Laluzi
Posts: 456
10/22/2013
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Hmm. Unfortunately, I don't really see a place to give and take skulls, like there is for Starveling Cats, or Seeking the Name. Which is a shame, because I've found another one. I could use the money, but at the same time, I'd like to help another player if I can. But I don't want to hang onto the skull for any longer than I absolutely have to, because I'm fishing for a certain opportunity card at the moment and I don't need the skull cards clogging up my opportunities. So I'm inclined to just sell it - whereas if I had a name of somebody who was looking for one, I'd just give it to them and be on my way.
Perhaps it would merit its own organized give-and-take thread. I don't know - I haven't been here long. The only problem I foresee is a... sense of compensation, I guess. The Starveling Cat is easy to give away, as holding onto it provides no benefit to a non-Seeker except the knowledge that they have a kitty (albeit a deranged, ravening, snarling beast of a kitty). The skull is a pain to hold onto, but it's worth 62.50 echoes, which is a very nice bit of cash. Some people will be happy to just give them away (I would, if it didn't mean holding onto it for an indefinite amount of time), but others won't, or they'll expect something in return.
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Riley37
Posts: 125
10/24/2013
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Well, would several gift items - say, the ones which appear as gift boxes - be appropriate compensation? The Gift card comes up reasonably often, if one is flipping cards at a high rate.
I was given a Skull, by a generous player. I am seeking *five* more for a Nadir-related purpose. When that is done... if I knew that someone was all-but-Skull ready for their first Nadir expedition, then I would try to find one more Skull, to give to that person. I dunno if there's a way to sort out those who want a Skull for Nadir, from those who just happen to want 62.50 Echoes. If a person's profile shows that they have 80+ Supplies, that would be strong evidence.
So, those seeking to give and those seeking to receive, let's ponder a workable arrangement.
edited by Riley37 on 10/24/2013
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Discipulus
Posts: 1
11/3/2013
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If you sell the location of the cave of the nadir, does that mean you can never go back there?
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Laluzi
Posts: 456
11/3/2013
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Nope! You can return - you just can't sell it to anyone else.
edited by Laluzi on 11/3/2013
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
11/3/2013
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And you don't even have to open the way again yourself, which I was afraid of!
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Dr. Hieronymous Alloy
Posts: 228
11/3/2013
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So what Watchful level is appropriate for the Cave of the Nadir? I've been grinding Curiosities and Secrets in the Fallen Quarter for a while now and with items my Watchful is at ~130 or so, but otherwise I'm not even a POSI (which, oddly enough, isn't required for the Cave). Would it be worthwhile to attempt the cave or should I get my watchful higher, and how high?
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Flyte
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Posts: 671
11/3/2013
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I'd recommend going for it. Prepare as best you can -- take 100 Supplies and lots of Sudden Insights -- and be prepared to make a huge initial outlay. The rewards are great and come in weekly, so the sooner you get it done the richer you shall be.
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Dr. Hieronymous Alloy
Posts: 228
11/13/2013
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Sebastian Flyte wrote:
I'd recommend going for it. Prepare as best you can -- take 100 Supplies and lots of Sudden Insights -- and be prepared to make a huge initial outlay. The rewards are great and come in weekly, so the sooner you get it done the richer you shall be.
I went for it and got it, thanks! I'd been grinding skulls for a while just because Curios and Secrets is a relatively interesting grind for non-POSI's, so I had everything I needed. Ended up beating it with a Watchful of around ~150. I went in with 100 supplies and came out with 33.
I have to wonder if there are that many other non-POSI's who have managed to find the Cave.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
11/13/2013
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Sebastian Flyte wrote:
... the sooner you get it done the richer you shall be. Today I finally got around to it as well. I was merrily collecting Whispered Secrets at the University when these words spurred me into action. At first I thought I'd have plenty of time, but after reading a post where Spacemarine9 mentioned that the longest living story timer was 6 days and 8 hours, I thought it'd be a race against time, the healer, since I wanted to have plenty of irrigo to lose. But then it turned out that my initial estimate was more correct, and it took 6 days and 18 hours for time, the healer, to strike.
Now I'm going to take care of all the other living stories in my 'weekly' cycle, and then I'll go back to turning third tier goods into Mysteries of the Elder Continent so that I can get enough Antique Mysteries to pay for a Room at the Royal Bethlehem Hotel before my next trip to the cave. More cards should help me quarantine the ones I want to avoid. Everything seems to work out nicely.
Except for my one regret: I can't overlook the resources I foolishly spent on trying to hinder February instead of just dealing with her in the more decisive way. I only tried it once, because it looked like I might actually make it with that small an effort. But no. She got moving rather quickly after that, and now I have 9 x Presbyterate Passphrase instead of 50 x Mystery of the Elder Continent. Nine! So now I'll need to get ten more to cover for the missing one I'll need for 50 x Antique Mystery. A curse on the Calendar Council! (It also took two attempts at the chess game, but that turned out to be of less importance in the end.)
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Dr. Hieronymous Alloy
Posts: 228
11/13/2013
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Yeah, getting my rooms at the Hotel Bethlehem is next for me too =). I have enough Memories of Light to buy the room (repeatedly ran the Search for the Deranged Aunt storylet while burning off nightmares as I ground Curios and Secrets) so it's just a matter of converting them all around into Passphrases and then up to Antique Mysteries.
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Malgorath
Posts: 124
11/17/2013
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I'd like to go on this interesting expedition but I'm having no luck finding an eyeless skull. Is there anyone who would be willing to part with one?
EDIT: I've gotten one. If I ever get another, I'll pass it on to anyone who needs it.
edited by Malgorath on 11/18/2013
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Riley37
Posts: 125
11/18/2013
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Malgorath: Send me a request. Lady Ciel gave me one, and I'll "pay it forwards". Please do the same, someday!
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babelfishwars
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Posts: 1152
11/18/2013
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How do you request skulls? Where does it appear as an option?
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
11/18/2013
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It is an option on Begin an Expedition in the Forgotten Quarter but you need Route to the Nadir 1, 60 expedition supplies. Archaeologist 5 and can't have a skull. I guess that way you can't get the five you might need later, but even if you have opened the Cave you can still ask for a Skull.
babelfishwars wrote:
How do you request skulls? Where does it appear as an option?
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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babelfishwars
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Posts: 1152
11/18/2013
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lady ciel wrote:
It is an option on Begin an Expedition in the Forgotten Quarter but you need Route to the Nadir 1, 60 expedition supplies. Archaeologist 5 and can't have a skull. I guess that way you can't get the five you might need later, but even if you have opened the Cave you can still ask for a Skull.
babelfishwars wrote:
How do you request skulls? Where does it appear as an option?
Ah. It's the expedition supplies. Thanks.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
11/18/2013
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This makes me think about that scheme to send First City Coins to enable a character to buy a bottle of expensive cider: Wouldn't it be quicker to send Eyeless Skulls? I think it would, but not as much quicker as I first thought:
Ask a friend for a skull: 1 Action
Sell him an Eyeless Skull: 1 Action (Connected: Revolutionaries -20 CP)
Meet some revolutionaries: 3 Actions (Connected: Revolutionaries +20 CP at the carnival sideshows)
That's 62.50 Echoes in 5 Actions, for 12.50 Echoes per Action, which is more than the 7.50 Echoes per Action from receiving 30 x First City Coin. That doesn't include buying the carnival tickets, but since one set of 10 x Carnival Ticket lasts for 50 Actions, I'd say that the "Amber in the well" card can easily cover for that, even with the Scandal from siding with the Rubbery Men every third time to keep the card available.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
11/18/2013
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You can get 15cp Revolutionaries in one action by giving a Public Lecture in the Forgotten Quarter. You get some suspicion but you don't need the actions for the Carnival option and Carnival Tickets. So I think that is a quicker way to get connected Revolutionaries and it isn't capped at 10.
The only thing is having friends/alts with Skulls. They are not that common.
Also if you want to go the Carnival Route you can get 5 tickets and connected Rubbery on the Misfortune at the Carnival card.
edited by reveurciel on 11/18/2013
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No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
11/18/2013
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lady ciel wrote:
You can get 15cp Revolutionaries in one action by giving a Public Lecture in the Forgotten Quarter. You get some suspicion but you don't need the actions for the Carnival option and Carnival Tickets. So I think that is a quicker way to get connected Revolutionaries and it isn't capped at 10. Ah, I forgot about that one. No need for the carnival then. (I was aware of the 5 tickets from the Misfortune card, but they seemed a bit too expensive in Action cost, seeing as you only get half as many tickets as you do when buying them.) So it'd be more like 62.50 Echoes every 4 Actions then, when accounting for the Suspicion and the fact that +15 CP is not quite +20 CP.
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The only thing is having friends/alts with Skulls. They are not that common. No, they are not. When I went looking for skulls by "Seeking Curios and Secrets in the Forgotten Quarter" I found one every ~200 Actions, though that included time spent away from the Forgotten Quarter while letting Nightmares simmer down with various opportunity cards, as well as playing a lot of opportunity cards in general. With high enough stats to avoid most Nightmares, and laudanum to deal with them when the cards don't, I'm thinking that you could cut that time in half. That would mean ~25 characters supplying skulls to keep this going if everyone plays ~100 Actions every day. Keep it up for ~102 days and someone could become more immortal than the rest of us.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
11/18/2013
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But meeting Revolutionaries at the Carnival costs 3 actions, so if you get 20cp that is around 7cp per action.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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Gillsing
Posts: 1203
11/18/2013
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Yes, the Public Lecture is clearly better: 1.33 Actions to get +20 CP, and then another 0.25 Actions to lose a point of Suspicion through the social action (Ask a friend to cover for you: Suspicion -4 CP). So 1.58 Actions instead of 3 Actions to get +20 CP with everything accounted for. 3.58 Actions total for one Eyeless Skull. I just carelessly rounded that up to 4 Actions. So maybe ~91 days instead of ~102?
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