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On Matters of Soul Trade
Waterpls
Posts: 324
3/28/2020
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Shepherd
A1 base grind is 2.1 epa
A2 base favour value is 2.1e
A3 best ways to clear menaces are social actions (-6 cppa)
From A1 and A3 cost of 1cp of menaces is 2.1 / 6 = 0.35e
"A true and dedicated shepher of souls" cost is 1000 souls + 100 contracts = 40e
The best grind for souls ("The price of…") is 1.21 epa
and the best grind for contracts ("Contracts and legs") is 1 epa
From A1 you are missing (2.1 - 1.21) = 0.89e on every action in soul grind
and you need 20 / 1.21 = 16.5 actions.
Same for contracts, (2.1 - 1) = 1.1e and 20 / 1 = 20 actions
Adjusted cost for Shephed card is (20 + 16.5 * 0.89) = 34.68e and (20 + 20 * 1.1) = 42,
so total cost is 76.68.
"A true and dedicated shepher of souls" reward is 13.5 favours on average and menace wipe.
From A2 13.5 * 2.1 = 28.35e.
How many menaces do we need to break even?
(76.68 - 28.35) / 0.35 = 144 cp of menaces
Without menace reducing items its safe to have 35 cp of one menace,
so 35 * 4 = 140 we are still in “debt”. With menace reducing items we do have nano-profit, which is totally do not worth the hassle.
That was the best option on card. Second best (50 souls for 1.5 favours) is 1.41 epa, others even worse.
Spirifer
Spirifers grind is 1.65 - 1.75 epa according to different sources. When non-fate locked grinds provide 2.1-2.2 epa (silken thread expeditions and court of the eye), who even need spirifing?
Possible solution
Change "The prince of…" to 1.45 epa and "Contracts and legs" to 1.6 epa. Or add better sources for souls and contracts
Alternative calculation for 1.45 epa soul grind and 1.6 epa contract grind :
You are missing (2.1 - 1.45) = 0.65e on every action in soul grind
and you need 20 / 1.45 = 13.8 actions.
Same for contracts, (2.1 - 1.6) = 0.5e and 20 / 1.6 = 12.5 actions
Adjusted cost for Shephed card is (20 + 13.8 * 0.65) = 28.97e and (20 + 12.5 * 0.5) = 26.25,
so total cost is 55.22.
How many menaces do we need to break even?
(55.22 - 28.35) / 0.35 = 77 cp of menaces (seven is the number!). Or two “maxed” menaces and some.
With 1.45 epa souls grind spirifing is 2.1-2.2 epa.
edited by Waterpls on 3/28/2020
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Long grinds: Heptagoat 100/180; Cider Done; Correspondence 21/21; Paramount 4/4.
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