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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 1420

8/11/2021
My progress with Mr Spices is currently gated on raising my Watchful to 224. Who wants to exchange case notes?

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PJ
PJ
Posts: 675

8/11/2021
The Goat Farmer plugin tells me that I'm over halfway to a Heptagoat, but it doesn't tell me how much total scrip I have available. Something tells me it's less

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Captain Blood Storm
Captain Blood Storm
Posts: 593

8/11/2021
PSGarak wrote:
My progress with Mr Spices is currently gated on raising my Watchful to 224. Who wants to exchange case notes?


After a bit of a bad morning, I caved in and made another Fate investment. I’ve just been waiting for my actions to refresh as I help Mr. Spices with its birth, and I’ve echoed the results on my journal.

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Captain Blood Storm
Captain Blood Storm
Posts: 593

8/11/2021
I just sent Mr. Transport the space bat baby straight to Hell. I am the BEST midwife in London!

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 774

8/11/2021
I appreciate the Yeats nods in the titles.

Captain Blood Storm wrote:
I just sent Mr. Transport the space bat baby straight to Hell. I am the BEST midwife in London!
I'll do you one better.

[spoiler]I'm taking it North and shoving it straight through the Avid Horizon.[/spoiler]
edited by Tsar Koschei on 8/11/2021

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Waterpls
Waterpls
Posts: 602

8/11/2021
Licentiate have access to "free" headless skeletons.
1a add frame
1a add brass skull
1a declare humanoid
1a sell to theologian
= 6750p (skeleton value) + 1000p (bonus 4 biscuits)
= 155 scrip in 4 actions
200 000 / 155 * 4 ~= 5150 actions ~= 51 day

brass could be grinded very effectively in new location in Moloch (3.6+ EpA)
edited by Waterpls on 8/11/2021

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Captain Blood Storm
Captain Blood Storm
Posts: 593

8/11/2021
Tsar Koschei wrote:
I appreciate the Yeats nods in the titles.

Captain Blood Storm wrote:
I just sent Mr. Transport the space bat baby straight to Hell. I am the BEST midwife in London!
I'll do you one better.

[spoiler]I'm taking it North and shoving it straight through the Avid Horizon.[/spoiler]
edited by Tsar Koschei on 8/11/2021



Huh. How’d you unlock that option?

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 1420

8/11/2021
Light Fingers tie-in confirmed.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 774

8/11/2021
Captain Blood Storm wrote:
Huh. How’d you unlock that option?
I'm assuming it's a matter of which parentage you choose to emphasize. I'm quite pleased with this solution, since it essentially undercuts the plots of everyone involved. Plus I got to see the gate open, and a view of what lies beyond.

PSGarak wrote:
Light Fingers tie-in confirmed.
Any echo for those of us with a different ambition?

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 1420

8/11/2021
The tie-in is not large.

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When assisting with the delivery, a second option named something like “Assist the birth, with confidence.” The pre-click text says this is not the most difficult you have witnessed.

https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/PSGarak/23625116

[/spoiler]
Also uh, anyone else noticed the use of a new inventory slot?

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 774

8/11/2021
Ah yeah, I remember seeing that option but of course couldn't choose it. A little bit of added flavor text there but not hugely different from the basic version.

PSGarak wrote:
Also uh, anyone else noticed the use of a new inventory slot?
No. Huh? What was in it? The baby? I assumed that was just tracked as an immaterial quality. Was the slot named?

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 1420

8/11/2021
Yeah, the baby was in it while you’re giving horsey rides.
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The slot was named “Burden.” So… yeah. The slot came first, before hat, and acted like a Destiny, ie un-unequipable. The kid has strong grip.

The kid itself gave -20 to all 4 primaries and -1 respectable.
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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 774

8/11/2021
Interesting. Can only assume they have further plans for that.

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Captain Blood Storm
Captain Blood Storm
Posts: 593

8/11/2021
PSGarak wrote:
Yeah, the baby was in it while you’re giving horsey rides.
[spoiler]
The slot was named “Burden.” So… yeah. The slot came first, before hat, and acted like a Destiny, ie un-unequipable. The kid has strong grip.

The kid itself gave -20 to all 4 primaries and -1 respectable.
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I like the implication that in a city where cats pursue their own political agendas a toothy, clingy, fuzzy body furiously gnawing atop a Londoner who is unable to make it let go makes them no more Bizarre than usual by Londoner standards.

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Toran
Toran
Posts: 443

8/11/2021
Being halfway to the cider, I have pretty much exactly enough to get a hellworm. And now I have to decide whether to do that for a month, or do it after the cider. Tough call!

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PJ
PJ
Posts: 675

8/11/2021
I wish the Goat Farmer plugin kept track of Hinterland Script as well. Saving for Cider all I had to do was the normal things I did, and I could watch the number go up. I have a hundred thousand echoes worth of stuff, but I have no idea how much of my belongings are convertible to scrip.

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Tsar Koschei
Tsar Koschei
Posts: 774

8/11/2021
PJ wrote:
I have a hundred thousand echoes worth of stuff, but I have no idea how much of my belongings are convertible to scrip.
Well, the answer to that is never not "all of them". It's just a matter of how slowly and at what rate.

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PJ
PJ
Posts: 675

8/11/2021
Right. If you spent 186,900 echoes buying Infernal Sharpshooter's Rifles, it would only take 445 actions to convert them to sufficient scrip for the Hellworm at the Jericho Souvenir Shop.

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Sir Reginald Monteroy
Sir Reginald Monteroy
Posts: 373

8/12/2021
elderfleur wrote:
elderfleur wrote:
~80,000 echoes laundered through Skeletons over... 6000 actions?
Actual math reveals the numbers to be 80,687.5 Echoes and 6458 actions creating 1291 "Brass Lolipops" (Brass Skull + Headless Skeleton) and selling them off for 40,021 Biscuits worth 200,105 Scrip. You'll need to supply your own 258,200 Nevercold Brass (or set aside an extra 7746 Echoes). It's 3-5 times quicker than grinding Scrip from scratch, but obviously quite a bit more costly. I think there are better solutions, but it's an interesting baseline!



So for those of us who are in the position to entertain going after the Hellworm instead of a Heptagoat/Cider in the middle-long term, what are currently the more reasonable ways to obtain Scrip/convert Echoes to it? I'm more than a little confused after all the nerfing as to whether there is any reasonable, grindable, 4+ Scrip per action source left for non-Licentiates. My academic is not going into assassination business.

Oh, and as for the Brass Lollipops (funny way to term them), actually it's just as rewarding to sell them directly for Scrip to the Constable (155 Scrip vs. 31 Incorruptible Biscuits).

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Toran
Toran
Posts: 443

8/12/2021
Well, you could always just get headless skeletons in Marigold for one action each.

I also realized the Hellworm's card, whatever it does, means that the Heptagoat is still the only 'bragging rights' reward of this level of cost. Sigh.

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