 Jon Posts: 5
3/20/2020
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The Curious Watcher wrote:
For those who decided to make the promise to Wines to kill a friend (a real friend, not the BS that Veils is a friend), do you have to honor the promise immediately or does it hang over you forever? And if it is immediately, who does Wines expect for you to kill?
I promised to kill a real friend, you do not immediately act on that promise. Unless I missed something/it’s part of the final epilogue 24 hours later, you never act on that promise at all
If it is part of the 24 hours later thing I’ll come back and edit this comment saying so
Edit: Mr Wines approaches you during the final epilogue, you expect him to bring up the promise and the friend is suggested to be April. Surprisingly, Wines does not press you on fulfilling your end of the deal, he express the contrary. April lives on edited by Jon on 3/20/2020
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 Jaina Posts: 239
3/20/2020
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As a heads-up, you can either eat third city Veils or capture him. The person I know who got there has not yet made her decision.
Can you share their mantelpiece please? The more I hear about Third City Veils the more fascinating it sounds as a pet. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Isla%20Sinclair (one of Acra's alts)
-- Cair-Var, a power-hungry lover of Devils and Rubberies Hungry Ego, A morally upstanding citizen
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 The Curious Watcher Posts: 263
3/20/2020
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Chwomp wrote:
I plan to capture and make 3rd city Veils my pet. Anyone interested in the stats? edited by Chwomp on 3/19/2020
I saw this in his journal, the ending involving Third City Veils as your "friend". You get the same affiliation with the other option with Third City Veils.
If the Drowned Man could witness this, I wonder if he would be laughing at the irony of Third City Veils's potential endings.
-- The Thirteenth Master of the Bazaar: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Thirteenth%20Master%20of%20the%20Bazaar The Silent Vake Hunter: GONE NORTH The Ravenous Wanderer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Ravenous%20Wanderer The Melancholic End-Bringer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Melancholic%20End-Bringer The Lethal Nightmare: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Lethal%20Nightmare
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 Jaina Posts: 239
3/20/2020
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Eating him is irony, and chaining him to a tree to suffer forever in impotence is just *hilarious*. Kudos to FBG.
-- Cair-Var, a power-hungry lover of Devils and Rubberies Hungry Ego, A morally upstanding citizen
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 ChangelingChilde Posts: 231
3/20/2020
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Yeah, I think I’ll be eating him. If anyone could use a laugh it’s Eaten.
-- DO you recall how the Hunger began? I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can! OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond. --The Elfin Cannibal
Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.
Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897. Will be Vake-hunting next.
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 Jaina Posts: 239
3/21/2020
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I really hope someone 'spares' the Intriguer soon. I'd really like to know what it does before I commit to anything.
I'm really torn because on one hand, killing all of him is great; on another, you can make him your horse; and on a third, you can eat or humiliate him forever
-- Cair-Var, a power-hungry lover of Devils and Rubberies Hungry Ego, A morally upstanding citizen
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 Hattington Posts: 210
3/21/2020
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Jaina wrote:
I really hope someone 'spares' the Intriguer soon. I'd really like to know what it does before I commit to anything.
I'm really torn because on one hand, killing all of him is great; on another, you can make him your horse; and on a third, you can eat or humiliate him forever
Y'know, while I did have some serious internal debate about whether I wanted a spooky eldritch Veils pet or a feral Curator Veils pet? I immediately found the Intriguer Veils more insufferable than the other two.
Maybe it's just the idea of Slowcake's Amanuensis with all the social graces of the Vake, I don't know.
-- The Dawnburnt Vake-Rider: https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Hattington
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 The Curious Watcher Posts: 263
3/21/2020
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We have most of the endings, so let me use my real-life Mithridacy skills to convince people to pick "X" option:
1. Killing all three incarnations of Veils lets you publicly brag to everyone that you took down a Master / Vake, a feat that many people tried and failed to accomplish over thousands of years. You kill a Master, you humiliate the other Masters who now have to deal with the inevitable power vacuum, and even the Bazaar is in your debt. For devout anarchists and Liberation supporters, this is probably the most appealing option.
2. For Curator Veils: First, the Vake almost succeeds in hunting you. Then you hunt the Vake, to greater success. Now you ride the Vake like a mere steed. Need I say any more? Curator Veils is a monstrous brute, but one that is the simplest to bring under your control and the only one that can fulfill a person's lifelong dream to fly unhindered over the Neath. As a bonus, it (probably) won't betray you for the LOLs or play unfathomable 4D mind games with you as long as it's fed, so you can rest easier at night if that is a concern.
3. For Third City Veils: This version of Veil, despite creating some of the worst monstrosities in Neathly history that the Masters are still dealing with to this very day, continues to have a massive god-complex and expects to be treated as one. Unlike Curator Veils or Surface Veils, it has no intention to even pretend that it will help you in any capacity or admitting defeat (and only a complete idiot would even consider letting it roam free), so the only option left is to respond with karmic retribution. Third City Veils may be a god, but what is a god to a God-Eater? At the same time, there is nothing more humiliating to a god than being rendered helpless and bound for all eternity. Seekers may appreciate these options the most.
4. For Surface Veils [my guess]: If you sincerely want to be "friends" with Veils and are not simply using it as an excuse to get around Wines's promise, this is likely the option for you. You probably did Veils and the rest of the Masters a favor by purging it of its most volatile aspects, and Veils will finally start acting like a "proper" Master of trade and stratagems for once. Nobody can truly win the Great Game, but by sparing Surface Veils, one would be securing a mutually-beneficial alliance that will let you influence both the Surface and the Neath through its vast network of intelligence and spies. A Master has willingly acknowledged you as its equal, and the Great Game continues in your advantage. Very appealing for players of the Great Game, Master shills, and opponents against the Liberation.
-- The Thirteenth Master of the Bazaar: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Thirteenth%20Master%20of%20the%20Bazaar The Silent Vake Hunter: GONE NORTH The Ravenous Wanderer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Ravenous%20Wanderer The Melancholic End-Bringer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Melancholic%20End-Bringer The Lethal Nightmare: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Lethal%20Nightmare
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 Aro Saren Posts: 124
3/21/2020
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What happens if you fail Mithridacy test at Medusa's Head?
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Andre%20Alexin Will accept only something interesting.
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 Jon Posts: 5
3/21/2020
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Aro Saren wrote:
What happens if you fail Mithridacy test at Medusa's Head?
You lose some of your Bragging Rights, looks like the same amount you would lose if you succeeded but I can’t confirm, no other consequences
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 Jon Posts: 5
3/21/2020
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When I preformed a Queen’s Mate on the Surface Vake, the text described the Empress’ Shadow being well aligned with revolutionaries (echo- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/TheRaggedMan/17976429)
Did anyone get different text than that? I’m curious if my previous actions in the Empress’ Shadow ES influenced the text of killing the Vake
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 Aro Saren Posts: 124
3/21/2020
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Reading your echoed story: she's aligned with the Great Game, in which revolutionaries also play part, and opposes Masters and Bazaar. At that point ineterests of several factions align, but these factions are not allies. Enemy of my enemy is an enemy of my enemy, no more, no less.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Andre%20Alexin Will accept only something interesting.
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 The Curious Watcher Posts: 263
3/21/2020
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Jon wrote:
When I preformed a Queen’s Mate on the Surface Vake, the text described the Empress’ Shadow being well aligned with revolutionaries (echo- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/TheRaggedMan/17976429)
Did anyone get different text than that? I’m curious if my previous actions in the Empress’ Shadow ES influenced the text of killing the Vake
The text seems to vary depending on if you played the Empress's Shadow story, since someone else got a slightly different result.
-- The Thirteenth Master of the Bazaar: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Thirteenth%20Master%20of%20the%20Bazaar The Silent Vake Hunter: GONE NORTH The Ravenous Wanderer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Ravenous%20Wanderer The Melancholic End-Bringer: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Melancholic%20End-Bringer The Lethal Nightmare: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/The%20Lethal%20Nightmare
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 Aro Saren Posts: 124
3/22/2020
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It was mentioned there's some sort of challenge at convent during the epilogue. What stat is used?
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Andre%20Alexin Will accept only something interesting.
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 silurica Posts: 210
3/22/2020
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Aro Saren wrote:
It was mentioned there's some sort of challenge at convent during the epilogue. What stat is used? Not sure where you heard that from, but there is no stat check at all in the Convent epilogue.
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Meika Osborne, the Reckless Researcher
Leonard West, the Scarlet Informant
Chizuru Nishiooji, the Rueful Ex-Diplomat
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 Chwomp Posts: 13
3/22/2020
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The Curious Watcher wrote:
We have most of the endings, so let me use my real-life Mithridacy skills to convince people to pick "X" option:
You make extremely good points. I fear I made the wrong choice for my Monter-Hunter, letting Third City Veils live under a tree. I'm not sure what he did, but I'm not sure that's a harsh enough punishment for it. Do you think there any possibility to get a "rollback" on the choice?
-- Malvolus - The ruthless moster hunter, at your service. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Malvolus
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 ochrasy Posts: 169
3/22/2020
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I kidnapped the fake Veils at the Labyrinth of Tigers, but the "find the next step" storylet is still telling me to go there. am I missing something?
-- Ochrasy. Monster-Hunter. Dangerous and Watchful, favors the Constables. Robitaille. Persuasive and Shadowy, fond of the Devils. Herr Horst. Seeker of Revenge. Open to all social actions on all accounts. Preferably, send any MW-providing actions to Ochrasy.
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
3/22/2020
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ochrasy wrote:
I kidnapped the fake Veils at the Labyrinth of Tigers, but the "find the next step" storylet is still telling me to go there. am I missing something?
You should be good there.
-- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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 Azothi Posts: 586
3/22/2020
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Chwomp wrote:
The Curious Watcher wrote:
We have most of the endings, so let me use my real-life Mithridacy skills to convince people to pick "X" option:
You make extremely good points. I fear I made the wrong choice for my Monter-Hunter, letting Third City Veils live under a tree. I'm not sure what he did, but I'm not sure that's a harsh enough punishment for it. Do you think there any possibility to get a "rollback" on the choice? Not sure about that kind of "rollback", but if it's any consolation, you've been a big help to the rest of us trying to find all the endings.
-- Azoth I, the Emissary of Cardinals - A Paramount Presence (not currently accepting new Proteges) Away to where the Chain cannot bind us.
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 Jaina Posts: 239
3/22/2020
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Chwomp wrote:
The Curious Watcher wrote:
We have most of the endings, so let me use my real-life Mithridacy skills to convince people to pick "X" option:
You make extremely good points. I fear I made the wrong choice for my Monter-Hunter, letting Third City Veils live under a tree. I'm not sure what he did, but I'm not sure that's a harsh enough punishment for it. Do you think there any possibility to get a "rollback" on the choice? I think that's a very strong punishment for Veils. He always prided himself on his strength, his viciousness, and his power. He's not living under a tree in that ending, the tree is becoming part of him. He has to live in a world that is not real, constantly reminded that he is yours. He lost. He is powerless. He can rage all he wants but he can never escape, never change. He'll always have been bested by someone who he targeted.
-- Cair-Var, a power-hungry lover of Devils and Rubberies Hungry Ego, A morally upstanding citizen
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