Dave
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3/20/2012
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travellersside wrote:
Perhaps the difference between a clothes-colony and a clothes-legion is whether you are in control or they are?
That is a fascinating possibility. I will have to pay more attention when one word or the other is used in the text in the future.
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Branden Linton
Posts: 391
3/20/2012
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I still think the only creepy thing I read about the Polythreme is how soul crushing despair can be there. The one storylet about the clayman who was going to cut off hi own arm was particularly creepy.
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travellersside
Posts: 288
3/20/2012
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Everything that I had previously heard about Polythreme was just how hellish it was - all tortured souls and agony. Visiting it... it's mostly fluffy and bright and cheerful. Sure, there's some unhappiness, but compared to London - this is Disney's castle of Beauty and the Beast.
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ladymadsci
Posts: 105
3/21/2012
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I have finished the 'Investigating' main track for Polythreme (choosing to send a report to the Masters of the Bazaar). I was met thusly:
Distant gratitude
Perhaps now, at your lodgings in London, a spectacularly generous reward awaits you. Best not to hold your breath, though.
I also came away with some Memories of Distant Shores. Is this a hint, do you think?
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travellersside
Posts: 288
3/21/2012
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*cough* 'Perhaps' something is waiting for you. Perhaps not. I wouldn't count on it. The Masters are notoriously unwilling to part with anything.
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Diptych
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3/21/2012
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travellersside wrote:
Everything that I had previously heard about Polythreme was just how hellish it was - all tortured souls and agony. Visiting it... it's mostly fluffy and bright and cheerful. Sure, there's some unhappiness, but compared to London - this is Disney's castle of Beauty and the Beast.
Well, there's the coals screaming as they're burned, the prisoners trapped in clothes-legions and left to starve, the slaves being shipped off en masse, the apparent prohibition on the consummation of love... most of that is the work of the Masters, of course...
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travellersside
Posts: 288
3/21/2012
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Here's a line from one of those slaves, speaking at Wolfstack Docks:
"IN POLYTHREME THE BED I SLEPT ON WAS A SLAVE. THE ROOM WHERE I SLEPT WAS HACKED FROM SCREAMING STONE. THE WATER I DRANK BEGGED ME TO STOP. THEY PAID ME IN COIN THAT PLOTTED MY DOWNFALL. THE MEMORIES ARE TROUBLING. THIS PLACE IS BETTER."
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Dave
Posts: 215
3/21/2012
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One thing that is conspicuously absent from Polythreme is any new information about unfinished clay men. We know they must come from Polythreme somehow; but how? Give what has been revealed of how clay men are created, how does this process go wrong? How often? Or... is "unfinished" a lie, and unfinished clay men are simply clay men who are no longer obedient?
I GROW TIRED OF CARRYING BOXES.
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Diptych
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3/21/2012
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I wonder. Lyme is not, per se, obedient, but nor is he malicious. Indeed, for all of his uncles' influence, he remains firmly moral. Not all the Clay Men we meet in Polythreme seem strictly moral, but they are never described as Unfinished.
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Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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travellersside
Posts: 288
3/21/2012
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Not to mention Jack-of-Smiles. We know that he's some kind of body-hopping madman who has taken over clay men before. Presumably his other bodies were genuine humans, but the fact that he can actually take over a Clay body is interesting. (I suspect the Revolutionaries, rather than the King with a Hundred Hearts are responsible here, but still, mention of how sometimes they lose some to Jack would be interesting.)
There's also the Comtessa, for those who remember that far back, who became Clay. How is that possible, from what we know of Polythreme and the birth of Clay Men now?
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Patrick Reding
Posts: 440
3/21/2012
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Dave wrote:
One thing that is conspicuously absent from Polythreme is any new information about unfinished clay men. We know they must come from Polythreme somehow; but how? Give what has been revealed of how clay men are created, how does this process go wrong? How often? Or... is "unfinished" a lie, and unfinished clay men are simply clay men who are no longer obedient?
I GROW TIRED OF CARRYING BOXES.
There's a new opportunity card back in London that proposes an interesting hypothesis on this matter. I don't think I want to spoil it just yet, though.
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Dave
Posts: 215
3/21/2012
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
I wonder. Lyme is not, per se, obedient, but nor is he malicious. Indeed, for all of his uncles' influence, he remains firmly moral. Not all the Clay Men we meet in Polythreme seem strictly moral, but they are never described as Unfinished.
Lyme is another topic I meant to bring up, based on this spoiler:
'They say Polythreme's been here for ever. I dunno about that, but there used to be a carving in a temple of when the first ship turned up here carrying a Pharaoh's daughter. The carving's a Clay Man now, and gone to London. Heard he was getting lessons in language and etiquette. Mebbe he'll be the next Clay Broker.
Sound like someone we know, and tutor for glim?
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amaresu
Posts: 209
3/22/2012
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When speaking to a Matched Pair did anyone else think of the Comtessa?
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Zack Oak
Posts: 205
3/23/2012
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So, when reporting information to The Masters, did anyone get a reward besides the 50 memories of distant shores? It mentioned a reward possibly waiting at my lodgings, but no such reward has arrived.
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travellersside
Posts: 288
3/23/2012
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It's very, very unlikely that any such reward will arrive. From the way it was written it seemed pretty clear that the Masters wouldn't be giving you any special rewards.
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Zack Oak
Posts: 205
3/23/2012
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Dang. As much as I love The Masters, they can be stingy when they want to be...
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Jack Blackstone
Posts: 124
3/24/2012
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I hope they update Polythreme. When i first heard about it i thought they would have uniques items from each equipment catagory. However it seems that nothing except lore is found at Polythreme. Maybe they will have some fate content that gives you a clothes colony or makes you talk to the king of hearts....
What would you guys want in fate content for Polythreme?
edited by Jack Blackstone on 3/24/2012
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Patrick Reding
Posts: 440
3/24/2012
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Jack Blackstone wrote:
What would you guys want in fate content for Polythreme?
Perhaps a clay companion (constant or otherwise) rescued from the tithe ships? 
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Jack Blackstone
Posts: 124
3/24/2012
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Patrick Reding wrote:
Perhaps a clay companion (constant or otherwise) rescued from the tithe ships?
Got this picture from a Diskworld movie. Kind of fits the look of a clay man. Perhaps you will be able get your clay friend to beat Ragamuffins!
edited by Jack Blackstone on 3/24/2012
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Genny
Posts: 85
3/25/2012
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I haven't made it to Polythreme yet, but I must say I am thoroughly enjoying the Sea of Voices.
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