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Perlino the Thief
Perlino the Thief
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13 days ago
Think we'll ever be able to hire rats in the Rat Market like you can at Redemptions in the Bazaar? But not just the Scuttering Squad. They have their own market, so buying them in Nassos' Zoologicals, a pet store of sorts, just feels wrong now for murine-liberation reasons. (And maybe we'd see a new whiskered face or two, that would be fun.)

(Sorry if this came up already. I didn't read all 8 pages of the thread).

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amalgamate
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13 days ago
Ooh, that would be a good idea.

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fishandchips
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7 days ago
This week: Sell a Ratty Reliquary for 200 Rat-Shillings.

This week's items recycled from previous weeks: Irrigo Goggles (2000), Ratwork Watch (3200), Fecund Amber Tiara (2800).

I can now finally grab the Venge-Rat Waders (10000), before the autumn season changes next month.

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Tsar Koschei
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2 days ago
So I haven't really checked out how the rotations of buying and selling coincide, but there's one thing I'd quite like to confirm: will there at some point be a weekend where the market will buy ivory organza and sell fabulous diamonds concurrently?

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PSGarak
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2 days ago
Tsar Koschei wrote:
So I haven't really checked out how the rotations of buying and selling coincide, but there's one thing I'd quite like to confirm: will there at some point be a weekend where the market will buy ivory organza and sell fabulous diamonds concurrently?

The items you can sell (Rat-Season) is cyclical. It's been mysterious up til know while we were still mapping out the Seasons, but as of this weekend the whole schedule will be fully known. Two weeks from now, when the Venge-Waders get replaced by the Winter item, Cartographer's Hoards will cycle back in.

Which items you can buy (Rat-Wind & Rat-Moon) is decided by the supreme antagonist of Fallen London, the RNG. All of your plans and machinations are but flour for its bakery of suffering, producing the finest pastries glazed with our collective tears.

The next time that Ivory Organza comes into the market (Feb 4th, if I can count right?), there will be three weeks each with a 1/16 chance that Diamonds are on sale. The odds for the three weeks are not completely independent, as the Rat-Wind and Rat-Moon are both guaranteed not to repeat week-over-week. On average it will take 64 weeks to see that particular combination of qualities, but there's no guarantee it will actually happen, ever.

I assume you're asking for Scrip-related reasons? Less than half of the Wind/Moon combinations have been observed yet. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another Scrip-convertible good lurking there somewhere.

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Lady Karnstein
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1 days ago
PSGarak wrote:
Which items you can buy (Rat-Wind & Rat-Moon) is decided by the supreme antagonist of Fallen London, the RNG. All of your plans and machinations are but flour for its bakery of suffering, producing the finest pastries glazed with our collective tears..


I just feel you should be told this is absolutely awesome.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
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1 days ago
PSGarak wrote:
Which items you can buy (Rat-Wind & Rat-Moon) is decided by the supreme antagonist of Fallen London, the RNG. All of your plans and machinations are but flour for its bakery of suffering, producing the finest pastries glazed with our collective tears.
Don't I know it. Just recently I failed five 86% rolls in a row, and waited three days for the Arbor card so I could cash in my attar and buy cider.

But okay, so these are random, no kind of schedule to them? Good to know.

PSGarak wrote:
I assume you're asking for Scrip-related reasons? Less than half of the Wind/Moon combinations have been observed yet. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another Scrip-convertible good lurking there somewhere.
Correct, and fair point. Of the ones we have seen, though, they really tend to be pretty hard to liquidate upriver.

So I guess I either farm a bunch of organza and patiently wait for my big jackpot to eventually roll around, or I diversify across the selling schedule and buy diamonds whenever they pop up. Or combine both. Thanks for the breakdown.

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PJ
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1 days ago
Isn't farming fabulous diamonds directly just as easy as farming organza? If you want to farm something just because you can sell it to the rat market sometimes, I'm sure there are easier candidates.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
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1 days ago
The profit from selling to rats is fairly substantial, you basically get a free diamond every four organzas. Obviously I could just farm any of the other sellable items, but focusing on one does streamline things a little, and I don't know that any of the others are really much easier to do. Plus picking a higher-value one means moving less units, which is convenient for me.


I guess I could split my focus between organza and cartographer's hoards, maybe with some parabolan parables thrown in. That'd reduce the randomness a bit.

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Toran
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1 days ago
Parabolan Parables are pretty profitable since they can be gained in the form of Oneiromantic Revelations from the Hell Embassy.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
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1 days ago
Yeah, you can use the same grind to get mortifications for organza purposes. It only takes 3 morts per scrap, but when I consider the other elements for larcenies, the overall action costs probably come to about the same as a parable... and grinding revelations certainly has less fuss involved. Perhaps I'll just go for a fairly even split between parabolas, organzas and hoards.

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PSGarak
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13 hours ago
Crackling Devices. This substantially changes the economy of the Khanate, as it’s a bonus to anything that can be sold for Khaganian coinage.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
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12 hours ago
Well, that is rather interesting. Something to keep in mind over there.

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fishandchips
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10 hours ago
I think the rodent basement sweatshop gives Crackling Device as one of the rewards. But for that number of actions to be invested, you might as well farm for Fourth-City Echos there.

https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/Ask_for_a_Crackling_Device_as_payment

Nothing new this weekend, items from previous weeks: Stainless Gloves, Rat's Head Cane, Vakeskin Boots.

Autumn is ending soon so I expect a new seasonal item next week. I already got my Venge-Rat Waders. So that's that.

Time to do Railway and other stuff.

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elderfleur
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10 hours ago
PSGarak wrote:
Crackling Devices. This substantially changes the economy of the Khanate, as it’s a bonus to anything that can be sold for Khaganian coinage.
A boost to Zee Dreams, too. Their Oneiric Pearl pay-outs just got a boost from 62.5 to 81.7 Echoes (exchanged at a 4% loss at the Midnight Market, then 36% gain at the Rat Market). That makes 9.08 EPA across 9 actions if one externalizes the ~21 zee actions building up Winds as "something one was doing anyways. Say, on a weekly trip to the Khanate." So hardly a "grind" so much as a nice bonus to an already nice bonus.

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PSGarak
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7 hours ago
The crab-hunt gave me zee-dreams for weeks. I've gotten two pearls already, and I'm probably only halfway through the Winds.

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