 Owen Wulf Posts: 715
7/23/2013
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
7/24/2013
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I have finally explored the Cave of the Nadir for the first time. Wow.
While I wait for the irrigo I have acquired to fade, I am contemplating my options for selling the cave's location. :-)
I do have one question though. [spoiler]Will I need to acquire a Ray-Drenched Cinder for my next foray into the Cave? [/spoiler]
Feel free to PM me if you're concerned about spoilerizing.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
7/24/2013
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[spoiler]The only cost for a repeat trip is 3 actions: no skulls or cinders[/spoiler]
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 Ewan C. Posts: 675
7/24/2013
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Having now been through once, am I the only one to feel massive anti-climax? I spent a HUGE amount of time and money to gain access, and then the ONLY effect of my entry and time in the cave is to get my stats drained. I guess that I can now sell the location, but that's a small reward and would force me to change allegiance in an anti-character way anyway. What am I missing??
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 Aximillio Posts: 1251
7/24/2013
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Ewan C. wrote:
Having now been through once, am I the only one to feel massive anti-climax? I spent a HUGE amount of time and money to gain access, and then the ONLY effect of my entry and time in the cave is to get my stats drained. I guess that I can now sell the location, but that's a small reward and would force me to change allegiance in an anti-character way anyway. What am I missing?? [spoiler]Tears of the Bazaar, the old names of the masters, the secret of lacre, irrigo stuff and more?[/spoiler] edited by Aximillio on 7/24/2013
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 Waffles54 Posts: 56
7/24/2013
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[spoiler]I feel the biggest reward from all of this is understanding who the khan of dreams is and I must say the writers have done a very good job.[/spoiler]
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 Ewan C. Posts: 675
7/24/2013
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Yeah, didn't get any of that - just repeated spider webs, piles of old bones that appear to be locked to a fate-story I haven't bought, and some woods in winter. Oh well.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
7/24/2013
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It's a bit kind of sort of late, but I did that thing what I do and wrote up a fairly comprehensive guide to stuff in the Nadir, how to get there, what to bring etc. please be clicking this here link if you would like to read more
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
7/25/2013
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Ewan C. wrote:
Yeah, didn't get any of that - just repeated spider webs, piles of old bones that appear to be locked to a fate-story I haven't bought, and some woods in winter. Oh well.
I get the impression that the Cave is more interesting the longer you have played FL and, in particular the more different stories (both Fate-locked and otherwise) that you have played. Still, I felt a bit let down too, but I expect to explore more and find more stuff in future passes. edited by cathyr19355 on 7/25/2013
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
7/25/2013
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Ewan C. wrote:
Yeah, didn't get any of that - just repeated spider webs, piles of old bones that appear to be locked to a fate-story I haven't bought, and some woods in winter. Oh well.
If you haven't seen all the Nadir has to offer yet, then you haven't reached the climax! It's a bit unfortunate that you didn't get the best content on your first visit, but the next visit will be cheaper and quicker and you might find something really good.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Playersideblog Posts: 397
7/25/2013
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I'm seriously considering playing the Daughter storylet before I go to the Cave again; worth it?
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 Finvara Posts: 430
7/25/2013
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Depends on how much you enjoy unique bits of text. The reward for doing so was certainly something I didn't expect, but if you're looking for Echoes, or Swag, don't bother. I, for one, feel it was worth it.
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 Aximillio Posts: 1251
7/25/2013
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I found the daughter pretty decent for clearing my hand. If nothing else it'll make whirring contraptions less of a chore... (I guess you can also grind mystery gifts for more academic notes for more resources for other expeditions. Or something.) edited by Aximillio on 7/25/2013
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 Finvara Posts: 430
7/25/2013
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I can't, for the life of me, seem to get the card that would let me convert my slippers or amber. Now it'll be a week before I get another shot at it.
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
7/26/2013
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Spacemarine9 wrote:
It's a bit kind of sort of late, but I did that thing what I do and wrote up a fairly comprehensive guide to stuff in the Nadir... please be clicking this here link if you would like to read more The othoufavoured access code has definitely been used up, so you might want to take it out. (Unless you like raising people's hopes, only to dash them mercilessly upon the sharp pointy rat-fangs of futility and frustration. In which case, carry on.) I think the fountainofnames code still works, though, so maybe include that? It makes a nice contingency.
Also, maybe recommend that people take Confident Smiles, because it's very profitable to keep using them until you succeed at the super-hard Persuasive challenge. Also also, what's this about giving Eyeless Skulls to other players? I don't think we can do that.
It would cause all kinds of mischief, after all. For example, I could create a new character and foist all my Skulls off on them and not get those annoying stat drain cards while grinding for a Cinder/hoarding them against some potential future use.
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
7/26/2013
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You can totally give eyeless skulls to other players, but only if they ask nicely first!

I didn't know the othoufavored code was done, but i kinda forgot about the fountain of names one. Might as well put that in there.
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
7/26/2013
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Ah, my bad. That neatly prevents alt account abuse. edited by Flyte on 7/26/2013
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 Ewan C. Posts: 675
7/26/2013
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Flyte wrote:
I think the fountainofnames code still works, though, so maybe include that? It makes a nice contingency.
Also, maybe recommend that people take Confident Smiles, because it's very profitable to keep using them until you succeed at the super-hard Persuasive challenge.
Um.. details please? What does the fountainofnames code do, and what's this persuasive challenge I should look out for?
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 Spacemarine9 Posts: 2234
7/26/2013
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The www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/a/fountainofnames access code gives you a chunk of Expedition Supplies (i think either 10 or 20.), and the persuasive challenge is a hellishly difficult one (something north of 1000 difficulty, I think?) in the Nadir on the card that has a picture of a lady with giant creepy blank red eyes. Success on it gives a searing enigma! Cash money. edited by Spacemarine9 on 7/26/2013
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 Flyte Administrator Posts: 671
7/26/2013
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If you enter fallenlondon.storynexus.com/a/fountainofnames into your address bar and login from there, you'll get 10 free Expedition Supplies. This is, I think, the only way you can salvage things if you run out of supplies during an Expedition. But you can use it beforehand, if you like -- just make sure you have no more than 90 Supplies when you do, because you can never have more than 100.
There's only one super-hard Persuasive challenge, so there's no chance you'll overlook it. If you have even a 10% chance of success, it's well worth repeatedly using second chances and backing out each time you fail.
Edit: the broad difficulty is exactly 1000. To the best of my knowledge, it's more than four times as hard as any other stat-based challenge in the game. edited by Flyte on 7/26/2013
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