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Hannah Flynn
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4/8/2020
Today we are unlocking some much-requested new stories for high level players!


Your Own University Lab


Perhaps you are ready for your own Laboratory. There are many studies you can do best with equipment. And obedient students.


Hire assistants, research new objects and train students! A significant new area in Fallen London!


Visible to anyone who is a Person of Some Importance, your lab is particularly designed with high level Watchful players in mind.


Parabolan Base Camp


No matter how often you walk this way, it is always at least a little different. Vines grasp you by the arm.


Hunt strange and mysterious beasts; discover the moonlit chessboard and interfere in matters of the Great Game; visit the Waswood.


Glassmen will be able to enter the base camp via the Honey-dens of Veilgarden; all players will be able to access it via their university lab.


These stories will become available across the day. We hope you have fun discovering their potential, and that of the continued updates to Fallen London in celebration of its tenth birthday.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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4/9/2020
This feels like becoming a POSI for the first time all over again. And I mean that in a good way! smile

An almost-overwhelming number of new short- and long-term goals have all opened up at once. They all require simultaneous development of new items, new resources, new locations, and even new stats! An entire new economy to be developed! I have no idea how any of this even works! I just blew something up, and I'm like 70% sure that's progress!

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Diptych
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4/19/2020
Optimatum wrote:
He built the lab and base camp in order to kill the Vake, and now he's running around looking for dinosaur skeletons why?



One doesn't need a reason to look for dinosaur skeletons. It's a natural human instinct.

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Deathjack999
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4/14/2020
Tyrconnell wrote:
I'm disappointed that there is no use for Dr. Schlomo as a companion in Parabola. The timing was good, the subject is more than apt, and even a little commentary from the good doctor would be wonderful.

Imagine Freud exploring the unconscious not by interpretation but by putting on his pith helmet and getting muddy by the river where nightmares spawn.

Dr Schlomo, the Bear Grylls of Parabola.

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Catherine Raymond
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4/10/2020
And thanks to Failbetter for opening a whole new area of high-level content for those of us who've been in Fallen London for over a decade to enjoy!

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Monara
Monara
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4/8/2020
The Bone Market appears to have different possible cards based on having Bizarre/Dreaded/Respectable zero or non-zero, as well as at least one option requiring some level of Respectable while having zero in Dreaded/Bizarre simultaneously.
An extra slot for a BDR outfit has been requested for years so I'm a bit disappointed that these mechanics are used so heavily without any proper UI support for it. Especially on mobile it's a giant pain to go through each slot and click every item individually to bring up its stats to find the right one.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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10 days ago
There's new content in the Bone Market. Not sure when it was released, but it wasn't there on release and its' there now.

Cards for new faces that require 15+ in one of the BDR stats, or 7+ in two of them. At least one Whitsun tie-in, and now some uses for Parabolan items.

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babelfishwars
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4/9/2020
PSGarak wrote:
Kerim wrote:
The card is called A Familiar Bohemian Sculptress and can only be drawn by having exactly 0 Respectable. If you used the Possessed Goldfish, you just have to equip as much Respectable items as needed to get a total of 0 instead of minus something.

That sounds honestly sounds like a bug rather than intended behavior.



This was a bug which is now fixed! smile
edited by babelfishwars on 4/9/2020

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the old man
the old man
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4/9/2020
PSGarak wrote:
This feels like becoming a POSI for the first time all over again. And I mean that in a good way! smile


An almost-overwhelming number of new short- and long-term goals have all opened up at once. They all require simultaneous development of new items, new resources, new locations, and even new stats! An entire new economy to be developed! I have no idea how any of this even works! I just blew something up, and I'm like 70% sure that's progress!

I know and coupled with the ambition it is, like you say being a posi over again for the first time, so many goals, so many things (of course the 250 action grind for shiny gems for light fingers is annoying, but still [spoiler] beats marrying Edward [/spoiler]

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Honeyaddict
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4/10/2020
I adore the Basecamp so far! Along with the Light Fingers storyline now continued I have burned through more than half my saved up Darkdrop Coffees and my Magnificent Feast.

I love the content, and I haven't even done all of it, I made sure to build up my camp proper and strong firstly then looked around.

Thank you Failbettergames for the release of such magnificent content at a time like this!

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Winthropx
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4/14/2020
I really like the RP of teaching the students. I went from teaching in Sinning Jenny’s school to teaching at the university. I’m slowly advancing my teaching career!

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Tintinnabulum
Tintinnabulum
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20 days ago
Boy, when it says researching the impossible theorem in the lab is a "very large" project , they mean the heck out of it, don't they...
edited by Tintinnabulum on 5/2/2020

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Hattington
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19 days ago
Does anyone have the echoes for offering the Fingerkings a Storm-Bird around? I remember there's 2 different successes, one regular and one rare.

Aro Saren wrote:
I tried to kick out a Freeloading Artist, but misclicked and kicked out April instead.
Please, could we have an option to permanently kill this bastard?



I too find it aggravating there's an option to lure and kill Rubbery Men, but no option to lure and kill some of my more worthless research assistants and students. For heaven's sake, I have an infernal machine of industry and a Storm-Bird lying around. Accidents happen.

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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
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24 days ago
I tried to kick out a Freeloading Artist, but misclicked and kicked out April instead.
Please, could we have an option to permanently kill this bastard?

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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4/19/2020
My guess is that there will be a greater narrative impetus with the content that's slated for End of May. What's been teased so far about that, it seems both expansive, and more squarely "the next step" for your character. Especially with what we've inferred about stat cap increased.

I think the content that's been released wasn't entirely meant to stand on its own, but rather be some pieces in a larger puzzle. But, some Ambitions tied into it, and FBG decided (correctly) that it wouldn't be great for a subset of players to get exclusive access for three-ish months, so some content was released to all players. And that meant cutting along some seams that are mechanically self-contained but not narratively self-contained.

The Bone Market feels the most stapled-on to me, and I'm pretty sure they only released that to the extent that it's required for progression in the Lab.

Parabola... I'm kind of OK with pieces of that just kind of being there. It's Parabola. Hopefully the whole thing will make sense either for bones or for Hell... or the Tree. The Tree scares me. But I think it's thematic for there to just be unexplained loose ends off to the side there.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
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4/20/2020
Players have been clamoring for more University content, more Parabola, more grand endgame goals (that are not pointless grinds) and more secrets and mysteries since forever. The lab has all of these: you are back at the University, you finally establish the Parabolan base-camp, you have a ton of things to work towards, you open up more mysteries, and you get to meet many, many colorful characters (and put old friends to good use). Additionally, you finally help the Albino Rat be happy, and you might even get rid of the artist. Plus there are hints of many, many things to come. I admit having the 6-7 thousand echoes (plus Tarot and Correspondence) helped ease the grind, but... even without that, this update addressed a number of requests at once.
Do I have complaints? Sure - not having actual social actions at the lab is going to alienate lots of end-level players as they immerse themselves for weeks, and the lack of a fifth outfit hurts. But I am impressed at how they worked so many storylines and loose ends - I hope we finally have a Toymaker's option too, so maybe the final loose end will be tidied up.

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Jolanda Swan
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4/14/2020
Ι love how it's the Shifty student becomes Dean. Very sharp commentary on Academia, I must say.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
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4/10/2020
I was afraid that the expensive Base Camp would open with too little content inside, somehow like the Dilmun Club. It was a wonderful surprise to have the fee waived and that much content to explore - especially now!

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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
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4/8/2020
One of the Lab investigations is the formula for rail steel. I'm currently engaged in prolonged activity and cannot search for myself, so: is there any source of the sample already in the game, or this is a stub for upcoming content?
Yes, I know about plans for railroad construction later on, but I'm only asking whether this particular project is already available or not.

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NotaWalrus
NotaWalrus
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8 days ago
One thing that really bothers me about this new content (which I'm loving, don't get me wrong).

To upgrade my lab, I need to get perfumed gunpowder, to do that, I need to forge holy relics and use the BDR-nuking companions to sell to the Bohemian sculptress for surface blooms. The only other option would be disambiguating hundreds of Eoliths.

So, upgrading my lab requires falsifying research and dealing with the Fingerkings, two things which my character would never do. I did it anyway, because roleplay took a back seat to seeing the new content, but now I'm stuck with these really out-of-character choices which are not very satisfying in regards to my character's story, and there aren't any other options.

Also, I find it odd that we can go into parabola and there is no option to work against the Fingerkings, considering they're generally villains in the setting.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
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1 days ago
Strange. I have played the story and didn't see the ending.
To add to the previous discussion, I loved the new content but didn't enjoy how cruel it asked you to be at times. Possessed animals? Fraud? Of course we all do bad things in the course of our lives (as Catherine said, people are complicated), and of course these things bothered me less in the beginning stages of the game, when you hadn't identified with your character yet. But this is endgame content, the characters are more solidified, and of course you should have alternatives since you know, you are someone very, very powerful. I would love a way to undo these things: I squealed with joy when the Parabolan Chessboard allowed you to work against the Liberation after all these years.

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Catherine Raymond
Catherine Raymond
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8 days ago
PSGarak wrote:
Is there another source for the Surface Blooms? I've found ways of obtaining other materials but not that one.

Fallen London does not always in general support players with hard-line moral stances. Players who want to not commit theft have a hard time progressing the Shadowy path; players who want to avoid using relationships for personal gain have a hard time advancing along the Persuasive path. Other examples abound.

Perhaps the game could offer some alternate path, even if it's not a good one. I know someone (Dyptech?) actually did disambiguate a hundred Eoliths rather than commit research fraud. I've occasionally found myself stymied by my refusal to purchase things that can be stolen.

It's reasonable to me that you need the patronage of the Fingerkings to achieve mastery of the mirrors. It's their place, it's their thin. Perhaps betraying them is something that can come later.

Light Fingers has a way to work against the Fingerkings. I'll say no more than that.


I have noticed this with my character too. However, over the years I personally have come to value new content over an absolutely consistent persona. (Of course, humans aren't always consistent in real life, so I am consoled by that.)

But there are moral issues that bother me somewhat, even given the fact that playing a character who is engaged in fraud doesn't usually bother me. I'm not bothered by making and selling Thigh Bones of St. Fiacre, since I've only sold one of those to the cleric; the Bohemian Sculptress doesn't believe those bones to be a genuine relic, any more than my character and I do. On the other hand, the only practical way I've found to get Hinterland Scrip is by palming off corrupted Statistical tables on an NPC colleague. THAT bothers me, because it's not only fraud, but it's fraud that does an innocent (if naive) person actual career harm.

I have decided to draw one line with the Fingerkings. I haven't allowed any of them to possess creatures who can talk--I've confined myself to goldfish, weasels, and lizards--no Warblers! That way, I can minimize any damage they might try to do in London.
edited by cathyr19355 on 5/15/2020

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Shaerys
Shaerys
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10 days ago
Thanks FB for adding the option to the lab to drink darkdrop coffee (assuming you have any). I was going to file feedback to the effect that of all places in Fallen London, the Lab is the one I would most expect to be able to tank up on the stuff!

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navchaa
navchaa
Posts: 561

17 days ago
Thanks for that! Just realised that there were cards to draw in the lab! I play primarily on mobile and it was not apparent that there are opportunity cards available. Feeling really stupid about it now - getting lab research level up pronto!

Waterpls wrote:
Hillmovers from Warbler's Nest in Parabola. FOr perfumed gunpowder you have to unlock recipe first, unlock Bone Market via Palaeontological research for Dean, get some materials from Bone market and research projects.

TL;DR: just progress with you lab research and parabola hunts.


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Diptych
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13 days ago
I am oh so tantalisingly close to reaching 100 Perfumed Gunpowder without having perpetuated a single forgery. I am excited and delighted.

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Skinnyman
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4/8/2020
Let's see if there are any surprises around here! smile

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ochrasy
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4/8/2020
I am so happy with the fact that [spoiler]those who killed the Vake will be able to get the stall at the bone-market for free! hopefully my network of people who owe me A LOT will have more uses in the future[/spoiler]

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Raccoonajr
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4/8/2020
I love my new lab! Thanks for all the new content, FB!!!!

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Monara
Monara
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4/9/2020
I wrote it earlier in this thread, you need to study a bone in the lab (gotten either from asking the Dean or from a 0 Dreaded card in the Bone Market) and take the expensive option (75/25 research).

Thanks you for the tip Kerim, having exactly 0 Respectable works.
Interestingly the Grandmother card requiring no Dreaded has the requirement worded in the same way ("you unlocked this by not having any.."), but does show up at negative Dreaded. Considering B/D/R doesn't even show up as a stat you have when it's negative, I consider this a bug.

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Jolanda Swan
Jolanda Swan
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4/9/2020
So many options... So confusing... so many things... feels exactly like Fallen London. I have no idea what half of you are saying but I can't wait to find out!

By the way, how do you increase/acquire Toxicology, Anatomy etc?
edited by Jolanda Swan on 4/9/2020

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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
Posts: 123

4/9/2020
Glasswork - walking Parabola and dealing with Fingerkings at the Dome.
Monstrous Anatomy - repeatedly wound your Parabolan quarry at its lair.
Mithridacy - compose narratives in Waswood.
Red Science - currently only from April after calling on her IOU.
Toxicology - only known to me - eat parabolic fruit while wounded in your camp. Fruit is harvested from the tree in your camp.
edited by Aro Saren on 4/9/2020

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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4/14/2020
I don't think the Reflections of the assistants are their future, or at least their true futures. I think it's more like their aspirations, or a reflection of their inner serlves. The Numismatrix is not destined to become a Master, it's just that she is (or views herself as) a master over her domain comparable to them.

Possibly similar to how cats in Parabola are tigers and jaguars. If a housecat is a shift student, then a tiger is the Dean.

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IHNIWTR
IHNIWTR
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4/13/2020
So I've got my lab, loving everything so far.

Quick question though - was surprised to see that between all the students and the experts, I couldn't use my Fraught Research Assistant anywhere? I know he's Fraught and everything, but this is what he's there for! I am Researching, and I need Assistance!!

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Optimatum
Optimatum
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4/13/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
Thank you!
Only thing I don't love, is the action cost to get in and out (especially when you are still discovering what you need) and the BDR requirements of the Bone Market. The much requested fifth BDR slot would have come in really handy.



One thing I hope FBG changes once the content is fully implemented is making the Bone Market an infinite-deck location. Now that it costs actions, we might as well be able to experiment with outfits without having to worry about optimizing draws.

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Tyrconnell
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4/14/2020
I'm disappointed that there is no use for Dr. Schlomo as a companion in Parabola. The timing was good, the subject is more than apt, and even a little commentary from the good doctor would be wonderful.

Imagine Freud exploring the unconscious not by interpretation but by putting on his pith helmet and getting muddy by the river where nightmares spawn.

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Carns
Carns
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4/16/2020
You can also bring the Storm Bird to the Dome of Scales for a more consistent source of Incisive Observations than trying to climb the dome. The Storm Bird will not be consumed, and you’ll get 4-5 Incisive Observations each action, without needing to pass any challenges.
edited by Carns on 4/16/2020
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PSGarak
PSGarak
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4/17/2020
Deathjack999 wrote:
What are we supposed to use the Glass Gazettes for?

Where does one obtain Glass Gazettes?

I found an option to use them while hunting. And an option to use Fingerking favors, which I don't remember existing before.

Also I'm excited that I can now rave about Fake News. Glass Gazette: All the news that Is Not, fit to print!

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chiche
chiche
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4/17/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
...A salary from the University?
How do you get money from that? So far I have only spent lots and lots of money (Pulsating Amber, animals, Memories of Light etc) but apart from the students' souvenirs, I don't think I made anything.

And now I am doing a *2700* research project, so I am quite far ahead. What am I missing?

I ’m still investing in my laboratory. "About college salary" is actually just a joke, but when you have a top-level laboratory, it becomes very profitable to make "Impossible Theorem" and sell them ( But it takes a long time)
If you think "Impossible Theorem" takes a long time to make, you can also choose to make Building a Cartographer's Hoard
Rahv and others discussed it on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/g0krvd/weekly_small_questions_thread_20200413/fnkdjlg?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

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Not long ago FBG released a patch,
They mentioned
"In the University Lab, Disgruntlement of the Students has become more menacing. The Student Complaints card begins appearing earlier, and an additional card triggers if Disgruntlement is allowed to rise as high as 6."
There is no doubt that this will affect profits, lol, seeing that some black-hearted bosses squeeze graduate students so seriously that they have enacted a graduate student protection law.
edited by chiche on 4/17/2020

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Optimatum
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4/18/2020
The Gifted Student definitely has a higher chance to level up during research than the previous students.

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Waterpls
Waterpls
Posts: 322

4/19/2020
You need less than 6k Echo to build everything and raise available stats to current max. And less than 3 weeks of actions. So overall cost in not that high, comparable to overgoat.
edited by Waterpls on 4/19/2020

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Deathjack999
Deathjack999
Posts: 140

4/20/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
Parabola is great though. Spontaneously deciding to make viric clothing is exactly the sort of content it needs.

You should have the option to create an entire suite of Neathbow Clothing for your Wardrobe.

We already have Strange-Shore and Viric, The Hell Update might give us Cosmogene.
edited by Deathjack999 on 4/20/2020

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Lazaroth
Lazaroth
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27 days ago
A thought:

There is a silver tree in the Parabolan Base Camp.

There was also a silver tree in Karakorum, before it fell.

...This probably doesn't actually mean anything, but I couldn't get it out of my head.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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23 days ago
Is it me, or is graduating Gifted Students a really good source of Society Favors?

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Plynkes
Plynkes
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20 days ago
Hadn't really been keeping up with announcements about recent developments in the game much, and had not been back to the University in an age, so it was a nice surprise to stumble upon a new storylet concerning a laboratory.

I'm having tons of fun with it right now. Thanks, FB!

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PSGarak
PSGarak
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19 days ago
Tintinnabulum wrote:
Boy, when it says researching the impossible theorem in the lab is a "very large" project , they mean the heck out of it, don't they...

They don't call it the Somewhat Challenging Theorem for a reason.

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Waterpls
Waterpls
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18 days ago
Hillmovers from Warbler's Nest in Parabola. FOr perfumed gunpowder you have to unlock recipe first, unlock Bone Market via Palaeontological research for Dean, get some materials from Bone market and research projects.

TL;DR: just progress with you lab research and parabola hunts.

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Catherine Raymond
Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518

20 days ago
Aro Saren wrote:
And now I've done everything I wanted in the lab and camp and finished BaL. Next content update is 11 May, right?
edited by Aro Saren on 4/30/2020


It will be possible to obtain a stall in the Bone Market on May 8. But the next big wodge of content is the Whitsun festival on May 11, as you said.

EDIT: I looked at the Bone Market this morning and now the stall storylets all say they are locked till the "end of May".
edited by cathyr19355 on 5/5/2020

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Professor Wensleydale of Hardwick
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27 days ago
Lazaroth wrote:
A thought:

There is a silver tree in the Parabolan Base Camp.

There was also a silver tree in Karakorum, before it fell.

...This probably doesn't actually mean anything, but I couldn't get it out of my head.


New headcanon: it’s the same tree.

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Optimatum
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4/20/2020
PSGarak wrote:
My guess is that there will be a greater narrative impetus with the content that's slated for End of May. What's been teased so far about that, it seems both expansive, and more squarely "the next step" for your character. Especially with what we've inferred about stat cap increased.

I think the content that's been released wasn't entirely meant to stand on its own, but rather be some pieces in a larger puzzle. But, some Ambitions tied into it, and FBG decided (correctly) that it wouldn't be great for a subset of players to get exclusive access for three-ish months, so some content was released to all players. And that meant cutting along some seams that are mechanically self-contained but not narratively self-contained.

The Bone Market feels the most stapled-on to me, and I'm pretty sure they only released that to the extent that it's required for progression in the Lab.

Parabola... I'm kind of OK with pieces of that just kind of being there. It's Parabola. Hopefully the whole thing will make sense either for bones or for Hell... or the Tree. The Tree scares me. But I think it's thematic for there to just be unexplained loose ends off to the side there.



That explanation makes a lot of sense. Most of my disinterest in the new content is specifically for the Bone Market and all the lab's item grinds, but I hadn't been thinking of these as the requirements for another story. As a BaL player, the lab and Parabola made sense to me since they were involved in my ambition—it was the sudden introduction of so much currently-meaningless research that threw me off, where players without prior lab access saw those from the start.

Parabola is great though. Spontaneously deciding to make viric clothing is exactly the sort of content it needs.

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Tintinnabulum
Tintinnabulum
Posts: 61

4/21/2020
Speaking of bones, and because there doesn't really seem to be a better place to mention it, bones are now sorted into their own category (Osteology) on the possessions tab, no longer in Curiosity.

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Scienceandponies
Scienceandponies
Posts: 247

4/21/2020
Just graduated my first profound student and was surprised to find him an easy source of Nightsoil of the Bazaar. Kind of wish I knew about that before dropping all those rubbery skulls and pulsating ambers. Anyone know if it has any other uses than making more gunpowder, or if there is any further use for gunpowder after the lab upgrade?
edited by Scienceandponies on 4/21/2020
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PSGarak
PSGarak
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4/21/2020
Amalgamate wrote:
Anyone know what the "rare success" rate is for working with your shifty student (or later students)?

I'm trying to figure out if it's more effective to just work with the student until they advance on their own, versus researching in more effective ways and then spending that research to progress the students.

I don't know the exact rate, but the general feeling seems to be to spend research on the Shifty & Meticulous students, and let the Gifted student learn on their own.

If you're intending to grind student research for a while, then you might consider picking one of the projects that has alternate options for collecting research. The one that lets you use Monstrous Anatomy is pretty good when you have the stat max-maxed.

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Ragnar Degenhand
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4/22/2020
Aro Saren wrote:
Can someone remind where you can reliably and cheaply get wounded? Preferrably in London and in manageable increments.


The labyrinth, exchanging nightmares with the hyena. Nightmares if necessary pootling around the Forgotten Quarter.

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bertrandwins
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4/19/2020
Can anyone explain why it's worth building up the base camp defences?

From what I've seen on the wiki its only 2 uses are 1) BaL story 2) being able to cure yourself of nightmares.

Is anyone working on a guide to the university lab and parabolan base camp that we can contribute to? I know it's rather premature right now since there's load of content yet to be released, but with the latest update there's so many things swirling around. Mind-bogglingly exciting.

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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3666

4/19/2020
Tsar Koschei wrote:
So... I'm working on maxing out my camp and lab, completing all available research, becoming master of Parabola by maxing out my glasswork, anatomy, toxicology, chess studies, mithridacy... all mostly just for the hell of it.


This is my one gripe with the new content. It's a lot of fun, but my character was never given a reason to care about this. He built the lab and base camp in order to kill the Vake, and now he's running around looking for dinosaur skeletons why? He's having fun, and much of the work fits well with his character, but there's no personal significance. All this new content feels tailored to what players would find interesting—and it does a fantastic job of this!—but my character is making all these things for no reason.


JaneAnkhVeos wrote:
bertrandwins wrote:
Can anyone explain why it's worth building up the base camp defences?

From what I've seen on the wiki its only 2 uses are 1) BaL story 2) being able to cure yourself of nightmares.

The 2nd also gives Solacefruit (rare success), the only non-Fate and non-seasonal source for now.



Solacefruit is also available through the Waswood. The base camp defenses do also lower the penalty for unsuccessful hunts, but they're pretty irrelevant.

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Jolanda Swan
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4/17/2020
If anyone was wondering, upgrading your lab with 10 Fate gives 17 research on a success and 13 on a failure.


On another note, I am pretty sure I saw some options on a card that require expensive items (enigmas etc) but give plenty of research. I can't have been researching the Impossible Theorem, as I already had two. Right now, as I work on the Infernal machine, I cannot find them on any card. What gives?

And finally... drumroll... where can I find railway steel? Perhaps it's not yet implemented?




edited by Jolanda Swan on 4/17/2020
edited by Jolanda Swan on 4/17/2020

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Tintinnabulum
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Posts: 61

4/14/2020
There are (presumably because of the release of the next/last? part of the Light Fingers finale) two new experiments to undertake in the lab-- one of them is the Devilish Probability Distributor, which requires 450 Laboratory Research (I'm early in gathering that so I don't know what the result of the work is).

The other is called a "Mirthless Compendium of Statistical Observations" and needs 125 Laboratory Research, and also a Meticulous Student. (Or you can pass off some fakery versions containing Parabolan Research, without the Student, but with the 125 Research.)

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Hattington
Hattington
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4/15/2020
Deathjack999 wrote:
Tyrconnell wrote:
I'm disappointed that there is no use for Dr. Schlomo as a companion in Parabola. The timing was good, the subject is more than apt, and even a little commentary from the good doctor would be wonderful.

Imagine Freud exploring the unconscious not by interpretation but by putting on his pith helmet and getting muddy by the river where nightmares spawn.

Dr Schlomo, the Bear Grylls of Parabola.



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MidnightVoyager
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Posts: 858

4/15/2020
I mean, it's Freud. He'd make it gross and awful somehow. We're probably better off with him where he is, just being vague and mostly wrong.

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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
Posts: 123

4/15/2020
So, they added another option to upgrade, substituting coins and dice for several researches.

Honestly, what a... reasonable, entertaining and fitting move. I like it better that way, thank you, Failbetter.
The only complaint is that it could be added sooner, but I took my time with previous stage.

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Krieg
Krieg
Posts: 11

4/10/2020
Anyone figured out what the survey data is for yet?

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MidnightVoyager
MidnightVoyager
Posts: 858

4/10/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
I have been playing two days straight, with a Fate-bought candle too, and I just got into Parabola - though i had an abundance of echoes and resources. Love that!
Unfortunately, Parabola causes both Mozilla and Chrome to crawl. Takes ages to spend an action. I understand others have had the same problem?

I'm not sure it's a Mozilla/Chrome thing. The servers just keep dying because everyone's at home

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Catherine Raymond
Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518

4/10/2020
MidnightVoyager wrote:
Jolanda Swan wrote:
I have been playing two days straight, with a Fate-bought candle too, and I just got into Parabola - though i had an abundance of echoes and resources. Love that!
Unfortunately, Parabola causes both Mozilla and Chrome to crawl. Takes ages to spend an action. I understand others have had the same problem?

I'm not sure it's a Mozilla/Chrome thing. The servers just keep dying because everyone's at home


I agree with Midnight Voyager. I find the game slow, and I got bounced out of FL a few times, but I think that's just due to volume, as I was able to get back in soon afterward.

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Amalgamate
Amalgamate
Posts: 435

4/11/2020
Hehe, I put my nightmares at 6, put on two nightmare-increasing items, and then just grinded that storm-bird quality up to 10. Will have to catch one later...

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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
Posts: 123

4/11/2020
Sighting is capped at 15, btw.

You cannot sell the Storm-bird (yet), you cannot study it as a standalone project, but you'll need 3 for Monstrosity 7 cap upgrade.

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Kylestien
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4/11/2020
Akernis wrote:
Is all those interesting things you can do in Parabola only for people who have reached the end of the finished ambitions? I can't seem to do anything in my basecamp except make a little Parabolan research.



That's because you are not in the base camp, but the reflection of your laboratory. I made the same mistake. Pick the leave option, there should be a advance to base camp option in it. (:

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Ysrthgrathe
Ysrthgrathe
Posts: 87

4/11/2020
I extended my studies of the Focused Albatross and did the 1500 research thing. Then my browser crashed.

Could someone please be so kind and provide me with the link for the result text?
What about the "valuable one-of-a-kind item" as the outcome? Please tell me the name so I can look it up in my inventory.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 834

4/11/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
Ι... did back Sinning Jenny, yet I cannot find an Anchoress among my companions. Should I contact support?

During Elections, you got one free gift, and you could choose between one related to your candidate, or one related to your campaign-profession. During that first election, I believe a lot of people selected the latter because at the time the Watchful boots were best-in-slot.

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Akernis
Akernis
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4/11/2020
Kylestien wrote:

That's because you are not in the base camp, but the reflection of your laboratory. I made the same mistake. Pick the leave option, there should be a advance to base camp option in it. (:

Ah! Much appreciated ^^

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Optimatum
Optimatum
Posts: 3666

4/11/2020
Nightsoil can be acquired by a rubbery purchaser, which needs Bizarre 3.

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The Curious Watcher
The Curious Watcher
Posts: 263

4/12/2020
The lab equipment upgrade after the explosives will definitely divide the haves from the have-nots Big Grin

For most people, the cost will be a working rat, 5 Devilbone Dice, 10 Justificande Coins, and 1,000 First City Coins. Even when I was grinding Airag through the Portly Sommelier card for the Noman's tattoo (enough to get 20 Vials of Tears), I've only gotten a fraction of the amount of First City Coins now needed. The best bet is to ask someone with Heart's Desire for help, since they can generate coins as long as they have less than 77 based on my knowledge.

However, for those who have the Shoshana's Neathly Tarot from last year's election, it seems that they can bypass this requirement AND keep their Tarot Deck. I haven't reached this point yet, but never before have I been glad to be a supporter of Shoshana until now.
edited by The Curious Watcher on 4/12/2020

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Carns
Carns
Posts: 30

4/12/2020
It’s probably just bad luck. As far as I know, the given chances are accurate to the actual chances. The game probably isn’t lying. Luck is luck, sometimes it acts weirdly
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Aro Saren
Aro Saren
Posts: 123

4/13/2020
Storm-Bird in Parabola. It's a rare success from raiding its Cloud instead of the Bird.
edited by Aro Saren on 4/13/2020

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silurica
silurica
Posts: 210

4/13/2020
Jolanda Swan wrote:
I expanded my laboratory with Fate, to 4 places. Until now, I have the Spider scholar, the Numismatrix and Lettice. I do not want to get the Artist or the Urchin for the fourth position, but are there any other options available (for those of us with the Heart's Desire ambition)?


That's all the experts we have for now. You can fill the last slot with a student if you want, they're good sources of regular research after you've trained them. As for ambition, both April from Bag a Legend and the Esurient Smith from Nemesis are only permanently* obtainable as assistant after finishing the respective ambitions, so I expect Light Fingers and Heart's Desire will follow naturally once they reach their conclusion. Dr Vaughan looks like a good candidate for a lab assistant from Light Fingers.


*) Semi-permanently in case of April; it seems possible to lose her, but you can hire her once then never dismiss her ever.

Jolanda Swan wrote:
And what about the Parabolan lab - if you don't have the Anchoress or the Rose Countess, who else can you get?

I think what you see is all there is for your Base-Camp defenses, it hasn't changed at all since its early implementation for Bag a Legend. If you don't have either, you must pay the 11 Rookery Passwords or 11 Pulsating Amber cost.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 834

4/13/2020
Severinus wrote:
Yeah i must have been confusing you with how i worded it then, i'm not looking to use fate for the lab upgrades i want to use fate to get the extra assistant slots they mentioned and i don't see where that option is located. Because the only options i see right now to get those slots are with resources i don't care to spend just to get these slots.

I think you have to spend regular resources to expand your lab to 3, and then there's a Fate option to expand to 4. Fate doesn't let you skip steps, it only unlocks an extra step afterwards.

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Diptych
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4/13/2020
No, those options are mutually exclusive. Once you've got the rubberies and the hound, your base-camp has no need for the urchins and the tigress.

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Skinnyman
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Posts: 2133

4/9/2020
Winthropx wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
Winthropx wrote:
If you still have your coins from the mysteries, there’s an option on the Numismatrix card to ask her about it.

I’ll take a screenshot the next time I’m in my lab. The following link has the result.

https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Winthropx/18130862
But weren't those coins supposed to be gone? I only spend all 14 on cats because this was promised. upset
Well, 14 Shorthair aren't bad either! smile)
edited by Skinnyman on 4/9/2020

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Monara
Monara
Posts: 162

4/8/2020
Kerim wrote:

Edit: Pretty sure I'm going to need a Holy Relic of the Thigh of Saint Fiacre.

In case you don't have it yet, petitioning the Dean for a new experiment and finishing the research with the expensive option (make up its origin) gave me this result 2 out of 2 so far.

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Monara
Monara
Posts: 162

4/8/2020
Chronos wrote:
I went to department of menace eradication, but I cannot find the Bone Market. And I have a lab. What am I missing?



You need to do one of the new research options (paleonthological task) to get the route.

Deathjack999 wrote:
When you Face the Storm-bird in its Cloud what do you get for Searching the Cloud?


I tried it twice and got a Whirring Contraption both times.

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Winthropx
Winthropx
Posts: 166

4/8/2020
There’s an option to hire the silk-clad expert for fate.

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Monara
Monara
Posts: 162

4/8/2020
Not sure, but with the nightmares 5 shortcut I'm sure this is a lot faster, assuming you encountered the bird enough times to start the pursuit without wasting a lot of actions.

Unrelated, but I just tried training the second student in the lab (the one you can hire after 5) and the action to train her requires 25 research to play but actually takes off 50. Not sure if intended but that means you're better off always doing it at 25. Possibly mislabeled?

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Deathjack999
Deathjack999
Posts: 140

4/8/2020
Working on getting everything for the second option when research the Albatross.

Wish me luck!

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Deathjack999
Deathjack999
Posts: 140

4/8/2020
Monara wrote:
On the Albatross research, [spoiler]the second option only unlocks a further (very long) research stage, it doesn't actually give the promised unique item. And the stage after that gives something that does nothing. Just says it may have some use in the future.[/spoiler]

Also, has anyone found a use for the survey data?

Concerning the Bone Market, I haven't found the Surface Bloom needed for the gunpowder, but I don't have a way to reduce my Bizarre/Dreaded to zero yet so I can't actually see all the options. I found a Respectable -8 companion and Dreaded -2 one as well as Bizarre -3 clothes. Considering I have the Boneless Consort, Young Stags' Club, and two Dreaded tattoos, it's nowhere near enough. Anything I've missed that would get me there?
edited by Monara on 4/8/2020

Well that's a kick in the privets.


Look try and find the Dome of Scales, the Possessed Goldfish you can get from there has -4 BDR across the board.

I'm trying to leave to go and Buy a Lucky Weasel, but the game won't let me out of the Dome now all the options are barred.


Edit: and as it turns out, the servers have fallen over.
edited by Deathjack999 on 4/8/2020

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Waterpls
Waterpls
Posts: 322

4/8/2020
Cheers! My body is sooo ready.

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Monara
Monara
Posts: 162

4/8/2020
Lots of new stuff so far, and some more teasing of future unlocks. I'm currently looking for the Storm Bird needed for one of the new research subjects, but I haven't encountered it yet. The Dome of Scales and Viric Jungle are still locked with the requirement for it to be April 8 and I'm suspecting it is in there somewhere. Is this intended to still be locked?

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the old man
the old man
Posts: 381

4/8/2020
sounds fun, currently in mutton island trying to get zailors to like me for light fingers so It may be some time before I can appreciate it
edited by the old man on 4/8/2020

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Deathjack999
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Posts: 140

4/8/2020
I find it humorous that making Perfumed Gunpowder requires 40 piles of space bat droppings (that or actual waste produced by the Bazaar itself.)

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Azothi
Azothi
Posts: 586

4/8/2020
Monara wrote:
Lots of new stuff so far, and some more teasing of future unlocks. I'm currently looking for the Storm Bird needed for one of the new research subjects, but I haven't encountered it yet. The Dome of Scales and Viric Jungle are still locked with the requirement for it to be April 8 and I'm suspecting it is in there somewhere. Is this intended to still be locked?
For the Storm-Bird, you want to raise Nightmares to 8 while in Parabola to encounter it for the first time.

The Dome of Scales and Viric Jungle will be released, but the scale of the content means that the update is staggered - not everything will go live at once. It's safe to expect them in the next few hours.

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Rostygold
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Posts: 346

4/8/2020
Off to the wiki to edit it! Do this too, people!
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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 834

4/8/2020
I am noticing a decent amount of usage of a totally new mechanic that didn't exist before, which is the ability to change the *value cap* for a stat. Like how Favors are capped at 7, and main stats are capped at 200. This is probably related to the fact that such caps are now actually visible.

One line from one of the playbills a few months back mentioned "Reach new and giddy heights of skill and notoriety!" I'm wondering if we'll actually see cap increases on main stats or other things.

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Winthropx
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Posts: 166

4/8/2020
There’s an option in hiring staff for the lab that’s unique to Nemesis.

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PSGarak
PSGarak
Posts: 834

13 days ago
There are undiscardable cards if your Menaces are too high, or Student Disgruntlement. So, your hand can get clogged if you let it. I think in practice the main effect of having a deck is to let that auto-fire Disgruntlement event occur. Otherwise I agree, the deck-ness is under-utilized.

I feel like there's a way to make the deck impactful, but it's a narrow line away from being frustrating. Having all the cards be un-discardable might be viable, but it's a balance challenge, especially when your lab isn't fully kitted and staffed. Alternatively, an auto-fire card or two to prevent endless card-flipping (Jenny's school has this mechanism). And of course you don't want to encourage a part-empty lab.

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Amalgamate
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13 days ago
Right now, with students, I already have less than a full lab because even with infinite card flips it's frustrating to flip continuously to get the student card. I imagine if cards were undiscardable, a bunch of the extra people you could get in your lab would turn into detriments.

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enail
enail
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17 days ago
Man, I can't believe how much new content there is lately! And not just new - fascinating, satisfying, lore-laden and full of elements I've been hoping to see come to something. This is just incredible!
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Winthropx
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16 days ago
I can’t wait for more content! I have all the new stats at their max except for red science and changing arts! All that’s left is to train students!

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Winthropx
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10 days ago
NotaWalrus wrote:
PSGarak wrote:
There are undiscardable cards if your Menaces are too high, or Student Disgruntlement. So, your hand can get clogged if you let it. I think in practice the main effect of having a deck is to let that auto-fire Disgruntlement event occur. Otherwise I agree, the deck-ness is under-utilized.

I feel like there's a way to make the deck impactful, but it's a narrow line away from being frustrating. Having all the cards be un-discardable might be viable, but it's a balance challenge, especially when your lab isn't fully kitted and staffed. Alternatively, an auto-fire card or two to prevent endless card-flipping (Jenny's school has this mechanism). And of course you don't want to encourage a part-empty lab.

Jenny's school only has that option if you take in unsuitable students though. you can completely bypass it by taking a trio of suitables.


They were talking about teaching students at the university. It has a different menace stat that’s tracked there.

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NotaWalrus
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8 days ago
I guess what bothers me is how nonchalant the game is about this. There is nothing that implies there will be repercussions or that this is not something you should do. It's just the next logical step in game progression and that kinda short circuits any moral circuit the player might use to evaluate the decision.

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Diptych
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7 days ago
Aro Saren wrote:
Again: Bone Market is recently updated with new customers. Now you have more options to get stuff, without forgeries.



Already upgraded my lab by begging eoliths off the Rubbery Servant and experimenting on them until they dissolved. No regrets!

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phryne
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5 days ago
This has probably been mentioned already, but if you're researching something with a Red Science focus (e.g. Aged Eggs), there's an option on the Red Science opp card unlocked with 'Confronting the Lighthearted Polymath' - a quality you can only get from playing the Season of Skies bonus story! The flavour text even mentions the Persona Engine.

Both these stories are among my all-time favourites, so this is incredibly cool - especially since this is content from 2016/17. I love these throwbacks! smile

For those interested, here are the storylet's echoes for success and failure.
Success gave 19 Research, failure 17.
edited by phryne on 5/18/2020

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PSGarak
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8 days ago
Is there another source for the Surface Blooms? I've found ways of obtaining other materials but not that one.

Fallen London does not always in general support players with hard-line moral stances. Players who want to not commit theft have a hard time progressing the Shadowy path; players who want to avoid using relationships for personal gain have a hard time advancing along the Persuasive path. Other examples abound.

Perhaps the game could offer some alternate path, even if it's not a good one. I know someone (Dyptech?) actually did disambiguate a hundred Eoliths rather than commit research fraud. I've occasionally found myself stymied by my refusal to purchase things that can be stolen.

It's reasonable to me that you need the patronage of the Fingerkings to achieve mastery of the mirrors. It's their place, it's their thin. Perhaps betraying them is something that can come later.

Light Fingers has a way to work against the Fingerkings. I'll say no more than that.

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