies indeed.
Yes, but how reliable of a prospect is that?
In this line of business there is one certainty : when one half is mad , the other one is pleased. And a pleased power can be very grateful.
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Patrick Reding
Posts: 440
1/1/2012
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Pursuing Light Fingers means cracking open the casket of the Bazaar's worst secrets and breathing heavily of the putrescence within. It carries a great deal of personal risk, with the barest prospect of reward. Well worth it.
Although if I remember my rumours correctly, you subsequently end up locked in said casket.
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streetfelineblue
Posts: 1459
1/2/2012
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I may stand corrected, but I've got the feeling that NONE of the Ambitions is free from high risks. The bright side is that for what is known, no kind of damage in the Neath is irreparable, though it may cost an abundant supply of time, Actions and/ or Echoes to recover ^^
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Passionario
Posts: 777
1/7/2012
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Speaking of Ambitions, was "Enigma" always a choice at Mr. Chimes' doorstep, or is it a new teaser?
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Joe Freeland
Posts: 3
1/8/2012
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I have pursued light fingers from the beginning and have enjoyed it throughout. Exploring one of London's 7 Labyrinths, Finding where the Masters put their personal prisoners, and crossing Mr. Fire's path has all been quite fun. I just wonder what the hell Clarabell is pregnant with.
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Amalgamate
Posts: 435
1/9/2012
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Passionario wrote:
Speaking of Ambitions, was "Enigma" always a choice at Mr. Chimes' doorstep, or is it a new teaser?
Enigma was always a choice. I don't think anybody knows how to get to it though.
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Social invitations of all kinds welcome, especially games of chess and deadly sparring!
Also happy to help with nightmares, send sips of Cider, and plant battle.
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streetfelineblue
Posts: 1459
1/17/2012
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I went for a thoroughly spoilery excursion on Ambitions other than mine, and, while realizing how good and well written all of them were, I was positively stricken with Light Fingers. Mysterious, dangerous, and focusing on the darker sides of the city, it reminded me very much of the novels by Carlos Ruiz Zafòn. I think all in all it's the one I liked the best so far. Though currently I would put Heart's Desire a close second, and after all it's the only one I didn't want to spoil, so I'm still in the dark about key elements of it (first of all, the Topsy King's identity, though somewhere I spoiled myself his real name). The main problem is that while the Topsy King will probably reveal himself as an interesting character after the discovery (hints of it are already scattered around level 4 of his part of Ambition), knowing that the next one will be none other than the manager of the Bethlehem Hotel means that I can hardly wait to finish up the Topsy-King's storyline to arrive to him :3
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Scarlet Fenwick
Posts: 56
1/20/2012
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My friends - should you require assistance in gathering your coins, please do not hesitate to send word. I do love to roam the Museum...
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streetfelineblue
Posts: 1459
2/22/2012
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First of all: I realize I wrote a very long and very critical post here. The first thing I want to be clear is that I appreciate the work of EBZ writers and I like the game very much; but I wanted to express my opinions and impressions about the ambition I chose to pursue, and that has quite disappointed me. I don't know if there's any point in all this, but I felt like doing it. Please forgive the occasionally rash tones.
OK, I've come to level 18 in the Topsy King part of Heart's Desire ambition, and I have to say that, much to my chagrin, I have to agree with Wieland - I didn't find it very interesting  I like very much the basic idea - a bunch of diverse gentleman setting up an incredibly high stakes game - and the beginning seemed very promising, with the stark contrast between gentlemanly persuasion and gritty investigations - I loved the part in the Forgotten Quarter, both mysterious and bizarre, with the twist of the monkey being much more a key element than it seemed: it seemed like Edgar Allan Poe meeting the Monty Python  But then, the Bishop of St Fiacre part was just plain boring, although luckily quick; and while I was expecting much from the Topsy King and the Manager of the Royal Beth, till now I feel quite disappointed.
In part it's because I often feel that obstacles in this ambition are far from logical, only put there because you HAVE to put tests in an ambition. Let me explain - the other ambitions deal with people who actually work to hinder your progress, so it's just natural for you to try and overcome them. But Heart's Desire? It deals with people that have - or SHOULD have - a common goal; so you would expect them to be more collaborative, instead of requiring great deals of persuasion and/or bribery. I mean, was it really necessary for the Bishop to ask a bribe for the names of the other players he knew? If he really WAS interested in the game (and it's a potentially VERY rewarding game; the stakes are much higher than some Foxfire Candles) he should have been more eager to help, in my opinion. Or, at the opposite, if he had any reason not to tell (maybe to avoid that a dangerous contestant -you- could enter the game?), it shouldn't have been so easy to bribe him! And the same can be said for the Manager: I can't understand if they're actually interested in the Marvellous, sure they don't SHOW much interest.
I also find the exact dynamics of the game to be far from clear and logical. There's the problem of the seven players: no more, no less, and it seems they are even decided in advance, at the point that when one of them (the Topsy King) refuses to play he can't be substituted, he has to be persuaded at all costs! But at the same time, none of the players seem to be much surprised by the arrival of a new one -you- maybe there were just six players? How lucky! (and improbable). It would have been different if the players were already seven, so you had to carve your position in the game by forcing or convincing one to retire... Instead, here you are, spending most of the time finding a way to convince one of them, who ABSOLUTELY doesn't want to play, to play anyway. And his sister wants that too... He saw his brother losing his sanity at this game, and what's her solution? Make him play AGAIN (so he'll maybe lose something else?), and not just that: she enlists the help of you, one of the other players, to convince him, not considering that you'll be his adversary if the game takes place!
I don't really agree with the method to help the Topsy King to regain sanity. He had this ambition of producing an innovative opera, all played with glass instruments... It was probably his very own Heart's Desire. And you should stage it instead? I think at that point, his reaction would be "All right, I'm happy now - I don't need the Marvellous anymore. After all, it already cost me my sanity once". Am I wrong? Not to mention the fact that I find it very cruel to force him to play when he's so blatantly happy living in the Flit. I say, why not just leaving him there and finding another player?
But the thing I feel lacking the most is any kind of plot whatsoever. Until now, it seems that the only thing you have to do is to go talk to the various players and convince them to play - nothing more. There's no real revelation about any dark secret of Fallen London (like Gaoler's Honey for Nemesis, the Vake for Bag a Legend or the Orphanage for Light Fingers): despite touching such interesting matters like the Correspondence and the Forgotten Quarter, nothing of importance is revealed. I was hoping being the Topsy King a former Scholar of the Correspondence, to be treated to some unexpected revelation, but nope T.T And the Manager of the Royal Beth, while superficially looking creepy and mysterious, turns out to be just petty and obnoxious IMO. You go there asking for advice (and I wonder why you couldn't do that earlier; you already knew he was a Marveller too), and he practically answers "yeah, I already know everything. But I won't tell you, because my colleagues wouldn't approve if they were to know I gave you information for free". I mean, gee, do you want to play or not? Because if that's all your interest, maybe you shouldn't be a Marveller at all! I thought somebody eager to bet his own soul and sanity on a game would be a SLIGHTLY bit more involved T.T Just the same for the description of the fateful game in which the Topsy King lost his sanity: it would have been the chance to put an accurate description of the Marvellous, instead it's only barely detailed in its outcome, and that's all.
Currently I'm very challenged between waiting for further developments, or amassing Fate enough to change Ambition. I wouldn't like to change - my character has been tailored on his Persuasive/Watchful build - but if the future developments of this ambition kee pfollowing this line, I'm afraid it won't turn out better than plainly boring at best. What I really would like to see in it is some kind of twist, a plot, something actually happening; say, I don't know, someone trying to sabotage the game (for example, simultaneously stealing all the First City Coins from the Marvellers), forcing the players to find out who he is and how to regain control of the game. Maybe some murders? (For instance, i think that both the Bishop and Cora Bagley don't appear outside of the Ambition. If something should *cough* happen to them, it wouldn't disrupt much the Neath's equilibrium). Possibly, the chance to learn something about some mysteries of Fallen London... Something more than just going to all of the players to convince them to do something they already should be willing to do!
Again, please forgive me for this long rant. I didn't want to sound aggressive or offensive; only, in the little time I played, i came to like this game very much, and I wanted to give my opinion on a part of it that I think needs some serious calibration to become really entertaining. This without denying the skill of the EBZ team, that is constantly providing a solid, interesting game, always improving it.
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